Pakistan's new strategy: Exploit India's fault-lines on caste and religion, encourage Modi baiters

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These are people who forsake their religion culture because of fear. So naturally they don't know damn about Hindus , Santana dharma etc.

Btw dharma has always meant as duty in our ancient literature.
A warrior's dharma is to fight
A teacher's dharma is to teach.
Etc. In that manner. But who will teach these morons

Karma...Karma will teach them to follow the Dharma else get raped by camel people because of sheer ignorance and a lack of backbone well established into Dharma

 

[Screambowl]

What are you trying to convey ? That's called as Dharmic flexibility that Islam doesn't has on offer. LOL! There is nothing written in any Hindu Scriptures and Text which prohibits Hindus from any certain thing, you can even eat beef if you want as long as you still believe in your Dharma its not gonna make you a "Kaffir" as long as your National Laws don't restrict you.

yes but we promote munni sheila and javani

 

[busesaway]

Isnt the multilingual policy already there in one form or another and so called multi level of integration between states and the center..you need to read more on India..
India has survived and established itself with whatever tools it has implemented with its states and the center..so theres not need to emulate EU here.

The EU doesn't have an official language. Any lawmaker can speak and write in whatever language they want to, and demand that Europe pays of a translator to translate anything said.

The French, for example a nation similar to Tamil Nadu in terms of language protectionism, never speak in English in parliament and never write in English in the EU.

South India is more traditional!! errrrmm!
Theres a lot of Hindu movements which have already come out and established itself in the fabric of the nation.
What exactly you mean by "HINDU MOVEMENT" which you expect to come out of South India?

It's a common saying, that's all. I know of lots of people who say that South India is more traditional in its day-to-day life.

PM is already leading an alliance and its called NDA and its not a single political party.
This govt has better program for minorities than the previous UPA.. Why SOME welfare measures when there are LOTS of welfare mesaures.

I think the NDA needs to support minorities like women and sexual minorities. I'd also like a more 'Hindu' ethos from a supposedly 'Hindu' party, and I don't mean 'cow politics'.

 

[busesaway]

Well that is true, however, northerners are also equally traditional, however, most of the south remained untouched during Mughal rule, so, that could've something to do with your point.

North Indian Hindus are very dharmic in today's world, they believe in whooping a$$ in case of any disrespect.

I'm not sure where the saying comes from. I'm not trying to change the cultural norms of North India. It's just one of those things South Indians say to make fun of North Indians.

 

[busesaway]

No need for that either, BJP also prefers modernization over cultural values and like them for it. It's a right winger party where no socialism can take place.

1. Bringing any party for such cultural values, turning India into a hellhole like Middle East and Africa.
2. Stop hoping of such parties. No.new party is in position to have any ground in modern India. We are satisfied with what we got and we believe in materialism and national interests, not culture.

I support modernization. And I dislike socialism. But the BJP needs to drop some of its colonial mentality, and support things like human rights, freedom of the press, support for sexual minorities, feminism, etc....

And I'm well within my rights to support Hindu values or prefer Buddhist values. There's no reason to impose the values of a foreign culture based on Christianity on to a country that's historically been anything but Christian.

And traditional Indian values aren't negative or regressive. They are progressive and have been supported by the Indian diaspora, East Asians, and westerners too. There's no need to forget about Indian philosophy when there's very little wrong with it.

 

[sorcerer]

The EU doesn't have an official language. Any lawmaker can speak and write in whatever language they want to, and demand that Europe pays of a translator to translate anything said.

The French, for example a nation similar to Tamil Nadu in terms of language protectionism, never speak in English in parliament and never write in English in the EU.

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Language policy
As part of its efforts to promote mobility and intercultural understanding, the EU has designated language learning as an important priority, and funds numerous programmes and projects in this area. Multilingualism, in the EU’s view, is an important element in Europe’s competitiveness. One of the objectives of the EU’s language policy is therefore that every European citizen should master two other languages in addition to their mother tongue.

Let EU do what ever they want .and It has nothing to do with India..but India has an official language through which all official communication happens and fortunately this official language is made mandatory in schools..
and we have English which is understood by majority of the offices..such is how the recruitment happens at Govt level and in other channels..


Its okay..they can speak in whatever language they want to use and theres a translator for it..
So far so good!!
With new tools and information technology things are becoming way easier anyway.

It's a common saying, that's all. I know of lots of people who say that South India is more traditional in its day-to-day life.

May be..May be not..India is a palette of rich culture dialect and living which changes every few 100 Kms..and yes its all open to interpretations.
Bringing commonness into it is killing that traditions and way of life which anyway has adjusted and thrived through the darkest times till now..

I think the NDA needs to support minorities like women and sexual minorities. I'd also like a more 'Hindu' ethos from a supposedly 'Hindu' party, and I don't mean 'cow politics'

okay..so we are now onto women and sexual minority..

Do you know the NDA govt has many women ministers in the cabinet

The representation of women in the Modi government has touched double digit with the inclusion of two more ministers.Najma Heptullah was speculated to be dropped because she crossed 75 years of age, which Modi had insisted as the maximum age for ministers, but she has managed to retain her place.

Initially, Modi had inducted seven ministers in his government, but added one during his first expansion on November 9, 2014. On Tuesday, Modi inducted Anupriya Patel and Krishna Raj, both from Uttar Pradesh.

