Pakistan's Goal is to conquer Afganistan

[average american]

I was just reading the Hindu News,,,, and just realized that Pakistan Goal is to use terrorism and groups like the Taliban and Al Quada to not just influence events in Afganstan but to actually conquer Afganstan and combine it with Pakistan into one nation. Evidently the feel it would allow them to more easily compete economically and militarily with India. That is Pakistan long range goal. What do you think?

 

[The Messiah]

On the contrary they're breaking up!

pakistan is itself a conquered country and conquered people and have been for thousands of years. They are still controlled by external forces even today. They have never been sovereign and suffer from an identity crises.

 

[Dovah]

Iis was never a secret, Pakistan has always looked for strategic depth in Afghanistan and hence are shit scared of any Indian presence in Afg. The attack on Indian embassy was carried out for this reason only.

 

[opesys]

I was just reading the Hindu News,,,, and just realized that Pakistan Goal is to use terrorism and groups like the Taliban and Al Quada to not just influence events in Afganstan but to actually conquer Afganstan and combine it with Pakistan into one nation. Evidently the feel it would allow them to more easily compete economically and militarily with India. That is Pakistan long range goal. What do you think?

They get billions of dollars,free military equipments,free F-16s from the US, free oil from Saudis, Free nukes from China and now what do you expect ?

 

[Shaitan]

The same extremist that are blowing themselves up all over Pakistan?

 

[Black Blood]

Reunification with Afghanistan is hardly a new concept, it may happen but not anytime soon. As far "conquering" is concerned we don't need to, its a natural bond with 60 million Pashtuns on both sides, its bound to happen one way or another.Pakistan and Afghanistan were a single country under the Durrani Empire in 1747.

There are strong elements on both sides that favor a full unification or a cooperative agreement like the UAE.

 

[desicanuk]

Yeah.However I dont think they are stupid enough to conquer and annex Afghanistan.Rather by proxy is more like it.That plan was working when ISI installed Taliban
to run Afghanistan.However it all fell apart when ISI invited al-Qaeda to move in and help the Jihad effort against the dreaded infidels to the east.This plan blew up in Pakis face.The rest is history.Now that Pakistan is imploding it might well be that the Baloch and the Afghans (both Iranic) can be brought together to found a new country.This would be a win win for India, the Baloch and Afghans and of course the West.

 

[bose]

There are too much hate rate for Pakistan specially among Uzbek & Tajik population who constitutes more than 50% of population ... Any such attempts will lead to to the breakup of Afghanistan...

 

[Shaitan]

Reunification with Afghanistan is hardly a new concept, it may happen but not anytime soon. As far "conquering" is concerned we don't need to, its a natural bond with 60 million Pashtuns on both sides, its bound to happen one way or another.Pakistan and Afghanistan were a single country under the Durrani Empire in 1747.

There are strong elements on both sides that favor a full unification or a cooperative agreement like the UAE.

So you're going to give up your sovereignty to the Afghans? If you're using the Durrani as an example it's west taking over the east.

its a natural bond with 60 million Pashtuns on both sides, its bound to happen one way or another.

That doesnt sound like a good thing at all.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

I was just reading the Hindu News,,,, and just realized that Pakistan Goal is to use terrorism and groups like the Taliban and Al Quada to not just influence events in Afganstan but to actually conquer Afganstan and combine it with Pakistan into one nation.

Yuh, OK. How about a source more specific than "Hindu News"?

 

[Black Blood]

There are too much hate rate for Pakistan specially among Uzbek & Tajik population who constitutes more than 50% of population ... Any such attempts will lead to to the breakup of Afghanistan...

Uzbiks and Tajiks are a minority and are known for making "compromises" when it comes to the majority 59% Pashtuns.

So you're going to give up your sovereignty to the Afghans? If you're using the Durrani as an example it's west taking over the east.

They are our brothers, there is no question of sovereignty, we don't have a border Pakistan and Afghanistan already are a single country with two different names. Pashtuns in Pakistan and Afghanistan share historic ties and feel divided, it will be a win win for both parties. As far as i am concerned its a geo-strategic and geographic inevitability, it may not happen in my life time but it will happen. Not a whole lot of people know about this that we almost had a done deal with King Zahir Shah in the 50s with Liaqat ali khan from our side to establish a unified constitutional monarchy, with a democratic state and Zahir shah would have been the constitutional monarch.


