Pakistan to get first call on US military leftovers in Afghanistan

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    Along with the Taliban, Pakistan will be a massive gainer from America's troop drawdown from Afghanistan by end-2014. A top-level US official, speaking off-the-record, has told Business Standard that Pakistan will get first call on all the American military equipment that costs too much to be transported back to the US.

    Washington believes it is obligated to Islamabad for bringing the Taliban to the negotiating table at Qatar, for discussions aimed at reducing violence in Afghanistan, which would smoothen the American troop drawdown this year and the next. Furthermore, Washington relies on Pakistan for overland transit from Afghanistan to Karachi, where heavy equipment is loaded onto cargo vessels bound for the US.

    Uzbekistan, which also provides transit routes to the US, had earlier sought to buy the surplus US equipment in Afghanistan. But routing through Uzbekistan, and then over a road and rail network in Central Asia and Russia called the Northern Distribution Network, is four to five times more expensive and time consuming than transiting through Pakistan. Washington has now decided conclusively in favour of Pakistan.

    An earlier report in The Washington Post had estimated that the US military would leave behind some $7 billion worth of defence equipment, one-fifth of what is deployed in Afghanistan. US military officials tell Business Standard that aircraft, heavy weapons, vehicles and equipment are likely to be repatriated to the US. Much of what Pakistan will benefit from will be ammunition, vehicles, construction material, air-conditioners, etc.

    Much more could be left behind if the situation deteriorates; Taliban resistance would determine what could feasibly be transported. Sceptics in New Delhi point out that Pakistan controls the spigot of violence.

    It has not been revealed how much Pakistan would pay for the equipment left behind, but US officials say it would be a fraction of the real value. Given that the US is paying billions of dollars each year to build up the Afghan National Army (ANA) and Afghan National Police (ANP), it remains unclear why Washington has not given Kabul the first call on the surplus equipment being left behind.

    The cost of repatriation, says Bloomberg News, could be about $7 billion. Danish container giant, Moeller-Maersk A/S, Singapore-based Neptune Orient Lines, and German company, Hapag-Lloyd AG will ship out some 22,000 container-loads of equipment, says US Assistant Secretary of Defence for Logistics, Alan Estevez.

    Much of that business would go to Pakistani truck operators in Peshawar and Quetta. Equipment in northern Afghanistan would be transported over the Khyber Pass, through Peshawar to Karachi; while equipment in the south of Afghanistan would cross the Bolan Pass, and then be taken through Quetta to Karachi.

    Islamabad has effectively demonstrated to Washington its reliance on Pakistani goodwill. After a US air strike killed 24 Pakistani soldiers at a border post in November 2011, Islamabad shut down transit routes till July 2012, forcing the Pentagon into costly dependence on the Northern Distribution Network.

    Over the years, Washington has provided Islamabad an approximate $2.5 billion annually in military aid. About half of that is Coalition Support Funds, which reimburses the Pakistan military for counter insurgency operations in the tribal areas along the Afghanistan border. Over the last decade, US media reports have extensively documented that the Pakistan military has been submitting inflated expense reports to claim more money.
    'Pakistan to get first call on US military leftovers in Afghanistan' | Business Standard
     
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    The idea that Obama is a Muslim is absurd.:rolleyes:
     
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    @W.G.Ewald I guess it would sound like 'flame baiting' if I asked you how US under Republicans would have handled their withdrawal, and that is, if they would do it under these circumstances? :)

    IMO, the Americans have been 'lazy' in their planning in Afghanistan. I haven't really understood the point of declaring a withdrawal date in advance. They could have just withdrawn one fine day, they didnt even have to call it a withdrawal! Taliban is currently in state where it probably doesn't have the strength to take over Afg convincingly. But they aren't that weak either, where they can be run over by the ANA. All thanks to their support base well entrenched in Pakistan. Bad timing by the Americans!

    It's in these situations that an organisation full of nutcases can become more dangerous. More so to their neighbors than to the Afghans or the Americans. Hopefully, Taliban will focus their energy on helping their Taliban brothers in Pakistan rather than try out something else.

    To top it on the immense work done by the ISI in convincing the Americans that there were indeed good terrorists and bad ones, they re now being handed leftovers! Any other national might have cringed at having to use the word 'leftover', but it's just a matter of taste! So lets not focus on that but on how it would affect Pakistan and the region.
     
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    apart from military vehicle i dont think there are something else of worth pakistan will get
     
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    well you should not accept anything from amerika. Self-respect ka sawaal ha
     
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    well most of the stuff will be send to china by pakis , chinis knows the worth, coz they gonnna reverse engineer lot of stuff.
     
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    Good point. What I meant was that the president leaves himself open to criticism from the fringe with this decision.

    I thought the campaign was absurd from the beginning (sending Marines to a land-locked country) and thought the mission could have been accomplished with drones, air strikes, and limited special ops. But we Yanks must do our "nation-building."
     
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    (sending Marines to a land-locked country) :rofl: great quip, Sir.
     
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    what if all these free bees, you guys still lose war...........................

    It happen earlier and it will happen in future.................
     
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    Pakistan to get first call on US military leftovers in Afghanistan

    says it all:taunt::taunt::taunt:
     
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    Given the 250+ nuclear warheads between them, both India and Pakistan would lose any hypothetical mutual war.
     
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    didnt they lose Kargil war.......... so your theory falls flat on face.
     
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    peak 5353 was not under control of pak but now is.

    So we capture atleast something.
     
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    you only captured world condemnation and marshal law
     
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    we kick your ass big time in kargil war and you are holding on to a peak and trying to find our road. BTW you guys captured empty peak.
     
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    we captured the peak which infact was under your control.

    War is won by taking the land not by the death toll count.

    Otherwise we than had won the 2001-02 standoff where we lost 17-18 soldiers compared to india 1800+.
     
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    You captured humiliation, criticism and a tag of famous for all wrongful reasons, thus you earn your amount of res:facepalm:pect
     
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    :toilet::toilet::toilet::sarc:
     
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    Point is not India, here their is freedom of press, but you have a liar sitting even in the top job of your nation, some times calling your cadre non state actor, some times independent freedom fighter, some times moral support delivered only and some times shamelessly accepting dead bodies of your army troops who got KIA who were previously denied as Pakistani soldiers and some time assuring to take action of you morally supported terrorist not to offer them safe heavens and training camps, your cant expect a transparent tally from such Islamic terrorists.
     

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