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/556258/2-more-women-ministers-modi.html

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India has had women PM and women president..compare that with the UNITED STATES and a few nations in the west whom had never had a female lead their nation.
Does china has had any women ruler?..or atleast anyone in core committee groups?
So...Indian democracy has always been conductive to females who wants to lead.
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The current govt is battling a Sharia rule for the rights of muslim women.
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you can check various govt websites for all the programs and outreach programs in place and how much they have achieved.

HIndu Ethos!!!
India is a democracy and democratic parties whatever be it dont support a single religion...even if its by a majority Hindu ..they work for the nation which belongs to everyone.
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Cow politics is played by the media for the west and the opposition with the media churning a lot of beef in various flavors.
There are manufactured incidents so are the incidents of rampant racial abuse against blacks in US and Muslims in china...shia in the muslim nations.

Cow was always used as a cover for warfare against India...before and now..but in a whole different packing.
We are sure those who wanted to create tension will use every ICON the Hindu dharma is having not just cowsss






I Hate Hindus, Wanted to Spark communal tensions-Leather Bag incident
Two months after claiming harassment by an auto driver over his office bag, Barun Kashyap sings a different tune during custodial interrogation; political conspiracy angle being probed too.

Film executive Barun Kashyap, who sparked a huge controversy in August after claiming that an auto driver bullied him accusing him of using a bag made of cowhide, spun a web of lies to disrupt communal harmony in Mumbai.

This sensational revelation came during Kashyap’s interrogation in police custody. In a confessional statement, Mirror accessed a copy, the creative director with a media house said his ‘hatred for Hindus’ prompted him to come up with the story.

“I accept that I lied about the entire incident. No such incident ever took place. My Facebook post was a lie,” reads the statement. To questions by cops about the reason for such a bluff, the 24-year-old said, “I lied because have hatred towards Hindus.”

According to the police, Kashyap’s intention was to play victim to gau rakshaks (cow vigilantes) and share his ‘plight’ to disrupt communal harmony in Mumbai as well as across the country.

In a complaint to the D N Nagar police on August 19, Kashyap, who lives opposite the Infinity Mall in Andheri, said he boarded an auto for his office around 11 am. During the commute, the professional said, the driver said his leather bag was stinking and asked if it was made of cowhide.

Despite telling that it was camel skin, the autowallah stopped the three-wheeler at some place and returned with three men who heckled him, Kashyap alleged. “Aaj toh bach gaye [you were saved today],” he told the cops quoting the men.

The film executive, who hails from Assam, also narrated the incident in a Facebook post, raising a storm and putting immense pressure on the government to act. Chief Minister Devendra Fadnavis had then said that the culprits won’t be spared.

What went against Kashyap

As the police began to investigate Kashyap’s allegations, they found that the film executive left home at 1 pm, not 11 am as claimed by him, and took nine minutes to reach his office. “We collected footage of CCTV cameras installed on the entire stretch. We discovered that it was a smooth ride and the auto did not stop even for a minute. It was beyond doubt that he had lied to us. That is why we registered a case against him,” said Deven Bharti, joint commissioner of police (law and order).

Politics behind the script?

The police are also probing if Kashyap’s allegations were part of a political conspiracy. “The fact that after the case was registered against Barun, he approached Aam Aadmi Party leader Priti Sharma Menon and stayed at her Chembur home for two days indicates a lot of things. The question is why he approached a political party for legal assistance. Was this a pre-planned agenda,” asked a senior police officer.

Charge sheet soon

The Amboli police, which probed the case, are likely to file the charge sheet in a few days, said sources. Kashyap, who was arrested on October 4 and is currently lodged in Arthur Road prison, has been booked under section 153A (promoting enmity between groups) and 182B (for use of lawful power of a public servant to injure or annoy any person) of the Indian Penal Code.

If convicted by a court, he can face jail up to five years. Sources said the cops will also record the statement of the AAP leader.
http://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/...rk-communal-tensions/articleshow/54822535.cms



but I liked the way you Dropped the "COW POLITICS", a word of divide in a totally unrelevant situation.
But hey!!!! Do you know!!!!!

Chinese boss 'forced Muslim women workers to eat pork to give them more stamina'

Three Muslims from Indonesia were 'distraught and afraid' after their boss at a suburban Taipei factory forced them to eat pork over a seven-month period or face punishment, a Taiwan rights group said today.

Taipei prosecutors indicted Chang Wen-lin, the owner of Shin Hua Hang Fashion Co, on April 26 for forcing the three women to consume pork during their September 2008 to April 2009 employment.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...n-workers-eat-pork-stamina.html#ixzz4O6TfJB7S
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So you know!!!

 

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I'm not sure where the saying comes from. I'm not trying to change the cultural norms of North India. It's just one of those things South Indians say to make fun of North Indians.

Well South Indians are actually much more calmer and closer to their Dharma, that being said they will also give you ass whooping in case of disrespect. Its one of those things that made Hinduism invincible even after the death of great civilizations. So yeah, South Indians are more educated and calmer, hence spiritual, North indians are equally traditional and religious but much less calmer and more exposed to Islamic discrimination, hence, whoopings. Hope u got the answer, and no, nobody in North India ( general public) hates southerns, we all are Indians after all and as much differences we might have, our similarities far outweighs our differences.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

I support modernization. And I dislike socialism. But the BJP needs to drop some of its colonial mentality, and support things like human rights, freedom of the press, support for sexual minorities, feminism, etc....

