Sialkot sector: Heavy Indian shelling, firing

[bennedose]

The Pak army is on an all out mission to upset Sharif's apple cart to return Pakistan to genuine democracy as also to build bridges with all its neighbours.

Ray sir - I would not believe this. There is not much difference between the ideology of the Pakistan army and Nawaz Sharif. Both need the support of extremist militant Islamic agencies such as the Jamaat ud dawa. That is why Hafeez Saeed has free rein.

I foresee Pakistan becoming a proper Islamic state with the majority of the Pakistani goverment leaders having ideological links with teh jamaaat ud dawa or similar Islamic extremist agencies.

For India this will not make much of a difference. There will be no "increase of hatred". They already hate India enough. What will happen is a gradual deterioration in relations with the US - as occurred with Iran. "Moderate", English speaking Pakistanis the "R.A.P.E." class will either migrate out or simply shut up and put up because Pakis become shivering cowards in front of Islamists who are promoting the values of wajib ul qatl (fit for being executed) and ziba (throat cutting) skills

I will be happy and satisfied to see Pakistan becoming an Islamic state full of hate for everyone.

 

[Ray]

Ray sir - I would not believe this. There is not much difference between the ideology of the Pakistan army and Nawaz Sharif. Both need the support of extremist militant Islamic agencies such as the Jamaat ud dawa. That is why Hafeez Saeed has free rein.

I foresee Pakistan becoming a proper Islamic state with the majority of the Pakistani goverment leaders having ideological links with teh jamaaat ud dawa or similar Islamic extremist agencies.

For India this will not make much of a difference. There will be no "increase of hatred". They already hate India enough. What will happen is a gradual deterioration in relations with the US - as occurred with Iran. "Moderate", English speaking Pakistanis the "R.A.P.E." class will either migrate out or simply shut up and put up because Pakis become shivering cowards in front of Islamists who are promoting the values of wajib ul qatl (fit for being executed) and ziba (throat cutting) skills

I will be happy and satisfied to see Pakistan becoming an Islamic state full of hate for everyone.

As I see it, Pakistan may claim to be an Islamic State or on the way to becoming one.

However, before they become anything they will be consumed by the hate the Sunnis have for Shias and vice versa.

You are right that Mullah men will rule the roost and the more enlightened are or have migrated to the countries beyond Pakistan.

Here is the contradiction of Pakistan.

 

[bennedose]

Pakis are frauds of the first order - but it would be a defeat for them to admit it - so they keep pretending seriousness. However they are so desperate for some sort of victory - and that victory is going to come to them when an Islamic government that they can be proud of comes. Pakistanis have no problem if terrorists rule the country - it's not about what others think of Pakistan - others have been laughing at them for decades now.

Pakis need to prove to themselves that their history is all correct and took place for good things to happen. That can occur only if there is such a rabidly hate -filled Islamic government in power that no one can look at Pakistan and not be accused of being anti Pakistani and therefore anti-Islam. Other Islamic countries - most of who are themselves frauds are afraid to point out Pakistan's laughable contradictions. But at least other Islamic nations don't take their "islamic state" business so seriously. Pakistan will take it very ve-ery seriously and will end up lecturing every country including the foremost of their four fathers - Saudi Arabia.

The Saudi need Pakistani manpower to fight their own silly anti-Shia battles - so they will treat Pakistan seriously in public, mollycoddle Pakistani leaders in public, but will be contemptuous of Pakistan in private as they usually are.

Indians need to be careful because we may die laughing at how seriously they take themselves and the fake news about Karachi skyscrapers, mag-lev trains, suparco satellites and leadership in the world of software that comes out of Pakistan. The same pretend seriousness can be seen in ISPR news and videos - the same pompously flatulent pride in fake achievements. Our policy should be to shell any Paki who comes within 5 km of the border, including Mani Shankar Aiyer and whatisname Vaidik.

 

[Ashutosh Lokhande]

she so hot

 

[Ray]

she so hot

I appreciate how courageously she can defend herself in an obscurantist regime and environment.

 

[venkat]

^^^ i hope she is not enacting a madam mata hari on behalf of ISI !!!!!

 

[Adux]

Why havent the Indians killed anybody yet, I need to see some Pakistani Bodies. Bastards, had their mom's raped by Invaders and now believe in that invaders ideology, ----ing assholes with stockholm syndrome

RIP to our boy

 

[Rushil51]

This was expected. Now there will be response by Pak. And then a response by India. And then Pak. And then India. And then Pak. And then India. And then both will get struck in a never-ending vicious cycle of cease-fire violations. (We are currently struck in the Cycle)

 

[ladder]

BSF foils infiltration bid in Kashmir

BSF foils infiltration bid in Kashmir | Business Standard News

 

[Kunal Biswas]

In such an environment, Its important to arm BSF to teeth, Its also unfortunate the shelling was with only with 81mm Motars which is called heavy ..

 

[W.G.Ewald]

In such an environment, Its important to arm BSF to teeth, Its also unfortunate the shelling was with only with 81mm Motars which is called heavy ..

Maybe BSF could get hold of a few of these?

M116 howitzer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[ladder]

BSF foils infiltration bid in Kashmir | Business Standard News

Body of guerrilla found in Jammu and Kashmir

Body of guerrilla found in Jammu and Kashmir

 

[bhramos]

Maybe BSF could get hold of a few of these?

M116 howitzer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

i think IA is getting some of those...... they might be be heavy weapons for BSF!

 

[ladder]

Maybe BSF could get hold of a few of these?

M116 howitzer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

BSF has 300 of LFG 105mm Light Field Gun in it's 20 artillery regiments.

http://news.in.msn.com/national/bsf-to-upgrade-firing-systems-seeks-rs-100-cr-budget

 

[ladder]

i think IA is getting some of those...... they might be be heavy weapons for BSF!

BSF/IA is getting none of those.

 

[bhramos]

BSF/IA is getting none of those.

oops sorry my mistake...
confused with M-777, Which IA getting soon..

 

[ladder]

'Unprovoked firing': 75 border violations in three years – The Express Tribune

Pak Violated Ceasefire 19 Times Since Modi Took Over - The New Indian Express

 

[Kunal Biswas]

BSF has 105mm guns which are good but lack numbers, BSF was also suppose to get SPGH both wheel and track of same 105mm gun which is pending ..

Also Aviation fleet require specialized Gunship like Rudras and UAV squadrons for enhanced surveillance ..

Maybe BSF could get hold of a few of these?

M116 howitzer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

BSF has 300 of LFG 105mm Light Field Gun in it's 20 artillery regiments.

BSF to upgrade firing systems, seeks Rs 100 cr budget

 

[Yusuf]

It is not a joke, but it is true that the Pak Army gives covering fire to include shelling to cover infiltration.

It is a conventional war military tactics.

It is basically aimed at distraction as also keeping the defenders 'heads down'.

The Pak army is on an all out mission to upset Sharif's apple cart to return Pakistan to genuine democracy as also to build bridges with all its neighbours.

No parade, provoke tension on the border and LC, make half hearted attempts to quell NWFP brigands who are destabilising Pakistan. Half hearted because they are ISI and Pak Army's strategic assets.

Respectfully Disagree. When it comes to India they are all the same.

Pak army calls the shots & rest too bear the same goals vis a vis India. Civilian gvt is only a face for the world

 

[W.G.Ewald]

BSF/IA is getting none of those [M116 Howitzer].

Probably too old and ammunition hard to obtain.