New missiles for the Indian navy

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  1. bengalraider

    bengalraider DFI Technocrat Stars and Ambassadors

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    Shiv Aroor just posted that the Indian Navy wants new medium range missiles

    Livefist: Indian Navy For New Medium Range Anti-Ship Missile

    the basic things we are looking for as per the RFI are
    1) A minimum range of 120km
    2) A maximum missile weight of 1000kg
    3) A minimum warhead weight of 100kg
    4) A velocity of approx 0.9 mach

    the latest and most alluring among these today are

    The Norwegian NAVAL STRIKE MISSILE(NSM)

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    Naval Strike Missile - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Naval Strike Missile - NSM - Kongsberg Gruppen

    The latest version of the MM40 EXOCET block 3

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    Exocet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    MBDA - e-catalogue

    SAAB RBS-15 Mk. III

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    RBS-15 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    RBS15 Mk3 – Surface-to-Surface Missile (SSM)

    MBDA OTOMAT
    MBDA - e-catalogue
     
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  3. Kunal Biswas

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    Why just 120km ? IN will have KH-35 ..

    So why there is a need for this ASM.. ?
     
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    sasi Senior Member Senior Member

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    I think they are replacing old stocks. Also replace missles in small vessels and for coastal defence.
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    The Norwegian NAVAL STRIKE MISSILE(NSM) looks cool with IIR seeker.
     
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  5. bengalraider

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    Maybe someone decided it was time we got some new western missile tech into out fleet as well, or maybe someone very very important got a big big box of "Mithai".:p
     
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    IIR not needed. Rfi seeks for active radar homing so no chances for NSM. Min speed shd be at least .9 mach more than both Exocet and Harpoon ( correct me if wrong ). Surface launched Exocet no more in production. So only RBS-15 Mk3 and Otomat left?
     
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  7. Kunal Biswas

    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    It is said only for Surface warships, Means >>

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    Its possibly an upgrade for older yet capable ships..
     
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    i think the new order is for smaller ships like corvettes,
    if Kamorta doesn't hav any anti-ship missile then probably for its successor classes.
    a single unit of BrahMos is very costly, so it might also be a cost cutting measure for any future ship classes lower than frigates and destroyers.
     
  9. Kunal Biswas

    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    May be compare to older Missles, But its cheaper to its western counterparts yet much better..

    The reason we are getting is coz we need small, PJ-10 are big and heavy..

     
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    Why can't we just develop a ship launched version of Brahmos III?
     
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    May be they want to induct it faster , so must be looking for a proven platform .

    Brahmos 3 is not ready , how are we going to make it's ship launched version ??
     
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    We still need to get rid of the SS-N-2 Styx on some ships. Abt fricking time too.
     
  13. Bheeshma

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    Though to be fair on Khukri, Godavari and Rajput classes carry the SS-N-2D. They will all retire by 2018-2022 time frame. I am not sure it makes sense to update these old ships. The new medium range ones might be for P-28A and smaller ships.
     
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    P28A is a dedicated ASW platform, it doesn't carry ASMs.
     
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    Why we have PTAE-7 turbojet, the Lakshya PTA experience, I would say fuk off this firangi tenderness and buy desi, just brainstorm DRDO scientist pay them instead of foreigners, such tender should be taken as interim solution till we have a local alternative.


    In the other hand a hypersonic 120 km class AShM seems like a deadly weapon.
     
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    Thats why I suggested Brahmos III. Even after buying foreign products, induction usually takes years, so why not wait a little more and buy Desi.
     
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    some articles say that kamorta class also has ASM, whether its true or not we'll only know when the 1st ship is inducted this yr,
    kamorta class r very lightly armed compared to their displacement, so it leaves u to wonder abt its armaments
    no P-28A ships hav been launched till date,
    P-28 r ASW corvettes, P-28A r in all probability will b bigger than kamorta class. so they might hav limited anti-shipping role.
    as Bheeshma suggested upgrading older ships which will soon face retirement with new order of missiles doesn't make sense,
    so these missile r probably for lighter ships which can't carry our primary ASM BrahMos.
     
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    Even i have the same doubt

    P-28 Corvettes were thought to be fitted with Klub missiles, But it doent show any Anti-Shipp missile VLS fitted in
     
  19. Bheeshma

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    The main role of P-28's will be ASW so Klub-91RE2 makes a lot of sense. But medium ranged AShM with 120 Km rane will also suffice.
     

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