So, what are you saying? Hasn't that been protected. Oops, CNN and BBC right, these are from countries like USA and UK whose murder rate is double and rape rate ranges from 8 to 20 times of India's.
Where are their people's human rights? Still they bash India because we don't give human rights to terrorists and punish them? Where were the human rights people who were shot, beheaded and burnt alive by terrorists like Burhan Wani. No international body came ahead for their human rights. But hey, cutting these blooding butchers in two pieces with machine guns is a human right violation!

And drum beating our rape in India by Western media can't change fact that India has one of the lowest rape rates in world.

And I'm well within my rights to support Hindu values or prefer Buddhist values.

How many times I have to tell you that Indian Government was not elected for any religious value specially?

There's no reason to impose the values of a foreign culture based on Christianity on to a country that's historically been anything but Christian.

Care to explain me which Christian culture did BJP impose. I don't think that Christians have copyright on skyscrapers, planned cities etc..

BJP didn't tell anything to follow Christianity, instead they blocked their missionaries.
That's what actually happened and we had full panel discussions on that. It was even published in Chinese media.

And traditional Indian values aren't negative or regressive. They are progressive and have been supported by the Indian diaspora, East Asians, and westerners too. There's no need to forget about Indian philosophy when there's very little wrong with it.

Again, I'm against the traditions which obstruct path.
Christians also had some bad. They dumped that.
East Asians, they are atheists now, don't even practice the religion.

I can speak my language, I do Namaste instead of Hello, my festivals are still Indian, that's enough to prove me distinct from East Asians and westerners, same thing helps to differentiate between Westerners and East Asians.

Every country drops it's traditions except it's basics with it's development. And this is not a Christian thing, this is Universal.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Related (to the thread) post:
http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/threads/indias-nuclear-doctrine.28284/page-27#post-1222158

 

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Hatred And Subterfuge: Pakistan’s Proxy War On India



by Syed Ata Hasnain
While we may brush aside the failure of the Pakistan Army in 1965 and 1971, its ability to conceive a hybrid strategy for retribution against India as a nation and the Indian Army in particular, and then pursue it for close to 40 years is in itself a reason to bring about a mindset.

In all these 40 years, it has never been chided internationally, thus emboldening it even further. The understanding and recognition that the core centre of radical Islam lies in the Af-Pak region has never been denied by the international community, but the Indian intent of having Pakistan declared a rogue state sponsoring transnational terror too, has never been given the seriousness it deserved. This supposed moral victory has given the Pakistan Army the confidence and the perception that the world rarely sees threats in unison. It can, therefore, continue to target India through its hybrid variety of proxy war without fear.
Where did the idea of proxy war come from and how did it take shape?
To understand this, it is necessary to go back to 1972 and the Shimla Agreement. The devious Pakistani mind was on display and so was the trusting Indian attitude. Ninety-three thousand prisoners of war were handed over without an attempt to seek a permanent solution to our border problems. Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto guided Pakistan’s destiny for close to six years. It was the period in which the Pakistan Army was licking its wounds. In the interim came India’s Pokhran nuclear test, forcing the decision on Pakistan to also seek the bomb. In 1977, Zia-ul-Haq struck, unseated Bhutto and assumed power.
Zia then conceived his diabolical plan for seeking retribution. The plan was twofold. The first was all about neutralising India’s conventional superiority through acquisition of nuclear weapons capability. This was earnestly and illegally pursued through the 1980s and 1990s. The second was to seek opportunities or create them to exploit India’s apparent fault lines.
The history of the Af-Pak region through the 1980s is all about the experience that Pakistan Army’s senior and middle leadership gained in Afghanistan leading the transnational mujahideen and acting as the US and Saudi Arabia’s frontline state. They also ran a side show in India’s Punjab. It is this that apparently convinced the Pakistan Army leadership that religion/faith were powerful tools of motivation which created fervour and passion and could be exploited for strategic gains.
The 1980s also saw the advent of the Saudi clergy into Pakistan making a beeline for the seminaries set up in the refugee camps; the radical ideology of the Salafis found unresisted advocacy here. It was the beginning of the radicalisation of the Pakistan Army and the use of faith as a strategic weapon, something Pakistan continues to reflect in its larger thinking.
The opportunity did not need to be created. It came faster than anticipated and right where the Pakistani military leadership wanted it; in the Indian state of Jammu & Kashmir. The runaway success in Afghanistan in forcing the Soviet withdrawal came to be associated with the last nail in the coffin of the Cold War. Pakistan became the favoured partner of the US-Saudi combine.
It was heady, and the taste of success with the hybrid form of warfare in Afghanistan gave the generals the confidence to try the same against the Indian Army, then stuck in the quagmire of Sri Lanka. It’s a measure of the confidence of the Pakistani military leadership that it did not flinch when the opportunity was sensed in spite of the fact that Zia-ul-Haq, the chief advocate and strategist, died at the threshold in August 1988. Weaker leaderships may have succumbed, but General Mirza Afzal Beg, a mohajir cavalry officer along with Lt Gen Hamid Gul, a Punjabi, again from the cavalry, and experienced in conduct of covert operations as Director General, ISI, took the required decisions.
Institutionally, both ISI and ISPR have been the Pakistan Army’s mainstay in the execution of its strategy against India. The ISI has done the dirty work of getting the jihadi elements on board, as well as recruiting, financing and launching them, while the ISPR has managed the perception, information and strategic communication game. The leadership continues to believe in the infallibility of its strategy despite the Kargil setback and the near-war situations which emerged in 2001-02 and later in 2008.
On both occasions, the threshold of India’s tolerance for proxy war was crossed, but it did not progress into a full showdown. India’s advocacy of seeking all options is likely to have given the Pakistan Army a mistaken perception that it (India) was far too obsessed with its economic progress for it to risk a confrontation which would probably set it back by many percentage points in the economy charts.
In many ways, the ISPR, the lesser known of the two sword arms of the Pakistan Army, has been far more effective in its ventures and contributed greatly to the Pakistani strategy. Denial is its responsibility, besides the whole gamut of psychological operations. But it has been the joint effort of the two in bringing the struggle in Kashmir to the streets. Retrieving a tactical or operational situation involving terrorists, intrusions, infiltration or incidents of the Hazratbal and Charar-e-Sharif variety, is never a major challenge for the Indian Army as has been proven many times. However, the Pakistan Army has done its research well on the effects of an Intifada movement, the like of which was seen in 2008-10 and is continuing even now in 2016 after it was triggered by the death of Burhan Wani.
Recovery from such a situation needs a transformational change as was attempted in 2011. In a private discussion with the Indian defence attaché in 2011, Shuja Pasha, the high-profile ISI Chief is believed to have referred to the 2011 initiatives of the Indian Army. He reportedly admitted that the Pakistan establishment watched with wonderment how the Indian Army deftly switched the situation around with a change of strategy in the approach to the people.
The Pakistanis know it and have read our weaknesses too. They are aware of the civil-military divide, the media obsession, the inability to focus on the Kashmiri alienation and the woeful quality of the information game. Can it all be defeated this time? Perhaps, the Indian government’s ownership of the surgical strikes may have surprised them. If anything, some pragmatism about the limits of Pakistan’s interference in Kashmir and elsewhere in India may have dawned on the Pakistan Army.
That India can choose to execute non-escalatory actions and be brazen enough to not even produce evidence to the world is a noticeable departure from the past. Having tasted success and got the passionate support of the public behind it, the Indian government’s actions could be also perceived by the Pakistan Army as no longer predictable and may therefore impose some caution.
However, it is also entirely believable that irrationality continues to rule the Pakistan Army’s mindset. A self-belief that tactical nuclear weapons are the guarantee against India’s proactive strategy may continue to prevail and that could be the reason for brazenness.
The Pakistan Army’s belief in the strength of its relationship with China is also a major factor in promoting its errant ways. The coming of the China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) has enhanced the mutuality of that relationship. As the US-India strategic partnership emerges, the China-Pakistan equation will only strengthen, adding further weight to the mindset that the Pakistan Army can get away with some irrational acts to keep the pot boiling in Kashmir and elsewhere in India.
Finally, has anything changed due to the surgical strikes? It would be unfair to deduce that these have had no effect. At the same time, to state that they have changed the mindset of the Pakistani military leadership and forced it to retract from its avowed policy of interference in Jammu & Kashmir would also be incorrect. What they have definitely achieved is the conveyance of a strategic message that India’s political leadership can and will take decisions and take them early enough; and that it is quite capable of playing a diplomatic game to isolate Pakistan. The combining of options is a lesson being slowly realised. However, India would do well to take precautions against a possible unpredictable and irrational act which will cause much dismay, emotive public response and pressure, and leave it with even lesser options than what it had after Uri.
http://swarajyamag.com/magazine/hatred-and-subterfuge-pakistans-proxy-war-on-india