We approached soviets, they wanted a trade off in return for accepting such a union they wanted transit to Karachi which we agreed. They built a steel mill in Karachi, our relations with USSR were warming up and the union with afghanistan was about to become a reality. The Americans found out they didn't want USSR accessing karachi because it would have shifted the economic balance. They asked Bhutto to back off, he refused they supported Gen Zia ul haq to overthrow him, then he was killed. USSR approached Zia in 1978, for the transit, he did what he was hired to do, he refused. USSR got angry and promised to take it by force, 7 months after bhutto was hanged they invaded Afghanistan..Now you know why they REALLY invaded Afghanistan.

 

[KS]

Uzbiks and Tajiks are a minority and are known for making "compromises" when it comes to the majority 59% Pashtuns.

Wrong..Pathans comprise about 40-45% of the population. Not 60%.

They are our brothers, there is no question of sovereignty, we don't have a border Pakistan and Afghanistan already are a single country with two different names. Pashtuns in Pakistan and Afghanistan share historic ties and feel divided, it will be a win win for both parties.

Pakistan does not have a border with Afghanistan NOT because it feels all lovey dovey for the Afghans but because practically it cant enforce the border without the Pathans on both sides of the imaginary/artificial border revolting. Pakistan would give a limb and a half to completely seal the border with Afghanistan..but right now it cant.

And the Afghans feel kinship only with the pathans in Pakistan...most certainly not with the Punjabis. So if at all anything of the sort you suggest happens, it will be more like an Afghanistan upto Attock and then Pakistan ..well then it would be just Punjab and Sindh..

 

[Shaitan]

Those Pashtuns aren't going to be someone elses bottom bitch. That's for sure. I dont see anything like that happening, naturally. It's something you have to go out and take for yourself. Like how the Afghans took Punjab and Sindh in the past. And you can bet it's going to be hard for Afghans to identity as Pakistani.

 

[blank_quest]

Now you know why they REALLY invaded Afghanistan.

If [assume] they wanted transit to Karachi why would they overtake Afghanistan apply your brain.. that would be natural to overtake Pakistan .. so Pakistan would have been attacked at later stage as final goal

 

[The Messiah]

Reunification with Afghanistan is hardly a new concept, it may happen but not anytime soon. As far "conquering" is concerned we don't need to, its a natural bond with 60 million Pashtuns on both sides, its bound to happen one way or another.Pakistan and Afghanistan were a single country under the Durrani Empire in 1747.

There are strong elements on both sides that favor a full unification or a cooperative agreement like the UAE.

f--- me! there was pakistan in 1772

 

[KS]

f--- me! there was pakistan in 1772

Well they get taught in their books that the idealogy of Pakistan was born in 712 AD when MBQ landed in Sindh..

 

[The Messiah]

Those Pashtuns aren't going to be someone elses bottom bitch. That's for sure. I dont see anything like that happening, naturally. It's something you have to go out and take for yourself. Like how the Afghans took Punjab and Sindh in the past. And you can bet it's going to be hard for Afghans to identity as Pakistani.

its a bloody slur...chances are pakis will be identifying themselves as afghans (which they already do). bloody deluded puppets

 

[Black Blood]

If [assume] they wanted transit to Karachi why would they overtake Afghanistan apply your brain.. that would be natural to overtake Pakistan .. so Pakistan would be attacked at later stage as final goal

Its you trying to shut your brain, if USSR had been successful in taking over Afghanistan the next target was Balochistan and USSR wanted Gawadar as an alternative to develop a Soviet Naval base. Gwadar is just 150Kms away from the straight of Hormoez.

 

[Black Blood]

Wrong..Pathans comprise about 40-45% of the population. Not 60%.

There are Pashtu speaking tribes too, which are too small to stand up to Pashtuns.

Pakistan does not have a border with Afghanistan NOT because it feels all lovey dovey for the Afghans but because practically it cant enforce the border without the Pathans on both sides of the imaginary/artificial border revolting. Pakistan would give a limb and a half to completely seal the border with Afghanistan..but right now it cant.

And the Afghans feel kinship only with the pathans in Pakistan...most certainly not with the Punjabis. So if at all anything of the sort you suggest happens, it will be more like an Afghanistan upto Attock and then Pakistan ..well then it would be just Punjab and Sindh..

Nothing here to reply, few lines of plain brain fart.

 

[Black Blood]

Well they get taught in their books that the idealogy of Pakistan was born in 712 AD when MBQ landed in Sindh..

We don't get taught that in the history books but yes that might be a correct assessment.