Did you guys notice that J-15 never underwent trials on a skiramp or on the deck but landed straight away on their aircraft Carrier.
I am not so sure that's true.
There are so many pictures of mock up ski ramps on land. I think the Chinese posters had posted pictures on this forum.
J-15 is same as SU-33. Who gave them this tech?
The Russians cancelled the Su-33 deal the minute J-15 took to the skies.
But China never has such problems. If you look at the chinese weapon Industry prior to 1995 and after that you will find that they suddenly got a strong momentum in R&D. Who provided that momentum?
I don't believe that is true. While we were license building aircraft, they already had a full fledged R&D program for aircraft. They even modified or developed new turbojet engines in the past.
It is simple, we started actual work on aircraft after the 80s, mainly in the 90s, they started in the 70s. Hence they are reaping the benefits of their research today, while we will see the same in a few years from now, when the LCA Mk2 is inducted. I have no problems saying the Chinese R&D industry is ahead of India's. This is no different from what both DRDO and ISRO have said when compared to China.
The Chinese R&D industry is vast and they have money. They have multiple teams working on one requirement.
The Chinese AVIC recently purchased an American engine company which designed the engine for which a variant was used in the Merkava tank.
The Americans and the Israelis were the ones who pushed them forward, the Russians only sold license production capability. Lockheed Martin was involved in the J-10 project, so was IAI. JF-17 saw Lockheed Martin involvement until they withdrew in 1989, which was in turn resurrected with Pakistani interest.
It was really with American and Israeli help that the Chinese R&D capability actually took off.
While the Americans were helping the Chinese, with both aircraft design and engine technology, they were helping the Japanese and South Koreans make their own fighters. I don't see the Japanese saying the same about the Americans.
Russia has been doing it for a long long time and we Indians are fools to have trusted russians.
I don't get your point. You have a blind hatred towards Russia. Other countries are no different. Chinese ships use French and Ukranian engines.
It also works the other way round. It was China which resurrected and paid for the Su-30MKK. Flankers had this nasty drop in G when flying between mach 0.7 - 0.9. The Su-30MKK saw FBW changes that negated this anomaly. The MKIs benefited from this.
Now that China is paying for Amur submarines, whatever new developments are made over the years using Chinese money can be applied to Indian Amurs, in case we go for these for the P-75I.
Before India even thought of Phalcons AWACS, it was the Chinese who were offered the A-50 with Phalcons by both the Russians and the Israelis. After the Americans stopped the sale, only the IL-76 platforms were sold to China which later became the basis for the KJ-2000 with a Chinese made AESA which was derived from the radar on Type 052C destroyer. Whatever R&D Israel and Russia had worked on for the Phalcons with the Chinese was later transferred to India.
So, you see it has been of mutual benefit for both sides. We had the advantage in some cases and they had the same in some.
I will be least surprised if we suddenly find that PLAAF AAMs supplied to PAF are actually same as our missiles. Russians have made a great game of selling tech to china developed from Indian JV money and weapons to us at our expense. We must dump these bloody russians asap.
Agat supplied older seekers for both Astra and the Chinese PL-12.
If we dump the Russians, then more than half our military will stop functioning.
France and Israel cannot really help us in many projects.
If we turn to the US, we will become their bitch, like half the world already is.