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Before pointing out on topic, I wanna say something.

The demonetisation can well trigger a recession, while not entirely addressing the black economy.

May be for Pakistanis for whom, internet is a luxury but India with 40% population using internet and still expanding very fast.

This will affect only those individuals who hold cash. Others who have already converted their money into assets, and invested in gold and other luxury items will be only marginally affected. This demonetisation is not likely to impact the structure, level and incidence of corruption in India. Often the proceeds of corrupt bureaucrats and politicians never arrive in India; they are handled off shores. They will now be only too happy to have Rs 2000 notes at their disposal.

Then, you need to read about next India's plan for targeting liquidities.
Moreover, you are crying about it's failure in other countries so le'me tell you that it's actually replacement of currency to check the corruption instead of real demonetization, a pure attempt to encourage people for cashless transactions.
Though I won't argue over entire article as it is not the economic thread.

So, now on topic:
What an irony, Dawn had to quote communist mouthpiece wire.in.
http://herald.dawn.com/news/1153593/why-indias-demonetisation-will-not-eliminate-corruption
I'm not listing up all but now a days, quoting of NDTV, Wire.in, Scroll.in & Statesman etc..:biggrin2:

 

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Weaponized Narrative Is the New Battlespace

And the U.S. is in the unaccustomed position of being seriously behind its adversaries.

Conventional military dominance is still critical to the superpower status of the United States. But even in a military sense, it is no longer enough: if an American election can be controlled by an adversarial power, then stealth aircraft and special forces are not the answer. With lawmakers poised to authorize $160 million to counter Russian “fake news” and disinformation, and the CIA and the Congress examining meddling in the U.S. election and democracies around the world, it’s time to see weaponized narrative for what it is: a deep threat to national security.

Weaponized narrative seeks to undermine an opponent’s civilization, identity, and will by generating complexity, confusion, and political and social schisms. It can be used tactically, as part of explicit military or geopolitical conflict; or strategically, as a way to reduce, neutralize, and defeat a civilization, state, or organization. Done well, it limits or even eliminates the need for armed force to achieve political and military aims.

