Park Geun-hye: Japan Summit ‘Pointless’ Without Apology

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    t_co Senior Member Senior Member

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    Park Geun-hye: Japan Summit ‘Pointless’ Without Apology | The Editor | The Diplomat

    South Korea holds another 75-100bn USD in Japanese government bonds, and, unlike China, occupies a far less complementary (more competitive) niche in the global economy vis a vis Japan.
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    It has become fashionable to demand 'apology' for historical wrongs.

    Words cannot change history.

    These horrors can never be wiped out.
     
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    atleast they improve relations
     
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    t_co Senior Member Senior Member

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    Korea has far, far stronger historical resentment towards Japan than China does or ever did. Korea endured 35 years of brutal colonization by the Japanese, during which Japan

    1. Attempted to wipe out the Korean language
    2. Launched a twenty-two-year long policy of deliberate starvation, and produced an entire generation of malnourished children in Korea
    3. Shipped millions of Koreans around its empire as slave labor
    4. Killed tens of thousands of Koreans each year in 'pacification campaigns'
    5. Sexually enslaved thousands of Korean women every year
    6. Tested biological and chemical weapons on men, women, and children from 1930 to 1944
    7. Tortured and imprisoned any Koreans with education that refused to express their fealty to the Japanese emperor

    It is worth noting that when Japan invaded China, ethnic Koreans formed some of the most effective partisan bands on the Chinese side.

    I have Korean friends who say that, during their military service, when their US counterparts were not visiting their bases, they and their buddies would put up pictures of Japanese politicians on the shooting range and go for target practice. The hate definitely runs through the current generation, and were it not for the US holding things together, Korea would be firmly set against Japan.
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Is someone rapes a close family member, would that someone accept an apology for better relationship?

    If that someone accepts the apology, then it would be loss of character.

    International relationship is based on mutual interest, inspite of horrific inter se historical events.

    India and UK.

    China and Japan.
     
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    Actually, you can accept an apology if it also comes with concrete actions and a degree of governmental sincerity.

    For example, Willy Brandt knelt at Warsaw, and Germany has permanently suborned its military policy to the demands of NATO (and especially France). If Abe can kneel at Nanjing and suborn the Japanese military to Korea and China, then China can accept such an apology.
     
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    a heir can't be held guilty for ann ancestors mistake.by not apologising/atleast criticising to the mistakes of their ancestors they are supporting their ancestors.

    i don't know what happened in between japan and china for centuries ..but killing of civilians is always wrong
     
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    W.G.Ewald Defence Professionals/ DFI member of 2 Defence Professionals

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    Chinese prefer to dig up dead past of others rather than account for their own transgressions in the present. It become tedious.
     
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    The last time I checked, Park Geun-Hye was the Korean president of South Korea. The Diplomat is a fairly anti-China magazine based in Tokyo. How is this "China digging up the dead past of others"?
     
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    Koreans and Chinese should mass slaughter japanese because they are filthy,ugly and evil.
     
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    W.G.Ewald Defence Professionals/ DFI member of 2 Defence Professionals

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    I refer to your (Chinese guy) posting the article on DFI.
     
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    When he runs out of arguements, he started to troll. It is obvious he has nothing to add in this thread.
     
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    Fixed that for you. ;)
     
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    W.G.Ewald Defence Professionals/ DFI member of 2 Defence Professionals

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    As I said, let others decide who contributes to DFI. Your role is not to contribute, but to blindly support your totalitarian government.

    You Chinese really don't get it. because to you freedom is not logical.

    And, cowards like you can only run in packs.
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Wolves hunt in packs.

    Dogs, Wolves, and Foxes: Wolf Hunting Tactics
    Video -- Wolf Hunting Tactics -- National Geographic
     
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    In humans the behavior is seen as groupthink and bullying, although as I think about it, Chinese behavior here is more akin to that of the social insects, like ants and termites. The phenomenon is marked by the absence of independent thought.
     
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    So because Japan committed atrocities against Korea and China a long time back and haven't apologized for the mistakes of passed out generations, China is taking a revenge by doing the exact same things to Tibet, Xingiang and god know how many places and harassing almost all possible neighbors and non-neigbors as well?

    No wonder Chinese logic is so tough to understand for most people.:taunt1:
     
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    Hive-thinking is fine. Chinese thinking is haarmful to the world !!
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Chinese don't think.

    They thunk!

    informal term for thud ("the door closed behind us with a thunk").

    For that Chinese poster who was advising @bose to get a basic English lesson, here is some explanation of the word for you.

    noun: thunk; plural noun: thunks; verb: thunk; 3rd person present: thunks; past tense: thunked; past participle: thunked; gerund or present participle: thunking
     
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