Russian Special Forces

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    The history of the Soviet/Russian special forces has, until the most recent events in Chechnya, run on two parallel tracks: one, the sword and shield of the leaders in the Kremlin, belonged to the Soviet and Russian security apparatus; the other, subordinate to the Ministry of Defence and tasked to attack NATO strategic objects, was formed much later

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    http://www.specialoperations.com/Foreign/Russia/Spetznaz.htm


    Spetsnaz


    During the 1970s, when the Cold War was at its height, the West became aware
    of the existence of Soviet Spetsnaz troops, which were grouped into what
    were known as "diversionary brigades." Today, although the Cold War is long
    since ended, Spetsnaz units are still part of the Russian order-of-battle,
    although their missions have changed.

    Spetsnaz (Spetsialnoye nazranie = troops of special purpose) were raised as
    the troops of the Glavnoe razvedyvatel'noe upravlenie (GRU) (= main
    intelligence directorate [of the General Staff]) and in the 1980s numbered
    some 30,000. These were deployed: one Spetsnaz company per Army; one
    Spetsnaz regiment in each of the three "theaters of operations"; one
    Spetsnaz brigade in each of the four Soviet Fleets; and an independent
    Spetsnaz brigade in most military districts of the USSR. There were also
    special Spetsnaz intelligence units, one to each Front and Fleet: total 20.

    A Spetsnaz company was 135 strong, normally operating in 15 independent
    teams, although they could also combine for specific missions. A Spetsnaz
    brigade was 1,000-1,300 strong and consisted of a headquarters, three or
    four parachute battalions, a communications company, and supporting troops.
    It also included an anti-VIP company, composed of some 70-80 regular troops
    (ie, not conscripts) whose mission was to seek out, identify and kill enemy
    political and military leaders. A naval Spetsnaz brigade had a headquarters,
    two to three battalions of combat swimmers, a parachute battalion,
    supporting units, and an anti-VIP company. It also had a group of midget
    submarines designed to deliver combat swimmers to distant targets.

    The existence of Spetsnaz was a closely guarded secret within the Warsaw
    Pact and individual troops were not allowed to admit membership, to the
    extent that army Spetsnaz wore standard airborne uniforms and insignia,
    while naval Spetsnaz wore naval infantry uniforms and insignia.

    Spetsnaz in 1999
    Some of the republics which broke away from the old Soviet Union took over
    the Spetsnaz units within their borders or have converted parachute units to
    the Spetsnaz role. Within the Russian Federation Spetsnaz units are less
    well trained and equipped, at a lower strength, and at a lesser degree of
    readiness than during the 1970s and 1980s. Despite that, they continue to
    exist, although their numbers are not known for certain.

    Naval Spetsnaz also continue to serve in the Northern, Baltic, Black Sea,
    and Pacific fleets. Most of these are subordinate to the Fleet commanders,
    but some are under the direct control of the Naval Commander-in-Chief in
    Moscow. Again, their manning levels are not known and it may be that, like
    other areas in the Russian armed forces, they are seriously under strength.

    Russian naval special-designation forces, or spetsnaz, have been less visible in the wake of the USSR's dissolution. Recently, however, the Russian navy's commander in chief, Admiral Vladimir Kuroyedov, reaffirmed that naval special-operations units – which have a long, active history in the Soviet armed forces – remain assigned to the Russian Baltic, northern, Pacific and Black Sea fleets. Although the admiral provided few specifics on the size and capabilities of the units, he did indicate that they were elite, that they were equipped with special weapons (including small submarines), and that they were comparable to U.S. Navy SEALS or the Israeli Navy's 13th Flotilla. Stating that these units have no special name beyond their "combat swimmer" or "naval spetsnaz" designations, the admiral indicated that most of the units are directly subordinate to their respective fleet commander. Of particular note, Kuroyedov said that he retains naval spetsnaz subunits under his direct control as well, "for resolving fleet tasks and rendering assistance.

    Missions
    Although Spetsnaz units may be used for other purposes during peacetime,
    their primary role is to carry out strategic missions during the final days
    prior to war breaking out and in war itself. These wartime tasks would
    include: deep reconnaissance of strategic targets; the destruction of
    strategically important command-control-and-communications (C3) facilities;
    the destruction of strategic weapons' delivery systems; demolition of
    important bridges and and transportation routes; and the snatching or
    assassination of important military and political leaders. Many of these
    missions would be carried out before the enemy could react and some even
    before war had actually broken out.

    Uniforms
    The Russian Federation now acknowledges the existence of Spetsnaz units and,
    as a result special badges and berets are now worn, identifying such troops.

    Weapons
    On operations the majority of Spetsnaz soldiers would carry a 5.45mm AKS-74
    rifle and a 5.45mm PRI automatic pistol. All would also carry combat knives,
    which are specially designed for Spetsnaz troops. One such design is the
    NR-2, an ingenious device which in addition to the blade incorporates a
    short 7.62mm caliber barrel in the handle and is fired by clipping the
    scabbard and knife together to give some control. Quite when such a weapon
    would be used instead of a knife or a pistol is open to question. Spetsnaz
    troops are also trained in all types of foreign weapons.

    Training
    Those joining Spetsnaz with no previous military experience must be given
    the normal recruit's basic training in discipline, marching, fieldcraft,
    weapons handling, and range work. Once the recruit moves on to proper
    Spetsnaz training, however, the pressure intensifies:

    * weapons handling, including the use of foreign weapons and marksmanship;
    * physical fitness, with an emphasis on endurance and strength;
    * tracking, patroling, camouflage, and surveillance techniques, including
    survival in a wide variety of harsh environments;
    * hand-to-hand combat, both unarmed and with knives (both hand-held and
    throwing), and assassination of designated targets;
    * sabotage and demolitions;
    * language training and prisoner interrogation;
    * infiltration by air, including parachuting for fixed-wing aircraft, and
    exit from helicopters by ropes or parachute.