The efforts to muscle into the affairs of the American presidency, Brexit, the Ukraine, the Baltics, and NATO reflect a shift to a “post-factual” political and cultural environment that is vulnerable to weaponized narrative. This begs three deeper questions:

• How global is this phenomenon?
• Are the underlying drivers temporary or systemic?
• What are the implications for an American military used to technological dominance?

Far from being simply a U.S. or U.K. phenomenon, shifts to “post-factualism” can be seen in Poland, Hungary, Turkey, France, and the Philippines, among other democracies. Russia, whose own political culture is deeply post-factual and indeed post-modern, is now ably constructing ironic, highly cynical, weaponized narratives that were effective in the Ukrainian invasion, and are now destabilizing the Baltic states and the U.S. election process.


Such a large and varied shift to weaponized narrative implies that the enablers are indeed systemic. One fundamental underpinning – often overlooked – is the accelerating volume and velocity of information. Cultures, institutions, and individuals are, among many other things, information-processing mechanisms. As they become overwhelmed with information complexity, the tendency to retreat into simpler narratives becomes stronger.

The emotionally satisfying decision to accept a weaponized narrative inoculates cultures, institutions, and individuals against counterarguments and inconvenient facts.

Under this stress, cultures fragment. Institutions are stretched until they become ineffective or even dysfunctional. Individuals who define their identity primarily through the state – such as Americans, Russians, Chinese, or Europeans – retreat to a mythic Golden Age nationalism, while those who prioritize cultural and religious bonds retreat to fundamentalism.

Narrative is as old as tribes. Humans are pattern-seeking storytelling animals. We cannot endure an absence of meaning. Rather than look up at the distribution of lights in the night sky and deal with randomness, we will eagerly connect those dots and adorn them with the most elaborate – even poetic – tales of heroes and princesses and bears and dippers. We have a hard-wired need for myth. Narrative is basic to what it means to be human.

What’s new is the extraordinary power of today’s weaponized narrative. It attacks our group identity – our sense of who we are, our privilege of not being identified as “other.” The rise of the Connected Age allows attacks that tear down old identities that have bound us together. But it also allows the creation of narratives that define the new differences between “us” and “them” that are worth fighting for.

Weaponized narrative comes at a critical juncture. The speed of upheaval in our lives is unprecedented. It will be filled by something. We are desperate for something to hang on to.

By offering cheap passage through a complex world, weaponized narrative furnishes emotional certainty at the cost of rational understanding. The emotionally satisfying decision to accept a weaponized narrative — to believe, to have faith — inoculates cultures, institutions, and individuals against counterarguments and inconvenient facts.

This departure from rationality opens such ring-fenced belief communities to manipulation and their societies to attack. These communities can be strengthened through media tools and messages that reinforce the narrative — crucially, by demonizing outsiders. Trust is extended only to those who believe, leaving other institutional and social structures to erode.

In the hands of professionals, the powerful emotions of anger and fear can be used to control adversaries, limit their options, and disrupt their functional capabilities. This is a unique form of soft power.


In such campaigns, facts are not necessary because – contrary to the old memes of the Enlightenment – truth does not necessarily prevail. It can be overwhelmed with constantly repeated and replenished falsehood. Especially powerful are falsehoods or simplifications that the target cohort has been primed to believe by the underlying narratives with which they are also being supplied.

Truth can be overwhelmed with constantly repeated and replenished falsehood.

It’s a self-reinforcing loop. This process was clear in Ukraine, in Brexit, in creation of alt-right and other far right and left communities in many countries, and in the American presidential election. All of these campaigns combine indigenous factors with known or suspected Russian deployment of weaponized narrative, achieving significant benefits for Russia with low risk of conventional military responses by the West. Indeed, the response by America, NATO, and European states has been confused, sporadic, and ineffective.

In the short term, then, weaponized narrative challenges existing Western military and security institutions grown comfortable in their post-Cold War conventional-force dominance. At least one major adversary now has a capability – and indeed a new battlespace – that is not just unfamiliar. It is one where institutional, historical, and cultural factors put the U.S. at a significant disadvantage.

But the longer-term challenges are even more profound: Post-factual politics weaken democratic governance. It enables what might be called post-modern soft authoritarianism. Such authoritarianism is not absolute in the traditional Nazi or Stalinist sense. Rather – much like Putin’s Russia today – it relies on a sophisticated combination of managed public expectations, a tenuous but real political legitimacy, and the division of state power among otherwise isolated communities. These then become easy to balance against each other, the more readily to be dominated by authoritarian personalities and institutions.

The mechanism, again, depends on weaponized narrative. Old authoritarianism too often required large security forces, violent repression of citizens, and absolute control of information (the Big Lie). How much simpler to engineer human communities so that the expensive and messy process of explicit authoritarianism can be replaced by the far gentler – and more effective – mechanism of narrative.

History is replete with examples. For centuries in Europe, the Church’s narrative of the Great Chain of Being kept the peace. Rebellion simply lay outside the reality within which most people lived.

Our societies and institutions must adapt, or pass into history alongside others that did not.

It is certainly not clear that weaponized narrative necessarily leads to soft authoritarianism. But it is at least plausible that the advance of inclusive democracy and universalist Western values has been reversed. Authoritarian organizations and states are more adaptive in this new post-factual political environment. Weaponized narratives can only increase the possibility of soft authoritarian outcomes if they are not understood and engaged.

