Prince William has Indian heritage, DNA proves

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    This is sooo going to hurt the racist lot in Brits today. Brown Sahibs they call our elite here. So their future king qualifies to be one as well!!
     
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    Prince William will become Britain's first king to have proven Indian roots, after saliva samples revealed direct lineage to the Commonwealth's most populous nation.

    DNA from the second-in-line to the throne's sample was linked to that of a woman now known to have been at least half-Indian, according to researchers at the University of Edinburgh, the Times reported on Friday.

    It had previously been assumed that Eliza Kewark, the duke's great-great-great-great-great grandmother, was Armenian.

    But DNA passed down the female line revealed she was at least half-Indian, the Times reported.

    University of Edinburgh genetics expert Jim Wilson, who carried out the tests, said the proof of William's Indian roots was "unassailable".

    William and his wife the Duchess of Cambridge, who are expecting their first child in July, are yet to visit India.

    Prince William 'has Indian genes'
     
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    Appointed a Woman of the Bedchamber to Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother in 1956, Ruth functioned in a world where breeding and good behavior were all-important. While she could adopt the latter, there was no way she could invent the former. Her family was neither grand nor impressive. In fact, the only thing that put them beyond the ordinary was the secret they kept hidden. This was that her great-great grandmother Eliza Kewark was a dark-skinned native of Bombay who had lived, without benefit of matrimony, with her great-great-grandfather Theodore Forbes while he worked for the East India Company. Unsavory as the taint of illegitimacy was, even at that distance in time, it was nothing compared with the stigma of what was then known as "colored blood." Had it been generally known that Ruth and her children were part-Indian, they might never have made good marriages. Eliza's true race was therefore expunged from the family tree and she reemerged as an Armenian. This fiction was maintained even when Diana married the Prince of Wales.

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    So, he is basically an Anglo Indian!

    There were many English notables and not so notables who officially married Indian women and also had concubines.

    It was Lord Wellesley, as Governor General, who brought in the racist streak and infused into the white society to look down on Indian wives and matrimony with Indian women. Many Indian wives were also from the royalty, mostly of the Muslim royalty.

    It was in these times that the term' lady wives' came into being, meaning white wives and not Indian bibis and it was only lady wives who were entitled to join the social circles, be it at the Club or in official functions and soirees.
     
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    His Rajesty: DNA tests show Prince William is part Indian

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    PRINCE William will be Britain's first king with Indian ancestors, new genetic tests have revealed.

    DNA analysis has helped researchers prove the Duke of Cambridge's great-great-great-great-great-grandmother Eliza Kerwark was half-Indian.

    Eliza - who is an ancestor of Wills and Harry's mother Princess Diana - was always believed to have come from Armenia.

    However, new tests on saliva samples given by other descendants, including Diana's aunt, show Eliza was at least half-Indian.

    The discovery looks set to give William - second in line to the throne and the future head of the Commonwealth — a popularity boost among India's 1.1 billion people.

    He has not yet visited the country, but his parents Charles and Diana toured in 1992 — when Di was famously pictured sitting alone in front of the Taj Mahal as their marriage was breaking down.

    William and his wife Kate will be encouraged to make an official visit to India after the birth of their first child next month, according to reports.

    Researchers have previously traced Diana's family line back six generations to Eliza Kework, who was born in western India in around 1790 and is believed to have married Scottish merchant Theodore Forbes in 1812.

    Eliza's father was an Armenian trader, but there is no record of her mother. Now the genetic analysis shows she must have been Indian.

    Edinburgh University genetics expert Jim Wilson, who carried out the tests on Wills's relatives, said among Eliza's DNA was a very rare type of mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) which is only inherited from mothers.

    He said that particular genetic code has been found in only 14 other people before — 13 Indian and one Nepalese.

    Inter-racial affairs were common at the time — but researchers say snobbery could explain why Theodore abandoned Eliza and sent their young daughter Katherine back to Britain.

    Katherine, known as Kitty, went on to marry in Scotland and her great-great-granddaughter was Frances Burke Roche, who married the 8th Earl Spencer and had five children including Diana Spencer.

    Diana's aunt Mary Roach, one of those who provided DNA, said: "I always assumed that I was part-Armenian so I am delighted that I also have an Indian background."

