Pakistan Military Developments

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  1. A.V.

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    Gilani hopeful for support in EU on trade issues

    ISLAMABAD, Mar 24 (APP): Prime Minister Syed Yusuf Raza Gilani expressed the hope that the Czech Government would continue to support Pakistan�s case in the EU for institutionalization of Pakistan-EU Summit process, enhanced market access through GSP Plus facilities and for initiation of negotiations on FTA between Pakistan and the EU.

    The Prime Minister was talking to Martin Bartak, Deputy Prime Minister & Minister of Defence of the Czech Republic, who along with his delegation called on him this afternoon.
    He appreciated Czech Republic�s important lead role as the rotating Chair of European Union in 2009, for arranging the first Pakistan-EU Summit.
    The Prime Minister expressed his satisfaction on signing of the MoU between the two countries on Defence Cooperation and hoped that it will open new vistas of cooperation in defence production, joint ventures in Defence and in training fields.
    The Prime Minister said that Pakistan could be interested in L-159 Trainer Jets being produced in the Czech Republic with the US collaboration and in upgradation of MI-17 helicopters at the Czech defence facilities.
    The Prime Minister said it was gratifying to note that the bilateral trade between the two countries had tripled in three years� period. That trend was reflective of the fact that a vast untapped potential still existed for further trade expansion.
    He called for concerted measures by both the sides for focusing on this area.
    He also identified power generation, particularly the solar and hydel power, mining, oil and gas exploration, education and science and technology sectors for future collaboration between the two countries.
    Recalling his meetings with the former Czech Deputy Prime Minister in Beijing in 2008 and Czech President in Davos in January 2009, the Prime Minister proposed regular high level visits between the two countries including exchanges of parliamentary delegations for strengthening of the bilateral ties and imparting new impetus for cooperation in diversified areas.
    The Czech Deputy Prime Minister & Minister of Defence underlined the importance his country attaches to fostering ever stronger ties with Pakistan and termed Pakistan�s role as pivotal in the war against terror as well as in restoration of peace and stability in Afghanistan.
    He reiterated the view held by his President at the First Pakistan-EU Summit that trade was more important than aid for development of Czech Republic itself and assured the Prime Minister of his country�s consistent support in the EU for greater market access to Pakistani products.
    The Czech Deputy Premier and Defence Minister conveyed the willingness of his Government to consider joint ventures and increased business in defence production through sale of equipment including the L-159 Trainer Jets.
    He invited the Pakistani defence delegation as well as technical experts to visit Prague to have a first-hand experience of the Czech defence production and defence equipment overhaul facilities to take forward the proposals of collaboration in these fields in the future.
    He also agreed with the Prime Minister on the need for focusing on expansion of trade, and cooperation in economic, science & technology and research training by stating that Czech side was ready to assist Pakistan in these areas to the extent possible.
    The visit of experts in various fields to Prague could explore opportunities for expanding trade and economic cooperation.



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  3. Armand2REP

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    Didn't Pakistan just send us a reparation demand? Now they want trainers. I guess they want them as part of an aid package.
     
  4. notinlove

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    Pakistan Navy to buy seven submarines

    Pakistan Navy is in discussions with China and France to acquire seven latest conventional submarines, negotiations with Germany to purchase three U-214 is also on cards.

    Chinese version offers economical price of around $230 million for each boat.

    To negotiate with French DCN Company for Marline Submarines, a high level naval delegation will visit France on April 27.

    Reliable sources from Pakistan Navy told DawnNews that after three years of continuous negotiations with Germany PN has decided to avail some other options as well for acquiring next-generation submarines.

    Sources maintained that Islamabad is deeply interested in acquiring four Chinese Yuan and Song Class and three French Marlin class latest diesel electric conventional versions in a bid to meet any challenge from the rapidly expanding Indian navy.

    Initially German company HDW had drawn up technical specifications for three U-214 boats and a billion dollars contract also intact and was almost final.—DawnNews

    http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect...akistan/16-navy+to+buy+seven+submarines-hs-04
     
  5. Solid Beast

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    Everyone say good bye to U-214 deal. Finally signs surface that the deal went nowhere as I knew all along.

    With regards to Marlin...this is funny. There's not even a static 3-D model available.
     
