No accord in South China Sea row

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  1. ice berg

    ice berg Senior Member Senior Member

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    No accord in South China Sea row - MSN UK News

    South-east Asian diplomats have failed to reach common ground on how to resolve a territorial dispute involving China, as a regional conference ended without a joint statement for the first time in the bloc's history.

    The unprecedented failure to come up with the joint communique in 45 years of the Association of South-east Asian Nations (Asean) underscores deep divisions within the 10-member bloc amid conflicting territorial claims in the South China Sea involving four of its members plus China and Taiwan.

    Asean Secretary-General Surin Pitsuwan of Thailand said the Philippines and Vietnam wanted the statement to include a reference to the recent stand-off between China and the Philippines at a shoal in the South China Sea claimed by both countries.

    The Philippines' foreign affairs department blamed host nation Cambodia for "consistently opposing any mention of the Scarborough Shoal at all" and for announcing that a joint communique cannot be issued.

    Cambodian foreign minister Hor Namhong said his government, which has close ties with China, does not support any side in the disputes. He said the failure to issue a statement lies with all Asean members, not just Cambodia.

    He told reporters: "I requested that we issue the joint communique without mention of the South China Sea dispute ... but some member countries repeatedly insisted (on) the issue of the Scarborough Shoal. I have told my colleagues that the meeting of the Asean foreign ministers is not a court, a place to give a verdict about the dispute."

    Asean's members announced earlier this week that they had drafted a set of rules governing maritime rights and navigation, and procedures for when governments disagree. But China is not a member of the group and did not agree to anything.

    The Asean countries presented their proposal to China at this week's conference in Cambodia's capital, though Beijing will probably want to tone down any restrictive language.

    The stand-off between China and the Philippines in the Scarborough Shoal began in April when the Philippines accused Chinese fishermen of poaching in its exclusive economic zone, including the shoal. During the tensions, both sides sent government ships to the area, though both have since withdrawn vessels.

    Vietnam has protested over a recent announcement by the China National Offshore Oil Corporation opening nine oil and gas lots for international bidders in areas overlapping with existing Vietnamese exploration blocks. Vietnam claims the lots lie entirely within its 200-nautical-mile exclusive economic zone and continental shelf.

    I am surprised that pundits didnt pick up this. :cool2:
     
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  3. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Where is the requirement of an accord?

    China will take what it wants by force!
     
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    Anybody interested in keeping peace over the SCS should not be happy about this development. Clearly, "Cambodia was bought".
     
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    This time Cambodia have not only proven the principle "Money make all" but also there are no place for legality, morality and friendship in normal life. Cambodia set a Record in Guiness book of : The unprecedented breaker the tradition of ASEAN Conference after 45 years of it's existence. By several senses, the role of the Chairman this time to be considered : Not accomplish !
     
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  6. Zero_Wing

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    Well we cant just blame cambodia for this they are still trying to fix their country sure they failed to uphold unite and they obviously bought by the evil chinese empire but again they needed the money china should be blame for everything in the west philippine sea
     
  7. Thai

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    China plot is clearly exposed :
    - Breaking the unity of ASEAN right from inside
    - Separating every ASEAN member by economic aids with very favourable conditions , no-refund aids (as the gifts !)
    - Bargaining for every case if possible
    When lacking the vigilance, the member role would be became a puppet , no more no less.
     
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    This is a very rare occurence. Normally the ASEAN always comes up with a unified statement. China has found the weak spot this time, Cambodia.
     
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    Ya, and Vietnamese are very angry about that.
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Cambodia was always a running dog of Communist China
     
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    Yes, ASEAN always comes up with a unified statement but rarely against any specific country.

    Nobody wants to take risk of confronting a big power (China or America) for the sake of Vietnam or Philipine interest.
     
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    So, what you mean is that Combodian and Thailand should support Vietnam and phillipine even they don't offer anything in return?
     
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    Everybody is angry about Cambodia's actions. I'm angry about it.
     
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    It's only a matter of time.
     
  15. Thai

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    ASEAN is a united organisation belong firstly to 10 members (actual) countries. China, USA,Japan ... etc are observers or counterparts.
    Any action governed directly from outside is considered intervene into internal affairs of ASEAN.
    All problems rised in ASEAN Conference must be discussed, resolved within these members until a Joint communique (JC) is carried out. Normally, this JC was made base on the reference from all ASEAN members. The task of the Chairman is to harmonising it by resolution (sometive the innnovation is needed) [As they did over 45 years ago].
    The recent problems is : Cambodia don't care to any tolerable opinion of the members even it's not from VN or Philippines (at least over dozen tolerable JC drafts have been submitted !). Everything were let to float (sometime to be submerged consciously !) until the time is over : The JC is impossible !
    But for Cambodia, this Mission is Possible and 100% meet the plan of China : Any JC which have any relation to East Sea must be blocked !
    Like an arithmetic which have the answer already before !
    We examine the problem in the Organisation view point , not by country-country point of view !
     
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    The unified statement in not about going against China or any country. The purpose was to be able to maintain a peaceful solution over the SCS security issues initiates by ASEAN as a bloc. What is wrong with that??? Security over the SCS is a major concern for ASEAN!! The JC is needed to address the issue so that all the drafted action plans during the ASEAN can be put into effect. And indeed the security issues over the SCS was discussed during the week long ASEAN meeting so what is the point of not issuing a JC. So that means, the purpose of the chair (Cambodiac) not coming up with one is to block whatever was agreed upon during the meeting.
     
  17. Zero_Wing

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    peace and freedom from your kind
     
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    Phillipines and Vietnam attempted to hijack ASEAN but failed.
     
  19. Thai

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    Philippines and Vietnam attempted to anti-hijack ASEAN but failed
     
  20. Zero_Wing

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    really or did you bought your allies
     

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