Should Pakistan be suspended to save world cricket?

Discussion in 'Members Corner' started by johnee, Aug 30, 2010.

?

whether pakistan should be suspended to save cricket

Poll closed Sep 9, 2010.
  1. Yes

    78.3%
  2. No

    21.7%
  1. johnee

    johnee Elite Member Elite Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2009
    Messages:
    3,474
    Likes Received:
    467
    We see yet another controversy in Pakistan cricket. Pakistan cricket and controversy go hand in hand but this time the controversy is not limited to Pakistan team or Pakistan cricket. This issue impacts world cricket. Some of prominent pakistani players are being probed by scotland yard over spot-fixing allegations. An english tabloid conducted a sting operation and exposed how pakistani players were bowling no-balls in a test match after taking money from a fixer. The fixer allegedly boasted that he had upto 7 pakistani cricketers in his pocket and the ringleader was none other than the new caption Salman Butt.

    The fixer was taken under custody by Scotland yard and under the custody he sung like a canary revealing many dirty secrets of Pakistani cricket. He revealed that this was not a sudden or random phenomenon. Infact, this was the routine of Pakistani cricket. The fixer Mazhar Majeed revealed that not only were the Pakistani cricketers involved in spot fixing but also in match fixing. He told Scotland Yard that Sydney Test in this year's janaury was fixed. And the syndicate were making huge amounts of profit thanks to the Pakistani cricketers. He puts the number at 830000 pounds in just one test.

    But all this does not come as a surprise to any follower of Pakistani cricket. There were strong rumors that Sydney match was fixed. The pakistani players themselves were making these charges against their colleagues. PCB even conducted some enquiry but gave their cricketers a clean chit. PCB's callous attitude is not limited to this one occasion. Mohd Asif, pakistani fast bowler, was caught in a drug scandal and was detained in Dubai. After many backdoor negotiations he was allowed to return to his country. Such tainted individuals were brought back into the team by the PCB. It is little surprise that Mohd Asif is also involved in the present fixing allegations. He had delivered a huge no-ball at the exact point of match which the fixer had identified one night before. One may wonder how someone like Mohd Asif who has just escaped prison can again commit another serious offence in such short time in such a brazen manner. Perhaps, because Pakistani cricketers have a feeling that they are immune. They have seen how punishments handed out by PCB in the past were reversed with in a very short span of time. So, they have become very casual with it. They perhaps believe that PCB will wink and nod as long as they are not caught. And if they are ever caught, then they will be given some kinds of strict punishment to pacify the public sentiment. And as some time passes, they will brought back to a hero's welcome.

    PCB's consistent soft stand with its player has allowed them to ruin not just Pakistan cricket but cricket on a whole. The entire game of cricket is under disrepute. But why has the ICC and other boards tolerated this non-sense? Simple, Pakistan is too big to fail as far as cricket is concerned. Cricket is played by a limited number of nations. Even in those nations where the cricket is played, the audience is not always passionate. Sub-continent has come be the home of cricket for sometime now. After India, Pakistan is the country with largest number of cricket fans. BCCI the most powerful board in Cricketing world also needs the votes of PCB. Therefore, BCCI has protected PCB. So, cricketing community has given a very long rope to Pakistan cricket inspite of knowledge about Pakistan's dirty games. But now a nadir has been reached. The audience is losing their faith in the game. The followers of the sports do not know anymore whether the century scored by a batsman was due to his talent or due to the opposing team's games. Every ball and every run is under suspect. The guardians of the cricket have to take extra-ordinary measures in these times to restore the audience trust in the game. Otherwise the cricket is sure to be dead sooner than later.

    Pakistan cricket has been in news a lot recently. It has been in news for the retiring of its players and their subsequent return from the retirement. It has been in the news for ball-biting by Shahid Afridi. It has been the news for Kamran Akmal's dropped catches which have been cofirmed to be part of match-fixing by the fixer Majeed. But never has any serious action taken against any culprits because the board of cricket in Pakistan is also hand in glove. Thus, the best thing for the world cricket would be to suspend Pakistan for 3 or more years to send a strong message to everyone concerned. Cricket has to take serious steps against match-fixing, spot-fixing, and even ball tampering. Yes, ball tampering is another serious offence that the Pakistan team routinely indulges in according to the fixer. Shahid Afridi may prefer biting off the ball. But according to fixer, the modus operandi of the team is not that. The fixer Majeed says that he often brought drinks to the players on the field and during this time, he would rub lots of vaseline to his hand. Then he would shake hands with the pakistani bowlers transfering the vaseline to their hands. Then the Pakistani bowlers would non-chalantly apply the vaseline on the ball making it swing immediately. Using this trick, he says, the pakistan team has gotten out of may difficult situations on the field.

    So, suspend Pakistan from playing cricket at international level and hand out lifebans to the players who are caught to cleanse cricket. There is already a precedent. South Africa was not allowed to play cricket as it practiced apartheid. If a country can be stopped from playing cricket for non-cricketing reasons, then surely a country can be stopped from playing cricket for cricketing reasons.

    Give your opinions.
     
    Last edited: Aug 30, 2010
  2.  
  3. nitesh

    nitesh Mob Control Manager Stars and Ambassadors

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2009
    Messages:
    7,541
    Likes Received:
    1,260
    Location:
    Bangalore
    What cricket? One thing people need to understand is:

    Give peace a chance............. destroy Pakistan.
     
  4. thakur_ritesh

    thakur_ritesh Administrator Administrator

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2009
    Messages:
    4,434
    Likes Received:
    1,719
    Location:
    Land of the GODS - "Dev Bhomi".
    you might want to add a poll ..................
     