At any rate, it is certainly a reasonable hypothesis that the Enlightenment age of the individual – the core to any democratic system – is clearly ending. Unprecedented complexity, and information volumes and velocities, simply mean that individual cognitive capabilities – no matter how brilliant – are overwhelmed. Power shifts towards those who understand and deploy narrative, be they large states, large corporations, or religious and cultural communities. Power leaks away from the naïve faith in individual rationality that has characterized the last three centuries in the West.

What this may mean for military and security organizations committed to democratic states – or, indeed, for the United States as a whole – is not entirely clear. But much of what has previously been assumed to be fixed and unchanging is turning out to be, in fact, unpredictable, unforeseeable, and random. And the rate of change is accelerating.

It is futile to wish this change away. Instead, we must recognize weaponized narrative, to defend against it, and to put it to our own uses. Our societies and institutions must adapt, or pass into history alongside others that did not.

http://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2017/01/weaponized-narrative-new-battlespace/134284/?oref=d-dontmiss

 

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Don’t join the Anti India platform because you are Anti Modi

No Indian citizen would object if Rahul Gandhi fights Narendra Modi tooth and nail, both inside and outside the parliament For that is what the opposition is supposed to do. However when the Congress VP starts supporting students shouting anti national slogans that talk of India’s Destruction then that becomes unacceptable. There are several videos available on the internet today about the anti national slogan shouting that has been shown prominently in all major TV Channels.

None of those videos show the students at JNU shouting anti Modi or anti BJP slogans. The videos clearly show that slogans such as ‘Pakistan Zindabad ‘ along with inflammatory hate India sloganeering followed including ‘Kashmir ki azadi tak jung chalegi, Bharat ki barbadi tak jung chalegi’ ( Till Kashmir is free and India is destroyed this war will go on ) The slogan shouting went on for over half an hour. The media which was called in to cover the event by the student body has clear recordings of the proceedings. There was no slogan raised against any political party at the event nor one about curtailing freedom of speech. Instead slogans were raised in support of Pakistan, the freedom of Kashmir and urging the creation of thousands of Afzals that will ultimately lead to the destruction of India.




The videos show that the speeches were clearly inciting the students to follow the footsteps of Afzal Guru . The man who attacked the Indian parliament was portrayed as a martyr and students were told to join the struggle to free Kashmir and destroy India. Both the student union leaders the President Kanhaiya Kumar of the SFI and Ram Naga the Secretary belonging to the ultra left AISA were present at the event along with nearly a hundred other slogan shouting students mainly from the AISA .

The police arrested 8 student leaders including the Students Union President Kanhaiya Kumar and General Secretary Rama Naga, Syed Umar Khalid the event organizer, Anirban Bhattacharya, Ashutosh Kumar, Ananth Prakash Narayan, indulged in anti Indian slogan shouting and charged them with sedition. Six of the of the eight student leaders arrested from JNU belong to the AISA. The ultra left All India Students Association AISA has been dominating the students union election since long at JNU. However this year it lost two of the four seats one to the SFI and one to the ABVP. The AISA is the overground students body of the Maoist Leninist party or the Naxalites.

It is widely believed that it was the AISA cadre along with few Maoist Leninist elements had largely indulged in the Anti Indian sloganeering at JNU last week. AISA is the students wing of the CPI ML or Marxist Leninist extremist organization, has been infiltrated with several Kashmiri militant elements who escaped from campus soon after the incident and have evaded arrests. The arrested JNSU council members including the President are refusing to co-operate with the police and name those students who indulged in slogan shouting and organizing the meet.

The Congress is supporting the students because it is using the anti national platform to shore up opposition unity to the Government. The party was marginalized in the 2014 Loksabha Elections and got only 44 seats. It has lost its credentials but regained some ground in Bihar joining the Anti Modi Platform . It hopes to convert the Anti National Platform of the JNSU slogan shouting incident into an Anti Modi Platform and secure a sound and lasting tie up with the CPI and CPM as it has lost its own USP. It is strange how the Anti Modi Sentiment of the Congress and the opposition parties make them join the Anti India Platform so easily.



https://blogs.economictimes.indiati...nti-india-platform-because-you-are-anti-modi/

 

[sorcerer]

Anti-Sterlite Protesters Killed For Rejecting RSS Ideologies, Says Congress Chief Rahul Gandhi

In the wake of the anti-Sterlite protests which took place on Tuesday in Tamil Nadu's Thoothukudi, Congress President Rahul Gandhi claimed that the protestors were killed for rejecting Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh's (RSS) ideologies.

"Tamilians have been massacred because they refused to accept Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS's) ideologies. The RSS and Prime Minister Narendra Modi have been opposed by Tamil Nadu. Also, people of Tamil Nadu cannot be suppressed," he tweeted in Tamil.


The Congress President also extended support to the people of Tamil Nadu.

"Dear Tamil brothers and sisters, we are with you," he said.

11 people were killed and more than 65 injured in police firing in the protest against the construction of a new copper smelter by the Sterlite industries in Thoothukudi.

The agitation turned violent after protestors were not allowed to march up to the plant, due to which they began to pelt stones and topple police vehicles.

In retaliation, police officials resorted to lathi-charge and tear gas to disperse the crowd.

In the wake of the tragedy, Tamil Nadu Chief Minister Edappadi K Palaniswami announced an ex-gratia of Rs 10 lakh for the kin of the deceased, Rs 3 lakh for those severely injured and Rs 1 lakh for those who sustained minor injuries.

Palaniswami also announced government jobs for the family of the deceased.

