Pakistan is a Failed State

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  1. I-G

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    Pakistan remains among top 10 'failed states': Report

    Washington, June 28: Pakistan, split in the middle with terrorist attacks and facing an economic crisis, remains among the top 10 failed states, says an index prepared by the renowned Foreign Policy journal.

    The country, placed ninth among all countries last year in terms of its overall achievement, has improved its position only by a notch - it is placed 10th in the index for 2009 published in the July-August issue of the journal.

    The annual exercise, now in its fifth year, is carried out by the journal and Fund for Peace, an independent research organisation.

    The ranking is done on the basis of the following factors: demographic pressure, refugees/internally displaced persons (IDPs), group grievance, uneven development, economic decline, delegitimisation of the state, public service, human rights, factionalised elites and external intervention.

    The top 10 failed states in the latest list are: Somalia, Zimbabwe, Sudan, Chad, Democratic Republic of Congo, Iraq, Afghanistan, Central African Republic, Guinea and Pakistan.

    India is placed 87th among the 177 countries under study, with its score showing an improvement over the previous year. But its neighbours fare badly in this ranking, with Sri Lanka placed 12th, Bangladesh 19th and Nepal 25th.

    At the other end of the spectrum, the bottom 10 in the list are the top achievers: Norway, Finland, Sweden, Switzerland, Ireland, Denmark, New Zealand, Australia and the Netherlands.

    Foreign Policy noted that it is "a sobering time" for the world's most fragile countries, what with the global financial meltdown, natural disasters, and government collapse.

    "Yemen may not yet be front-page news, but it's being watched intently these days in capitals worldwide. A perfect storm of state failure is now brewing there... Many worry Yemen is the next Afghanistan: a global problem wrapped in a failed state.

    "It's not just Yemen. The financial crisis was a near-death experience for insurgency-plagued Pakistan, which remains on IMF life support...All indications are that 2009 will bring little to no reprieve," the journal said.

    Pakistan remains among top 10 `failed states`
     
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  3. LETHALFORCE

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    Pakistan takes top slot among 10 failed nations

    Pakistan takes top slot among 10 failed nations

    Pakistan takes top slot among 10 failed nations


    Washington: Pakistan, split in the middle with terrorist attacks and facing an economic crisis, remains among the top 10 failed states, says an index prepared by the renowned Foreign Policy journal.

    The country, placed ninth among all countries last year in terms of its overall achievement, has improved its position only by a notch – it is placed 10th in the index for 2009 published in the July-August issue of the journal.

    The annual exercise, now in its fifth year, is carried out by the journal and Fund for Peace, an independent research organisation.

    The ranking is done on the basis of the following factors: demographic pressure, refugees/internally displaced persons (IDPs), group grievance, uneven development, economic decline, delegitimisation of the state, public service, human rights, factionalised elites and external intervention.

    The top 10 failed states in the latest list are: Somalia, Zimbabwe, Sudan, Chad, Democratic Republic of Congo, Iraq, Afghanistan, Central African Republic, Guinea and Pakistan.


    At the other end of the spectrum, the bottom 10 in the list are the top achievers: Norway, Finland, Sweden, Switzerland, Ireland, Denmark, New Zealand, Australia and the Netherlands.

    Foreign Policy noted that it is "a sobering time" for the world's most fragile countries, what with the global financial meltdown, natural disasters, and government collapse.

    "Yemen may not yet be front-page news, but it's being watched intently these days in capitals worldwide. A perfect storm of state failure is now brewing there... Many worry Yemen is the next Afghanistan: a global problem wrapped in a failed state.

    "It's not just Yemen. The financial crisis was a near-death experience for insurgency-plagued Pakistan, which remains on IMF life support...All indications are that 2009 will bring little to no reprieve," the journal said.
     
  4. VayuSena1

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    This is a rather old news considering Pakistan's economic condition and also the security situation in that country. Instead of focusing on developing a foundation for the economy, it chooses to compete with Indian economy for arms race. Apart from this, there is also the issue of state-sponsored terrorism against Indian security forces.