  5. johnee

    johnee Elite Member Elite Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2009
    Messages:
    3,474
    Likes Received:
    467
    Pehle cricket baad mein peace... :). Nitesh can you add a poll asking people whether pakistan should be suspended to save cricket with options yes or no.
     
  6. pankaj nema

    pankaj nema Senior Member Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2009
    Messages:
    3,454
    Likes Received:
    1,410
    Yes it looks like this time pakistan will not escape easily. The international matches of last two years are now going to be reopened for investigation Something will happen suspension for a while
     
  7. johnee

    johnee Elite Member Elite Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2009
    Messages:
    3,474
    Likes Received:
    467
    So quick reaction?! Has anybody even read what I wrote...? :(
     
  8. Indianrabbit

    Indianrabbit Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2009
    Messages:
    479
    Likes Received:
    20
    LOL, well Pakistani's are not that bad but, I feel there problem is conspiracy theories are so rampant in Pakistan that they have lost a sense of what is real and what is fake.
     
  9. pankaj nema

    pankaj nema Senior Member Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2009
    Messages:
    3,454
    Likes Received:
    1,410
    The cricket lovers know BY HEART what the pakistanis have been doing for several years now
    Well pakistani cricketing sins' matka is now full.

    In hindi we say paap ka ghada bhar gaya.
     
  10. satyam

    satyam New Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2010
    Messages:
    140
    Likes Received:
    14
  11. deepak75

    deepak75 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2010
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    0
    There is a better use for the opportunity rather than banning them.

    Pakistanis bring up about one such incident every year and get examples made. It is better for the class to have the jester because more people do not learn from their own mistakes but from that of others. The Jester gives the class this opportunity.....

    Let the Pakistanis commit these mistakes that they have made their destiny and at least the world can learn from them by being reminded regularly of the ills that could beget them if they go down the Pakistani road.....
     
  12. Solid Beast

    Solid Beast New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2010
    Messages:
    405
    Likes Received:
    63
    We need to solve our corruption and security problems (never happening) and put cricket aside from now, so that we can appoint the right people and hold these thieves up to the world as a sacrifice. Later we might be able to hold accountable the people who created, and still aid extremist groups today like Afghan Taliban as well as TTP with links to Al Qaeda. Doesn't anyone remember Daniel Pearl? Al Qaeda got him and then our cops reluctantly took out their asset. Our terror breeding and cricket corruption sort of do go hand in hand. It's visibly there but no one has the courage to speak about it. Though when the heavies come rolling in they sing like canaries. Send in the heavies.
     
  13. Solid Beast

    Solid Beast New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2010
    Messages:
    405
    Likes Received:
    63
    And by the look and speech of some our players no doubt some of this huge theft loot is finding its way into extremist militant organizations. How much blood is on who's hands, only a made up "God" knows. If they fix matches, do they fix terrorist operations too? Perhaps they had prior knowledge. Strip these fools naked and beat the truth out of them with a cricket bat. The whole team including the captain.
     
  14. ajtr

    ajtr Veteran Member Veteran Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2009
    Messages:
    12,038
    Likes Received:
    715
    Simple answer is No.Why punish country of 170 million people just for the mistakes of few.Its like saying ban india from all world bodies for CWG corruption
     
  15. johnee

    johnee Elite Member Elite Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2009
    Messages:
    3,474
    Likes Received:
    467
    SB: very valid angle.

    meanwhile...

    Cricket meets its match: history of fixing the product of a corrupt society

     
  16. pankaj nema

    pankaj nema Senior Member Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2009
    Messages:
    3,454
    Likes Received:
    1,410
    It looks that Pakistani people are also very angry this time. There was a report that In London, British- pakistanis pelted tomatoes on the players.

    If ICC is forced to take a harsh step like suspension ,then the current players will definitely get a "SPANKING"
    from the people back home
     
  17. Solid Beast

    Solid Beast New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2010
    Messages:
    405
    Likes Received:
    63
    No one should be above the law. Regardless of valid international repercussions and consequences. Frankly this amount of money is more than what a cricketer living and eating in Pakistan needs. A few thousand dollars is enough for them to live like Lt. Generals. full with security service and fleet of cars yet they are making much much more. For sure terrorism could also be benefiting here.
     
  18. Yusuf

    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2009
    Messages:
    24,274
    Likes Received:
    11,290
    Location:
    BANGalore
  19. deepak75

    deepak75 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2010
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    0
    Anger is always their first reaction.
    Second will be abdication of blame on the easiest goat available = Probably the Pakistan Government or the President or the team Janitor.
    Third will be conspiratorial thinking = Pakistanis cannot do this. This has to be an Indian conspiracy for some reason.
    Fourth, there will be a demand for a revolution and they will ask Kiyani's son (or something similar) to start playing for Pakistan because he can be the only honest man in Pakistan.....
    And lastly, once the feeling has sunk it, they will say, "so what, even the Indians do it in IPL" or some other way of justifying what happended and its acceptability.

    This has been sixty something years of evolution so I think by now, should be quite predictable.
     
  20. johnee

    johnee Elite Member Elite Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2009
    Messages:
    3,474
    Likes Received:
    467
    SB, you are right.

    One of the famous cases is Javed Miandad. He is a relative of Dawood Ibrahim.
    If someone is not aware of Dawood Ibrahim. Heres some info from wiki:
     
  21. johnee

    johnee Elite Member Elite Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2009
    Messages:
    3,474
    Likes Received:
    467
    It seems like D-company is also involved in this case. This means the rot does not end with just few players. It must be touching to the top of the hierarchy.

    Mumbai bookies in Rs 1,500-cr fix

     

Share This Page