Meanwhile, the Home Ministry on Wednesday sought a report from the Tamil Nadu government on the protest. Furthermore, a commission headed by a retired High Court judge, Aruna Jagadeesan, has also been constituted to probe the incident.

The locals are up in arms against the construction of the copper plant, as they claim the plant would pollute groundwater in their area, thus causing serious environmental hazards. (ANI)



https://www.outlookindia.com/websit...ing-rss-ideologies-says-congress-chief/312097

 

[nongaddarliberal]

The only deterrent to this nonsense is to find out who's behind these incidents and start our own psychological warfare against them. It is not only pakistan which is involved in India, there are many European countries and NGO's stoking the flame. Simply reacting to it won't do. We must give a guarantee that we will create the same chaos on your streets as you do on ours. Though with Europe and Americs I don't know what additional chaos we can create. The migrants are already wrecking havoc in Europe and the blacks and hispanics are taking care of America. Pakistan is a low hanging fruit whose population can easily be manipulated with smart use of money and propaganda, which we are not doing. With Afghan help we can create a kashmir like situation in the NWF region.

 

[sorcerer]

The only deterrent to this nonsense is to find out who's behind these incidents and start our own psychological warfare against them. It is not only pakistan which is involved in India, there are many European countries and NGO's stoking the flame. Simply reacting to it won't do. We must give a guarantee that we will create the same chaos on your streets as you do on ours. Though with Europe and Americs I don't know what additional chaos we can create. The migrants are already wrecking havoc in Europe and the blacks and hispanics are taking care of America. Pakistan is a low hanging fruit whose population can easily be manipulated with smart use of money and propaganda, which we are not doing. With Afghan help we can create a kashmir like situation in the NWF region.

Well!!! Its actually only now that we are working on taming pakistan.
Its a fragile situation. We need a stable govt in India for another 5 to 10 years to total pakistan.

If we create another Civilian plight in pakistan and without a STRONG GUARD in India to stop the refugee influx(which is very likely) via paki proxies in India, we can be sure that migrants will be used as a tool of asymmetric warfare by whole world nations who wants to score on India.We have seen how the economically viable Europe has turned into a land of cucks. A lot need to be done within India too to prevent such a fallout.

The new found friend USA etc is waiting for such, to loot India to its bare extent. USA would want India to destabilize pakistan prematurely.USA has sensed these and has pulled back its support to pakistan to make India's ploy easy in pakistan.

We now know how much of the Indian politicians who held the highest offices in India are corrupted by pakis by the previous regime of the family regime.
India is very aware of this and is playing very consciously.

One thing is sure currently, the GoI has set the things rolling..
From Day 1, i.e banning NGOs, to exposing pak proxies and politicians to securing cost..India is definitely working to the finer extent of taming pakistan and slicing it. .

 

[sorcerer]

Violence costs India's GDP over $1 trillion on PPP basis, per person cost at Rs 40,000
Violence cost the Indian economy a whopping USD 1.19 trillion (over Rs 80 lakh crore) last year in constant purchasing power parity (PPP) terms, which amounts to roughly USD 595.4 per person, says a report.

The findings are part of the report prepared by the Institute for Economics and Peace (IEP) based on an analysis of 163 countries and territories.

Violence impacted USD 1,190.51 billion to the Indian economy in 2017, 9 per cent of the country's gross domestic product (GDP) or USD 595.4 (over Rs 40,000) per person.

The economic impact of violence to the global economy was USD 14.76 trillion in 2017, in PPP terms. This is equivalent to 12.4 per cent of GDP, or USD 1,988 per person.

The global economic impact of violence is defined as the expenditure and economic effect related to "containing, preventing and dealing with the consequences of violence".

The estimates include the direct and indirect cost of violence as well as an economic multiplier. "The multiplier effect calculates the additional economic activity that would have accrued if the direct costs of violence had been avoided," the report noted.


As per the report, human beings encounter conflict regularly - whether at home, at work, among friends, or on a more systemic level between ethnic, religious or political groups. But the majority of these conflicts do not result in violence.

The fall in peacefulness over the decade was caused by a wide range of factors, including increased terrorist activity, the intensification of conflicts in the Middle East, rising regional tensions in Eastern Europe and northeast Asia, and increasing numbers of refugees and heightened political tensions in Europe and the US, it added.

About the Asia-Pacific region, it said it remained the third most peaceful region in the world despite a slight fall in its overall peacefulness. There were notable improvements in both internal and external conflicts fought and relations with neighbouring countries, but violent crime, terrorism impact, political instability and political terror all deteriorated across the region.

For South Asia, the report said strengthening scores on the Political Terror Scale, refugees and internally displaced person (IDPs) and terrorism impact were only partially offset by a deterioration in external conflicts fought after a border dispute with China flared in the Doklam Pass. The three-month standoff also involved India, which sent troops to the area, it added.

In this region, the two least peaceful nations - Afghanistan and Pakistan - continued their decline. Besides, Bangladesh and Myanmar also saw deterioration, including due to the Rohingya crisis.

"The total economic impact of violence (globally) was higher in 2017 than at any point in the last decade," the report said, adding that the global economic impact of violence increased by 2.1 per cent from 2016 to 2017, mainly due to a rise in internal security expenditure.

Syria topped the list of most affected countries by economic cost of violence as a percentage of GDP at 68 per cent, followed by Afghanistan (63 per cent), Iraq (51 per cent) in the second and third position respectively.

Others in the ten most affected countries by economic cost of violence include El Salvador, South Sudan, Central African Republic, Cyprus, Colombia, Lesotho and Somalia.