    If this is the situation everytime, how can they ever improve?
     
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    Is this news?
    Not surprising since it's a country with such an abundance of terrorists and terror activities that it should be made a trade item considering how much aid it brings in.
     
  6. LETHALFORCE

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    They are also in the top 10 being rewarded for their failure.
     
  7. Rage

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    Here is the lo-down on the latest iteration of Pakistan's singular greatest achievement: consistently landing a slot on the world's most decrepit states list: this time with even greater honours.

    Reserve that seat for the 'Land of the Pure and the Free' please!



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    Pakistan tenth on ‘failed states’ list

    * Somalia, Zimbabwe and Chad top the global index

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    Daily Times Monitor
    Monday, June 29, 2009


    LAHORE: Pakistan, split down the middle with terrorist attacks and facing an economic crisis, remains among the top 10 failed states, according to an index prepared by the Foreign Policy Journal.

    Placed ninth among all countries last year in terms of its overall achievement, Pakistan’s position has improved only by one notch - it is placed 10th in the index for 2009 published in the July-August issue of the journal.

    The annual exercise, now in its fifth year, is carried out by the journal and the Fund for Peace, an independent research organisation.

    The ranking is decided on the basis of the following factors: demographic pressure, refugees/internally displaced persons (IDPs), group grievance, uneven development, economic decline, delegitimisation of the state, public service, human rights, factionalised elites and external intervention.

    The top 10 failed states on the latest list are: Somalia, Zimbabwe, Sudan, Chad, Democratic Republic of Congo, Iraq, Afghanistan, Central African Republic, Guinea and Pakistan.

    Neighbouring India is placed 87th among the 177 countries under study, with its score showing an improvement over the previous year. But others in the region are not faring any better. Sri Lanka is placed 12th, Bangladesh 19th and Nepal 25th.

    At the other end of the spectrum, the bottom 10 in the list are the top achievers: Norway, Finland, Sweden, Switzerland, Ireland, Denmark, New Zealand, Australia and the Netherlands.


    Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan
     
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    Pakistan: failed nation or terrorist state

    The common opinion emerging on Pakistan’s role in aiding and abetting terrorists clearly suggests that the country should be officially declared as a terrorist state. The US operation in Abbottabad leading to the elimination of Osama Bin Laden, the world’s most wanted criminal has proved beyond any doubt that the head of al Qaeda could not have lived in Pakistan without the knowledge and help of the authorities. Noted author Salman Rushdie has already asked for Pakistan’s expulsion from the comity of Nations and western powers are not prepared to go by the official explanation that the government or its agencies were oblivious of Osama’s presence on their soil.

    It needs little common sense to infer that the safe House or the Mansion where Osama lived did not come out of thin air but was built in the Garrison town with full knowledge of the military authorities that are in actual control of the government there. The civilian administration is just a mere front since sham democracy prevails in Pakistan.

    Therefore the onus of trying to come clean lies with the Army and its intelligence wing, the Inter State Intelligence but the evidence and circumstances are not going to make matters any better for the whole Nation. We in India know that Pakistan has been the epicenter of terrorism for long beginning from the attack of the tribals on Kashmir in the late forties. The country’s complicity was established beyond any doubt going by the assistance received by Sikh ultras and now Kashmiri militants from across the border. Repeated attacks by Lashkar militants on India have exposed the demonic side of the government which has not been able to reconcile itself from its second partition during the Bangla Desh war and 1971 operations conducted under the Prime Ministership of Indira Gandhi.

    We have all been very familiar with the ways and style of the Pakistanis but it is the Americans who never believed in New Delhi’s view about Islamabad. But since they have tasted it directly now, the US perception could undergo a change subsequently.

    While Pakistan has a lot of answering to do about Osama’s presence in Abbottabad, the United States too should lay to rest speculation about Osama’s death by releasing photographs of his body. There are more than a number of people who believe that Osama is not dead but was captured alive and taken to the United States. At least they will stop talking in this manner if the photographic evidence is presented. There are other conspiracy theories also doing the rounds and they should not be allowed to gain credence if the Americans share some more details about the operation.

