So sweet.I have only one question.
When you can't have an aircraft as per the ASQR, what is the next thing one should do?
Be adamant lest someone accuses you and twiddle the thumbs or look for the next best even if that means lowering the ASQR requirement?
What is good? No aircraft or some aircraft?
I have only one question.
When you can't have an aircraft as per the ASQR, what is the next thing one should do?
Be adamant lest someone accuses you and twiddle the thumbs or look for the next best even if that means lowering the ASQR requirement?
What is good? No aircraft or some aircraft?
You 'Fanboys' have been critical of HAL and DRDO, wait until you go out to procure the spare parts for Pilatus. The latter got them at good price and fitted them into the trainer aircraft. Now when you have to buy them directly from the original supplier directly, it will be thrice the price and unusual amount of delays and in addition at times withholding of export licenses. US is very good at it. A few of the sub system in the PIlatus are of US origin.
In short the IAF in its enthusiasm has been tricked. They did not examine the service agreement with fine tooth comb. It says the PILATUS will help you procure replacement parts but not get them for you. Their involvement is limited to let you know the part number and supplier.
What an irony?
Soon IAF will be knocking at HAL and DRDO doors for the HTT -40. Otherwise the blame game begins when parts supply runs short. At that time they will blame the Defence Ministry''s procurement buraucrcy for delays.
Why ask me?@Ray, the issue of Pilatus purchase strikes at the very core of decision making in IAF; and questions the fundamental lack of ability of the generals (or MOD).
I have asked you point blank (and rather rudely to drive home the point), as to HOW requirements for HTT40 were formulated. Why specs of Super-Tucano are needed for HTT-40?? Why rooky pilots must be trained in a light fighter??
HTT-40 is more expensive compared to Pilatus PC-7 as HTT-40 is supposed to have higher specs. The two planes are NOT COMPARABLE.
Yes. If I may add, let ADA/NAL/HAL build a few prototypes, and let the design be handed over to any domestic manufacturer, and let them build the production models. The initial order should be given to two or three companies, and depending upon the quality of the delivered products, the subsequent orders can be skewed in favour of the better manufacturer, so that the other one is not left high and dry, and is given an opportunity to improve.basic trainers is always going to be long term demand
for military - IAF and even for civil purpose
so why not ask TATA MAHINDRA etc to either work independently or jointly with ADA / NAL and come up with a designs
( new designs not JV with pilatus etc ) let HAL also independently work on thier own version
and then let them bid for the contract
Then let the General who formulated HTT40 specs stand in front of TV cameras in parliament and defend his decision.Why ask me?
Point blank I will say - you are the expert who knows more about all this than any of us.
Indeed you are ILLOGICAL.Then let the General who formulated HTT40 specs stand in front of TV cameras in parliament and defend his decision.
I can see the the illogic despite being a non-military person AS IT IS SO OBVIOUS.
Why the MILITARY EXPERTS CANNOT SEE IT? I guess dollars go a long way.
Yes. If I may add, let ADA/NAL/HAL build a few prototypes, and let the design be handed over to any domestic manufacturer, and let them build the production models. The initial order should be given to two or three companies, and depending upon the quality of the delivered products, the subsequent orders can be skewed in favour of the better manufacturer, so that the other one is not left high and dry, and is given an opportunity to improve.
When you can't have an aircraft as per the ASQR, the next thing one should do is to find the next best, Agreed.I have only one question.
When you can't have an aircraft as per the ASQR, what is the next thing one should do?
Be adamant lest someone accuses you and twiddle the thumbs or look for the next best even if that means lowering the ASQR requirement?
What is good? No aircraft or some aircraft?
I have no idea.When you can't have an aircraft as per the ASQR, the next thing one should do is to find the next best, Agreed.
Then why the same principle was not applied in case of HTT-40 ?? Why ASQR was not relaxed for HAL ??
Ohh... probably ASQR can only relaxed for Pilatus BTA, not for HTT-40. Isn't it ??
Then who does?Indeed you are ILLOGICAL.
Generals do not formulate Air Force staff Qualitative Requirements.
Get to understand the working of the Forces before giving categorical Oracle like statements.