  6. Solid Beast

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    Chinese subs are about 25 years behind European diesel electric subs.
     
  7. ajtr

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    Pakistan plans to buy 14 more F-16 jets from US

    ISLAMABAD: Pakistan is negotiating with the United States to buy 14 additional F-16 fighter planes, Pakistan defence officials said on Sunday, following talks aimed at reversing tempestuous ties between the allies.

    The United States and Pakistan have agreed to fast-track pending Pakistani requests for military equipment as the two step up security cooperation, Pakistan's foreign minister said on Wednesday during a high-profile visit to Washington.

    A senior Pakistani defence official told Reuters that Pakistan was asking for 14 new F-16 planes.

    “Talks are underway and we're hoping to get them at a low price,” the official, who requested not to be identified, said.

    Pakistan is an important US ally in the battle against al Qaeda and the Taliban in neighbouring Afghanistan.

    The United States has provided F-16 fighter jets to Islamabad and Pakistan's navy chief was in Washington this month to discuss the handover in August of a refurbished US frigate.

    Washington said this month it would deliver 1,000 laser-guided bomb kits to Pakistan within weeks and is considering more weapons sales to help the Pakistani air force crack down on insurgents in the Afghanistan border region.

    In early 2010, the United States approved the delivery of 12 Lockheed Martin Corp's F-16C and 6 F-16D planes, scheduled to begin from June 2010.

    This delivery to Pakistan will bring its inventory of the planes to 54. If a new deal is approved, Pakistan's arsenal of F-16s, including refurbished fighters, will amount to 79, defence officials said. Pakistan has been operating F-16s since 1982.

    Another official said Pakistan's interest in new F-16s was a bid to match India's firepower.

    “Look at the rival (India). How many fighter jets they are purchasing and if you're getting them at a low price then why not?” he said.

    India plans to buy 126 air and ground attack fighters, which will elevate its air force to super-power status, with deployments planned near the borders with Pakistan and China, officials say.

    One bone of contention between Washington and Islamabad has been a delay in about $2 billion in military aid owed by the United States to Pakistan under a programme called the Coalition Support Fund.

    Pakistani Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi said a “substantial” amount of the money would be paid by the end of April, with Washington promising the remainder by the end of June.

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    PAF ready to thwart Indian designs: air chief

    ISLAMABAD: Pakistan has made it emphatically clear that it is fully capable of responding to the so-called Indian ‘Cold Start Doctrine’ befittingly.

    If the Indians opt to drop a few bombs close to the areas with the borders, the response would be even harsher and forthcoming in no time. The Indian doctrine is ridiculous. “Pakistan has put all the required preparations in place to meet any eventuality. The aggressor could not even think of what the reply would be from Pakistan. The Pakistan Air Force (PAF) has kept its assets for thwarting conventional threats from the force devoted to deal with the terrorists.”

    The announcement came from Chief of the Air Staff Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman at the Air Headquarters here on Saturday while replying to queries of newsmen during his briefing pertaining to the ongoing air exercise, High Mark-2010.

    The air chief, in his about two-hour-long formal and informal briefing, told the media that preparedness and maintaining potential to frustrate any aggression was the right of every country that wished to live with dignity and honour.

    The air chief, who was in high spirits and replied a volley of questions about the external threats from air, said any surgical strike by India would not go unanswered as the reaction time for both the countries in an air action was so short that in peace times, such activities could not be checked in a definite manner.

    The air chief, who took part in the exercise by flying a French-made Mirage plane, would be flying the multi-role most sophisticated US-made F-16 in a day or two while taking part in ‘operation’.

    He told the media that the US had agreed to provide another 14 F-16 fighter planes to Pakistan. These block-52 planes would be apart from the other 18 planes of the same calibre that would start reaching Pakistan from July this year and supply of the batch would be completed in December next. The planes will be equipped with the video and voice recorder (VVR) system rarely provided by the US to other countries, which is a high-resolution cockpit system that places a record of the HUD video, head-down displays, pilot voice and digital data bus information on a TEAC recorder.

    With this, the number of the F-16 planes, being received from the US till the end of the year, would reach 30, besides the upgrading of the existing planes, acquired in the 1980s. He said the PAF was capable of thwarting both the conventional and unconventional threats from the enemy. He said Pakistan’s missile system was in the best shape and “our all the systems are well tested.”