    Naval Spetsnaz must, in addition, learn combat swimmer techniques, the use
    of underwater weapons, canoeing, arrival and exit over beaches, exit and
    entry to submerged submarines. (Note: this is not all Spetsnaz training,
    this is only to give the reader a better understanding of what Spetsnaz
    training is like)

    Other Spetsnaz Troops
    During the 1970s and 1980s special operations troops became increasingly the
    vogue in various ministries of the (then) Soviet Union. Further, such was
    the large and disorganized nature and wastefulness of the Soviet system that
    similar bodies with similar missions were set up by different parts of the
    same ministry, particularly within the Committee for State Security (KGB)
    and the Ministry of Internal Affairs (MVD). These special troops went under
    the generic title of Spetsgruppe and were paramilitary forces which received
    special training and indoctrination for a variery of missions. Many of these
    units served in a variety of roles in the war in Afghanistan but for most of
    them a defining moment seems to have been reached during the 1991 coup, when
    they were forced to take sides, or at least to refuse to take action. After
    the coup had been defeated President Yeltsin transfered most of them to his
    personal control but they have since been transfered yet again back to
    various ministries. Many of the groups have been involved in the recent
    conflicts in the Russian Federation, including Chech'nya.

    Spetsgruppa "Al'fa" (= special group A) was set up by the KGB's Seventh
    Directorate in 1974 and appears to have been inspired by the British SAS and
    US 1SFOD-D (Delta) as a c ounter-terrorist and hostage-rescue group. Al'fa
    is generally credited with being the unit that attacked the Presidential
    palace in Kabul, Afghanistan, on December 28 1980 and murdered President
    Hafizullah Amin and his family. Al'fa is now controlled by the FSB
    (Federal'naia sluzhba bezopasnosti = Federal Security Service) in general
    terms, equivalent to the USA's FBI. Current strength is estimated to be
    about 300, with the main group in Moscow and three smaller groups elsewhere
    in the federation.

    Also raised by the KGB, but this time the First Chief Administration, was
    Spetsgruppa Vympel whose mission was to fullfil the KGB's wartime role of
    assassination and snatching. After the collapse of the Soviet Union it was
    transferred to the MVD but is now with the FSB with a primary responsibility
    for a hostage rescue.

    The Ministry of Internal Affairs also has at least two groups of special
    troops known as the Omon (= black berets), which were originally raised to
    provide additional security and (if necessary) hostage rescue at the 1980
    Moscow Olympics. Since then they have been used for counter-terrorist
    activities and defeating armed criminals, and are currently involved in
    campaigns against drug cultivation.

    Symbolizing the disorganized nature of contemporary Russia is the GROM
    Security Company, which is a quasi-private organization working under
    exclusive contract to the Federal Government. GROM (thr Russian word for
    "thunder" and with no relationship to the Polish group of the same name) is
    manned by former troops of the various KGB special forces and provides
    security for selected government personnel and buildings, as well as for
    trains and aircrafts.

    Speznaz UIN is a group of special assignment, which submits UIN (management on performance of punishment, UIN submits to the ministry of justice) with tasks: suppression of the mass disorders and revolts in prisons, colonies, rescue of the hostages seized and deducted in prisons and colonies, barricades situation in these establishments, search and detention run made. The employees of speznaz UIN carry berets of black colour with general-army cockade and Russian flag on the left party of beret.

    information provided by John Keller
     
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    Looks overdressed & not very organised....
     
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    they are so well armed unlike our special forces
     
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    They are overdressed because of the climatic conditions and the heavy protective gear they are wearing. How come you came to the conclusion that they are not organized ? The Spetsnaz troopers are one of the best spec ops unit in the world who have seen extensive action in Korean war, Vietnam war, Afghanistan, Chechnya etc.
     
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    I said it looks they are overdressed & not very organised.. by saying not very organised i meant in terms of appearance & not skill or operation wise.. Btw I am also aware of the fact that the spetsnaz are one of the best special force's unit in the world... But i still maintain that they LOOK very clumsy... But i agree with you on the point that they look very well equipped...
     
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    Only a fool judges an army by its looks. Ask the Georgians about the effectiveness of the "clumsy, overdressed, unorganized" Russian Army.

    In contrast, the Saudi Army with all its fancy Western toys had great difficulty subduing a tribal militia, the Houthis.

    The simple fact is that the Russian Army is one of the most rugged armies in the world, capable of fighting effectively even in hellish conditions, as they have done throughout history going back to the age of Genghis Khan.
     
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    Please read my reply properly before commenting...
     
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    And what exactly was the point of your post? What were you trying to show by commenting on the Russians' appearance?

    Who cares how they look. All that matters is how they fight.
     
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    i wasn't trying to show anything... here we discuss everything right from the way they look to the way they fight... i just wish u would keep your mind open a little & not actually be such a fanatic...
     
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    i reckon the spetsnaz is the best special forces in the world in terms of training and they have proven themselves in combat like in Chechnya and other places . They russians also had some of the best snipers like vasily zaystev etc.

    India also some of the best special forces in the world like the special frontier force(SPP), they are regarded by many people as one of the best but they haven't proven themselves combat except for the 1971 Pakistani war.They are well equipped with the best technologies and guns in the world

    cool pics :)
     
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    Spetsnaz in Action:War in Dagestan

     
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