    Dr Wilson said Princes William and Harry would both have inherited Eliza's distinctive mtDNA code but would not pass it to their children.

    However they will inherit other genetic material from her. Their distant cousins who were tested have between 0.3 and 0.8 per cent South Asian DNA.

    Source: His Rajesty: DNA tests show Prince William is part Indian | The Sun |News|Royals
     
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    Re: His Rajesty: DNA tests show Prince William is part Indian

    That is what happen when you over spend your time in others country.
     
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    Let's quantify . . .

    DNA tests estimate that Prince William is 0.3 to 0.8 percent Indian

    Source: DNA tests estimate that Prince William is 0.3 to 0.8 percent Indian
     
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    Welcome to the Brown club Mr. 0.5 %
     
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    We gave them more than an empire. We gave them a future king

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    London, June 14: Prince William will be Britain’s first king to have proven Indian ancestry, DNA analysis has revealed.

    Tests on saliva samples taken from the relatives of William (the Duke of Cambridge) have established a direct lineage between the second in line to the throne and a woman now known to have been at least half-Indian.

    The discovery means that the Duke will become the first Head of the Commonwealth with a clear genetic link to its most populous nation. It is his only non-European DNA.

    William has yet to visit India but will be encouraged to make an official tour after the birth of his first child next month.

    William’s parents visited India in 1992 but a photograph of Diana, Princess of Wales, sitting alone in front of the Taj Mahal came to symbolise the disintegration of their marriage.

    Now researchers have uncovered the details of the similarly doomed relationship of the Duke’s Indian great-great-great-great-great grandmother.

    It has long been known that Eliza Kewark lived in western India but she is usually described as Armenian. However, analysis of DNA passed down the female line confirms that she was at least half-Indian.

    The revelation explains why the Scottish father of her children suddenly deserted her and sent their daughter, Katherine, to Britain at the age of 6. Researchers have discovered letters from Eliza to her children’s father, Theodore Forbes, pleading for her to be allowed to see him.

    When Theodore died on a ship back to Britain in 1820 his will referred to Eliza as his “housekeeper” and the mother of her “purported daughter” Katherine.

    The revelation means that a woman who appears to have been shunned by colonial society because of her race is an ancestor of the future king.

    Jim Wilson, a genetics expert at the University of Edinburgh and BritainsDNA, who carried out the tests, said that Eliza’s descendants had an incredibly rare type of mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA), inherited only from a mother. It has so far been recorded in only 14 other people, 13 Indian and one Nepalese. This DNA will have been inherited by the Duke and Prince Harry but will not be passed on to their children, although it is likely that their descendants will have some of Eliza’s Asian genetic material.

    Wilson, a senior lecturer in population and disease genetics, said that results of the mtDNA combined with the findings of South Asian DNA in the rest of the genome meant that the evidence of the Duke’s Indian heritage was “unassailable”.

    The news delighted Mary Roach, Princess Diana’s maternal aunt, who provided a DNA sample for the experiment. “I always assumed that I was part-Armenian so I am delighted that I also have an Indian background,” Roach said.

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    Terms like Indian DNA, English DNA don't mean anything. Indian and English are cultural/legal terms. Nationalistic terms when used for DNA, are used only to indicate geographical placements and to provide a historical context of the spread of DNA. If we go by 'DNA heritage' than everyone is related to everyone else.
     
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    The only way the lineage of "Prince Whatever" qualifies for a news IMO is that

    A) Does not belong to his Royal Family
    B) Belongs to Martians..

    C'mon, his blood has 0.3 % Indian cells, I bet 100% of humans have higher percentage of African dna in them. Now I dont see that making a news, neither does the whole world look like ancient africans.
     
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    Actually, I think if we talk about DNA, we include all kinds of DNA. Here, the link is only with Mitochondrial DNA. Your calculation however is right, if applied to only Mitochondrial DNA.
     
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    Mitochondrial DNA will still be passed on to his progeny. I still do not get the math
    Even if it is mitochondrial DNA?
     
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    I am also not sure what the math should be.

    Your calculations are correct if the only DNA we had were Mitochondrial DNA. We do have other kinds as well, so it would be less than 3%.
     
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