    The air chief said the PAF was focusing on its preparedness and taking stock of its preparations according to the modern trends. The area of the ongoing exercise is covering the entire country, from Skardu in the north to the Arabian Sea in the south. It included joint cooperation, with an extensive participation from the Army and the Navy, which would further enhance the joint operations, integration and cooperation amongst the three services.

    The High Mark-2010 is aimed at conducting an operation in the near-realistic tactical environment while integrating the new inductions and providing a role-oriented training to combat and support elements of the PAF. The exercise is designed to achieve stipulated objectives, with a special emphasis on exposing the PAF combat crew to stimulated air battles, based on contemporary concepts. The air chief said all the main operating bases and forward operating bases were participating in the exercise.

    New inductions like the JF-17 Thunder aircraft, jointly manufactured by Pakistan and China, force multipliers such as Saab-2000 Airborne Early Warning and Control (AEW&C) aircraft and air-to-air refueler aircraft are participating in the exercise for the first time. The exercise in question is the PAF’s biggest operational event, which is being conducted after five years.

    The air chief said the ever-changing geo-political environment in the region demanded a change in the employment concepts and doctrine in the application of air power, with an emphasis on joint operations. The exercise High Mark-2010 would provide the PAF an opportunity to validate these concepts, which are vital for the overall defence of the motherland, he said.

    Answering a question, Rao Qamar Suleman said Pakistan was cognisant of the Indian designs and war preparedness, as it was acquiring the weapon system from all over the world. The air chief said the PAF had developed its own drones and they were being manufactured in the Kamra facility.

    Pakistan is not interested in buying the US drones, but it is keen to purchase sensors for its own drones. The US has not provided its drone technology to any country of the world, except Italy, where they are also operated by the US technicians.

    The air chief parried a query about the flight base of the US drones, targeting the tribal areas, and said the Americans returned the control of Shahbaz and Pasni bases back in 2002. No PAF base is in the control of the US forces, he maintained.

    He expressed his ignorance over the control of the Shamsi base and said it was neither being used by the PAF, nor the Pakistan Army. The base does not belong to the PAF. “I don’t know about the control of the Shamsi base,” he said while replying to a question about its control and its use by the Americans for the flight of drones.

    The newsmen were also shown the most modern central security system in place, linked to all the facilities. It is controlled and monitored at a central base on a round-the-clock basis. The PAF has also acquired the US-made road scanners, which could easily detect any bypassing vehicle with weapons or ammunition. The system is working well and efficiently, as the security threat perception has increased for the PAF installations in the wake of use of air power against the militants in the areas adjoined to the border with Afghanistan.
     
  9. ajtr

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    'Pak's sound strategy prevented Indian strike after 26/11'

    Pakistan's sound strategy to ward off threats like a possible surgical strike by India [ Images ] had barred the "adversary" from opting for any "extreme option" in the wake of the Mumbai [ Images ] attacks, Pakistan's air force chief said on Saturday.

    Asked during a news briefing about India's reported plans of carrying out surgical strikes in the wake of the 2008 Mumbai incident, Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman said the Pakistan Air Force had "immediately developed a strategy to counter the threat, which barred the adversary (from opting) for any extreme option".

    "Our response time during such situations is from two to six minutes from the ground," he told the briefing held at the air headquarters here.

    The "adversary did not dare to take any step" since it knew the capability of the PAF, he said.

    The PAF is keeping a "watchful eye to safeguard the frontiers of the country" and effective systems are in place to cope with any situation, Suleman said.

    Responding to another question, Suleman said the US-led coalition forces in Afghanistan "hardly commit any violation of Pakistan's airspace".

    Pakistan has always strongly protested any airspace violation by the coalition forces, he added.

    On the other hand, Pakistan and India reached a mutual agreement in 1991 not to enter the airspace 10 km from the border to avoid any violations, he said.

    There is no threat from Pakistan's western border while a sizeable number of aircraft are continuously guarding the eastern border, Suleman said.
     
  10. gogbot

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    So the weekly drone strikes are a figment of our imagination.
     