The report further noted that there has been a widening "prosperity gap" between less and more peaceful countries. Since 1960, the most peaceful countries have, on average, seen their per capita GDP grow by an annual rate of 2.8 per cent.

On the other hand, less peaceful countries have experienced economic stagnation. Their annual per capita GDP has, on average, grown by just 1 per cent over the last seven decades.

Switzerland is the least affected country in terms of economic cost of violence, followed by Indonesia and Burkina Faso.

Among emerging markets violence impacted USD 1,704.62 billion to the Chinese economy, Brazil (USD 511,364.9 million), Russia (USD 1,013.78 billion) and South Africa (USD 239,480.2 million).

Among developed nations, for the US, the cost of violence in terms of PPP was USD 2.67 trillion or 8 per cent of the GDP. For the UK, it was 312.27 billion, 7 per cent of GDP.

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[ezsasa]

Violence costs India's GDP over $1 trillion on PPP basis, per person cost at Rs 40,000
Violence cost the Indian economy a whopping USD 1.19 trillion (over Rs 80 lakh crore) last year in constant purchasing power parity (PPP) terms, which amounts to roughly USD 595.4 per person, says a report.

The findings are part of the report prepared by the Institute for Economics and Peace (IEP) based on an analysis of 163 countries and territories.

Violence impacted USD 1,190.51 billion to the Indian economy in 2017, 9 per cent of the country's gross domestic product (GDP) or USD 595.4 (over Rs 40,000) per person.

The economic impact of violence to the global economy was USD 14.76 trillion in 2017, in PPP terms. This is equivalent to 12.4 per cent of GDP, or USD 1,988 per person.

The global economic impact of violence is defined as the expenditure and economic effect related to "containing, preventing and dealing with the consequences of violence".

The estimates include the direct and indirect cost of violence as well as an economic multiplier. "The multiplier effect calculates the additional economic activity that would have accrued if the direct costs of violence had been avoided," the report noted.


As per the report, human beings encounter conflict regularly - whether at home, at work, among friends, or on a more systemic level between ethnic, religious or political groups. But the majority of these conflicts do not result in violence.

The fall in peacefulness over the decade was caused by a wide range of factors, including increased terrorist activity, the intensification of conflicts in the Middle East, rising regional tensions in Eastern Europe and northeast Asia, and increasing numbers of refugees and heightened political tensions in Europe and the US, it added.

About the Asia-Pacific region, it said it remained the third most peaceful region in the world despite a slight fall in its overall peacefulness. There were notable improvements in both internal and external conflicts fought and relations with neighbouring countries, but violent crime, terrorism impact, political instability and political terror all deteriorated across the region.

For South Asia, the report said strengthening scores on the Political Terror Scale, refugees and internally displaced person (IDPs) and terrorism impact were only partially offset by a deterioration in external conflicts fought after a border dispute with China flared in the Doklam Pass. The three-month standoff also involved India, which sent troops to the area, it added.

In this region, the two least peaceful nations - Afghanistan and Pakistan - continued their decline. Besides, Bangladesh and Myanmar also saw deterioration, including due to the Rohingya crisis.

"The total economic impact of violence (globally) was higher in 2017 than at any point in the last decade," the report said, adding that the global economic impact of violence increased by 2.1 per cent from 2016 to 2017, mainly due to a rise in internal security expenditure.

Syria topped the list of most affected countries by economic cost of violence as a percentage of GDP at 68 per cent, followed by Afghanistan (63 per cent), Iraq (51 per cent) in the second and third position respectively.

Others in the ten most affected countries by economic cost of violence include El Salvador, South Sudan, Central African Republic, Cyprus, Colombia, Lesotho and Somalia.

The report further noted that there has been a widening "prosperity gap" between less and more peaceful countries. Since 1960, the most peaceful countries have, on average, seen their per capita GDP grow by an annual rate of 2.8 per cent.

On the other hand, less peaceful countries have experienced economic stagnation. Their annual per capita GDP has, on average, grown by just 1 per cent over the last seven decades.

Switzerland is the least affected country in terms of economic cost of violence, followed by Indonesia and Burkina Faso.

Among emerging markets violence impacted USD 1,704.62 billion to the Chinese economy, Brazil (USD 511,364.9 million), Russia (USD 1,013.78 billion) and South Africa (USD 239,480.2 million).

Among developed nations, for the US, the cost of violence in terms of PPP was USD 2.67 trillion or 8 per cent of the GDP. For the UK, it was 312.27 billion, 7 per cent of GDP.

Read more at:
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That's 10% of GDP in PPP, NO WAY. i am not buying this argument.
On the flipside, violence also adds to the GDP. Let's say a bus has been burnt in a riot, insurance gets paid and a new bus is bought later. doesn't this trade add to the GDP?

There will be some short term negative impact due to violence, but not such huge amounts mentioned in the article.

 

[aditya10r]

That's 10% of GDP in PPP, NO WAY. i am not buying this argument.
On the flipside, violence also adds to the GDP. Let's say a bus has been burnt in a riot, insurance gets paid and a new bus is bought later. doesn't this trade add to the GDP?

There will be some short term negative impact due to violence, but not such huge amounts mentioned in the article.

More the violence more the growth then????

Mitrooooo, attack your enemies and help India grow.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Make a strong law to book all those trying to play cast card and who tries to put cast against cast. Send them to jail Immediately. Make required changes in laws.