    There are some who doubt that Osama was buried at sea with Islamic rites and wonder how could a Muslim holy man be produced aboard a US naval ship in such a short time frame. There are others who doubt that the capturing or killing of Osama took place much earlier and the final day shooting was just to create deception. Some wonder how the Pakistani military did not get wind of Helicopters intruding into their air space and why Air Force Planes did not hover in the sky while the operation was reportedly in progress.

    There is no doubt in my mind that Osama and people like him should be tracked down and eliminated but the security forces must share evidence of their death with the world.

    The second question that needs to be addressed is that some sections are attempting to make Osama a cult figure and are planning to have prayers for him in several mosques. Prayers should be for the Holy and not the Diabolic. Indian leaders should also refrain from trying to draw political capital from what happened in Abbottabad. Pakistan must realize that it is going in the wrong direction and if it has to survive as part of the world, which goes by the rule of law, it has to give up its undesirable activities. It is a failed Nation, which needs to pass the test to be regarded as part of the global fight against terrorism. To me it seems that the days of both Asif Zardari as the President and Ashfaq Kiyani as the Army chief are numbered.

    An interesting sidelight to the entire incident is that my friend, noted astrologer Bharat Upmanyu in an email dated September 21, 2010 to President Obama had stated that Osama Bin Laden was in Muzaffarbad or in the vicinity of Pakistan Occupied Kashmir. Abbottabad is merely 30 kilometres as the crow flies from the Pakistan Occupied Kashmir territory. I think it was remarkable accuracy and speaks volumes about Bharat’s ability to predict.


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  9. The Messiah

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    They are not failed state.
     
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    Well, they are a definitely a failing state.. Problem is, Pakistan is also a Nuclear state. The world nations do not want a nuclear Pakistan to become a rogue terrorist state like North Korea.. So they pamper and support Pakistan, often turning a blind eye to its terrorism exports, hoping it wouldnt become a failed state..
     
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    they are in exclusive group of nations called F10.... and they world conspiring by bringing in India in G20
     
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    they are failed state because they are terrorists and they are terrorists because they are failed state: it is vicious cycle. both are complementing and supplement each other.
     
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    pakistan is Both filthy Failed and a demonic savage Terrorist State!
     
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    they are both and it interelated ,they are failed as they are the biggest supplier of terrrism to outside world and they nartchure terrorist to implement their foreign pollicy and objective ,but they didnot knw thet were playing with fire ,now the fire is ready to engulf the host itself .
     
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    How are they a failed state ?

    They want to be militaristic state with less civil rights. what makes you think they dont want to be a terrorist state ?

    They would only be a failed state if they were a open secular society before which they never were.

    Perceptive! Stop seeing them through our standards.
     
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    Pak is neither a failed state nor a terrorist state because none of P-5 powers have passed any resolution to declare it as "terrorist" state in UN.Btw only coutry which want to see pakistan being declared as terrorists state is India.And clearly not many country agree with Indian stance.L-e-T and other assorted groups are strategic assest which cnat be term as teroorist unless they attack west or their interest otherwise their all attacks are permitted on India coz they are freedom fighters fighting against Indian state sponsored brutality and genocide of its muslim minority in Kashmir and all over India.
     
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    pak will do a mujra if uncle sam or chicoms ask and so will you if you want attention because thats what trolls do. ie post something absurd that will get reaction from a forum.

    :basanti:
     
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    we have a porki here !!! Welcome.... Hows taliban now a days ????
     
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    Both of the options wud be my answers... First of all partition of pakistan wasnt necessary.. Secondly.. Pak wasnt able to separate itself from india even after 60 yrs of separation... It was so pissed that it made india its natural enemy wwithout any provokation and hence the problem of taliban arose .... Which has destroyed pak completely and will soon do that with india.... There have been 2 bomb blasts in the last 6 months.... This is an early sign....
     
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    she is a troll and will post something that will cause a reaction...whether she herself really believes it or not is irrelevant.

    no point arguing with her....:)
     
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    I would say the title has the wrong conjunction. "or" should be "and".
     

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