  11. Dark_Prince

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    Drones May Ship to Pakistan 'Within a Year': DoD

    Drones May Ship to Pakistan 'Within a Year': DoD


    WASHINGTON - The Pentagon hopes "within a year" to deliver around a dozen unarmed drone aircraft to Pakistan to aid its fight against Islamic extremism, a U.S. senior military official said March 29.

    "I would like to think that we would get them there within a year, but quantity and so forth, I think, will depend on what are the right ones, and how many make sense for the fight that they're in," said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.


    The official told reporters that while the United States is looking at sending about a dozen aircraft to Islamabad, the actual number of drone aircraft "could be more or less, depending on the need."

    "What we are trying to do is get with them to be able to articulate the requirements of what they need," the official said.

    Efforts are underway by U.S. officials to "match the right equipment to the requirements. That's what we are trying to work them through."

    Pakistan previously has also urged Washington to outfit its military with armed aerial vehicles like the Predator and Reaper.

    U.S. drone missile strikes against Al-Qaeda and Taliban figures in Pakistan have fueled anti-American sentiment because of civilian casualties, and drawn public condemnation from the government in Islamabad.

    The United States has carried out nearly 100 attacks with unmanned drones in Pakistan since August 2008, killing more than 830 people. Figures range widely on how many civilians have been killed.

    The unnamed official said Washington could supply around a dozen smaller, unarmed Shadow drones to Islamabad, to help with their surveillance and reconnaissance activities.

    "We looked at Shadows, we looked at ScanEagles," among other drones, the official said. "Shadow drones may in fact be the right platform at the end of the day."

    Shadow drones - smaller than the armed Predator and Reaper aircraft - are about 11 feet (three meters) long and have a wing-span of 14-feet (4.3 meters) with sensors and cameras feeding video images back to operators on the ground.

    Pakistan's military already has some drones of its own production which it uses for surveillance, but which are less sophisticated than those manufactured by the United States.

    Last week, Pakistan's foreign minister said the United States would improve its public standing if it let Islamabad spearhead armed drone attacks.

    Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi, in Washington for high-level talks, acknowledged in a CNN interview that drone attacks by U.S. forces against Islamic extremists on Pakistani soil have "taken out some valuable targets."

    But he said: "The issue of sovereignty is there. People of Pakistan feel strongly about it.

    "We want the ownership. We make the decision when to operate," he said. "It will help improve the feelings in Pakistan," he said.

    http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4559754&c=ASI&s=TOP
     
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    Technically that isn't a violation of Pakistani airspace as the American drones are reported to take off from Pakistani airfields!
     
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    Delusion at its height!

    Pakistani military officials fool their stupid awam to core with worthless propaganda, they give a delusion to pakistani kids and fanboys that they are buying F-16s from USA!! Hhahahahha this is Funny Dementia after open acceptance of Kerry Lugal Bill!!


    Pakistani strategy prevented Surgical Strikes after 26/11? How? Ans. Not by any strategy, BUT by admitting Guilty to 26/11 Ghastly Crimes!!

    Funny, pakistan is ready to thwart Indian air offensive?? How? Ans. Surely not with its vintage Chinese Chengdu, nanchangs, and other vintage F-16s. Do these deluded war mongerers have any idea of Indian Air Power, or they are relying on future American AID and chinese low grade reverse engineered, low budget flying gliders; if yes, then these schizophrenics are forgeting Indian Acquisitions which are far more superior both in quality and quantity! /////////
     
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    What happem to there proud to buy chinese anthum which they always sing
     
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    china not giving soft loan
     
  16. Armand2REP

    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    China must be broke if they can't offer their chums a gift weapon.
     
  17. Solid Beast

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    China's not broke, the reality is only Pakistan sees them as an all weather friend of divine nature. The GoP justification : "Even God doesn't answer all our prayers."
     
  18. Vikramaditya

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    China means business,they earn lots of profit from pakistan through one sided trade.
     
  19. Solid Beast

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    We are just a pearl for them, and a market that is suitable for a communist government to strong arm their goods into. You are right.
     
  20. Armand2REP

    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    I beg to differ. They no longer offer only ally reduced price weapons. Nor do they offer strategic SA countries with low rate loans, ie Ecuador.
     
  21. JAISWAL

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    OMG plz dont compaer them to god.
    now according to ur Def----.p- china-pak brotherhood is realiable so y buy else where
     
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