Shia Genocide in PoK, should India act ?

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  1. Singh

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    Larger picture of Shia genocide in Gilgit Baltistan
    Addressing the first joint session of the Gilgit-Baltistan Council and Legislative Assembly on September 28, Prime Minister Raja Pervaiz Ashraf announced Rs2 billion in socio-economic development funds “to grapple with the wave of deadly sectarian violence that has gripped the restive tourism haven”. He was clearly shaken by the recent massacre of Shia passengers travelling in a bus on the Karakoram Highway (KKH). He said that the FC, Gilgit-Baltistan Scouts and police units had been deployed on the KKH for the protection of passengers and the Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa government had been asked “to ensure secure journey of passengers”.

    Gilgit-Baltistan is another ‘far-flung’ but strategically important region, where the writ of the state has been leeched away since the Afghan war against the Soviet occupation started under the tutelage of General Ziaul Haq. The KKH had been built by the Zulfikar Ali Bhutto government, which India saw as a chessboard move challenging its presence in Kashmir. General Zia, however, soon discovered that the real threat was not from India, but from his new policy of using proxies against the Soviets in Afghanistan. Two developments took place that had enduring effects for the coming decades. The jihad was dominated by the mujahideen funded by America and Saudi Arabia, which meant that General Zia had a stormy relationship with Iran. Shias were targeted by mujahideen “because they were reluctant to help in fighting the jihad against the Soviet occupation”. Shias of Kurram Agency were attacked by mujahideen, followed by the incursion of a Sunni Lashkar into the region in 1988, in order to sort out the majority Shia-Ismaili population of the region. Decades later, the punishment meted out to Shias has reached new depths. This time, it is happening in the shape of the death of the writ of the state in areas such as Kurram Agency, Gilgit-Baltistan and Quetta, whereHazara Shias are being systematically exterminated.

    The then-commissioner of Gilgit has been immortalised in history for writing what really happened in 1988. He stated: “It was clear to the Gilgit civil administration that the raiders, who were tribals and mujahideen elements, could not have reached this remote place from Peshawar without someone’s blessing. The FC, whose check posts dot the Swat-Besham road and the Besham-Gilgit highway, did not act to intercept the raiders. The true significance of the Gilgit riot has never been highlighted by our media.” In 2012, the Taliban, fighting another war in Afghanistan under the tutelage of al Qaeda, are using Gilgit-Baltistan as their hinterland, which has to be religiously cleansed.

    A professor travelling in the ill-fated bus on August 16 that was gunned down, stated that in the Babusar bus carnage, four Sunnis were killed by terrorists as they came forward to save their Shia brethren. As another proof that the region was never divided along sectarian lines, he added that “terrorists beat up the Sunni passengers for not being supportive in identifying the Shia passengers”.

    Gilgit-Baltistan was roughed up again during the Kargil operation when external non-state actors were allowed to penetrate the region — all of them either Deobandi or Ahle Hadith, poisoned against the Shia majority of the region and supported by the military commander there, who was conducting the infiltration into the high mountains against the Indian presence.

    No one cared that the region was more important for the national economy than for military strategy against India: the Bhasha Dam, which was to be an alternative to the Kalabagh Dam; and the gas pipeline coming from Iran was also planned for passage to China through the region. Pakistan was defeated in the Kargil operation and the economic transformation projected through the construction of the Bhasha Dam and the gas pipeline are now in abeyance till the Taliban are finally defeated by the army. The Rs2 billion package offered by the PM is welcome, but the larger picture in Gilgit-Baltistan is gloomy because of Pakistan’s isolationist foreign policy that some would say tends to favour the Taliban-al Qaeda combine.

    http://tribune.com.pk/story/444392/for-peace-in-gilgit-baltistan/
     
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  3. Daredevil

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    If India still consider's PoK as an Indian territory, then it should act accordingly. India should equip the Shia's of PoK who are the natives to fight against the Pakistani and Pak punjabi oppression. Otherwise, India should kiss good bye to that part of the country.
     
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    the question should be can India even think of acting so?

    One should have guts.

    Which you know very well that India has or not
     
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    farhan_9909 Tihar Jail Banned

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    while i have been to gilgit exactly one month before and many more times

    i dont see the situation as such

    Pakistan is in civil war and no community is safe 100%
     
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    India has accepted it as "disputed" territory in UN. All the thanks to Nehru and USSR play ~ The "Instrument of accession" has become per se "ineffective" but a "legitimate" document over "dispute"! Internattional Laws can't do a damn to solve the J&K problem.

    only solutions are..
    1. Status Quo.
    2. War. -- civil or trans-boundary
     
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    1971 Liberation of Bangladesh.
     
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    blank_quest Senior Member Senior Member

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    @Farhaan
    Its very easy to say that you are going to use the Nuclear War against India , But I am assured that if at all an All Round War happen in Kashmir this time , may be GB will become a part of India. Lets get Annihilated or Annihilate Pakistan. ( I know India will still survive but Pakistan will not for sure)
     
  9. Bangalorean

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    Gilgit-Baltistan is very important for India's future ambitions. Let those deranged "Azaadi" types keep PoK with them - we don't want it. But we want a connection to central Asia. India needs to intervene in GB.
     
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    ^^ just to clarify, by PoK you mean only Mirpur region of PoK (because Gilgit Baltistan is also part of PoK)
     
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    Yeah, Mirpur - the area around Muzaffarabad region, where all those "Azadi" maniacs on the other side reside in huge numbers. We really don't need that part of Kashmir ever - let them keep it with them until the population gets detoxified, maybe decades later.
     
  12. Singh

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    I think its not a question of guts per se. Sometimes circumstances are right, sometimes humanitarian reasons hold sway, sometimes strategic reasons etc and very rarely do you carry out ops out of sheer boldness.

    Do we have a confluence of the various aspects ? I think so we have.
     
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    china may intervene however , as gilgit baltistan is from where china intends to connect to gwadar---and already china has a military presence there judging from reports .
     
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    Countering China is tough but not impossible~! India should sign a treaty with Dalai Lama to accept India as the care taker of sovereignty of Govt-of-Tibet in exile. This will weaken the claimed Chinese trend. there are many very ways. credence to two china theory and so on... Chinese just pretend to be powerful but there is an underlying fear in CCP. I can bet China is far more disturbed than India is ..:namaste::taunt::taunt:
     
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    China's presence on Indian soil is legitemate causus belli. We can actually use this whole scenario to further highlight China's rise is anything but peaceful.
     
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    By guts you mean surrendering 1/3 or almost 100,000 of your troops before 25,000 enemy troops???

    :lol:
     
  17. Snuggy321

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    Only a complete fool would attack an nuclear armed country because of this! Even a destabilized Pak. with hundreds of nukes is a threat to our motherland and world peace
     

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