NATO confirms Kabul-Delhi nexus to sabotage peace

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    Nato confirms Kabul-Delhi nexus to sabotage peace
    Detained TTP leader sings in US custody, reveals all...


    Ansar Abbasi
    Thursday, October 31, 2013

    ISLAMABAD: Amid some encouraging behind-the-scene developments in the dialogue process between the government and Taliban, Pakistan got an endorsement from the US-led Nato-ISAF top command about the existence of a nefarious Kabul-New Delhi nexus harbouring “safe havens” across the Durand Line. This nexus is being used for subversive activities inside Pakistan to derail the peace process.

    The recent arrest of Latifullah Mehsud, the TTP’s second incommand, by the US forces and his subsequent interrogation has in particular badly exposed how Kabul has been fueling terrorism inside Pakistan by exploiting certain militant elements amongst the Pakistani Taliban.


    Informed sources said that not only it has been confirmed that the recent attack on Maj General Sanaullah Khan Niazi and two other army men in Upper Dir was the work of Kabul and New Delhi but the later attacks on the Peshawar Church, in Qissa Khwani Bazaar and on an official bus of the Peshawar Secretariat were masterminded by the same nexus and by using the local militants.

    Pakistani authorities have a lot to share in regard to the recent post-APC terrorist attacks but it is deliberately not making such information public to ensure that the peace process does not get derailed.

    What is, however, seen as encouraging for Pakistan is the fact that the US-led Nato ISAF commanders have confirmed that there does exist “safe havens” across the Durand Line where some Pakistani militants are trained and equipped to launch subversive activities inside Pakistan.

    The recent arrest of TTP’s second-in-command Latifullah Mehsud by the US-led Nato-troops and his subsequent interrogation has endorsed the Pakistani viewpoint on how the Kabul-New Delhi nexus was actively involved in terrorism inside Pakistan.

    Shortly before his recent capture by the US-troops, it is said that Latifullah Mehsud had met key figures in Kabul, including top Afghan intelligence officials. According to reports, Latifullah Mehsud was arrested by American forces as he was driving along a main highway in eastern Logar province’s district of Mohammad Agha. It is said that American forces seized Mehsud while he was with the Afghan army.

    Although, Pakistan has opted to keep silent on the issue, the New York Times on Wednesday reported how the US raid in Afghanistan exposed Kabul’s plan to turn the tables on the Pakistan Army.

    The report said that a bungled attempt by the Afghan government to cultivate a shadowy alliance with Pakistani militants escalated into the latest flashpoint in the troubled relationship between Afghanistan and the US.

    “Tipped off about the scheme, United States Special Forces raided an Afghan convoy that was ushering a senior Pakistani Taliban militant, Latif Mehsud, to Kabul for secret talks last month, and now have Mr Mehsud in custody,” the report said, adding: “Publicly, the Afghan government has described Mr Mehsud as an insurgent peace emissary. But according to Afghan officials, the ultimate plan was to take revenge on the Pakistani military.”

    Kabul is really upset over this American forces raid and due to what a source called “singing” of Latif Mehsud. Aimal Faizi, a spokesman for Mr Karzai, is reported by the New York Times to have admitted, “Mr Mehsud had been in contact with officials from the National Directorate of Security, Afghanistan’s Intelligence agency, for ‘a long period of time’.”

    “The Pakistani Taliban leader ‘was part of the NDS project like every other intelligence agency is doing,” Faizi said in an apparent reference to the support provided in the Afghan Taliban by Pakistani intelligence. He added, “He (Mehsud) was cooperating. He was engaged with the NDS — this I can confirm.”

    These developments are an endorsement of Pakistan’s viewpoint that external hands are involved in terrorism and no less than Washington has now undeniable proofs, but for the sake of the dialogue process Islamabad is careful.

    As hinted by the Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan, groundwork for a formal initiation of the dialogue process has almost been completed and within the next few days some major development towards the dialogue process would take place.

    Indirect contacts have already been established and those involved in the facilitation process sound optimistic. The government is keen to pursue the option of dialogue despite serious challenges and major hiccups whereas different militant groups are also prepared to positively respond to the government’s peace initiative.

    To pre-empt conspiracies of those out to derail the peace process, not much is being made public. Though for others nothing has moved since the All Parties Conference, a lot has been happening behind the scenes and now the stage has come where a formal initiation of the dialogue process would be kickstarted.

    Souce: Nato confirms Kabul-Delhi nexus to sabotage peace - thenews.com.pk
     
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  3. Neo

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    This sounds like it would be a good plot line for WAAR2 :lol:
     
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    Soviet war is 1, US war is 2, may now you should call this Waarr-3!!!!
     
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    When NATO has no-say in Pakistan's nefarious designs of creating unrest in J&K then they shouldn't have any in this one.

    NATO should shut the ---- up it thinks it has cracked some alleged India Kabul link against Pakistan.
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    Having said that, such sensational revelations from Pakistani sources and authors are even worst that Pakistani stage dramas.
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    American disruption of Afghanistan's tack on Islamists to keep a check on Pakistan or making a peace with them may be is of US's concern because they aid dollars to Afghanistan government, but it should be hardly a brownie point for Pakistan because they themselves can not handle their own Islamic groups and are bending many times a day to negotiate a ceasefire with them. Afghans have all the right to make a peace with them.
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    Such articles are highly subjective, represent Pakistan's point of view. I don't think it can impress Indians, change our perceptions or even make us defensive.
     
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    Only the Pakistani media seems to be cooking up the New Delhi story, nothing of the sort gets reported by the New York Times.

    That aside, I for one am all in favour of this peace deal. What was never allowed to happen in Pakistan all these years, has very successfully happened by this peace process and Imran Khan’s insistence on having the peace process, Imran has brought an otherwise marginalised section of society, the Taliban, right in the main stream of politics and in turn they have captured the imagination of the people unlike ever before. The Taliban are today very much a legitimate party in Pakistan.

    After Zia-ul-Haq and Afghanistan Jihad of 80’s, if there is anyone person and event who and which have made the Pakistanis turn more to the religious right, it is Imran and this peace deal, and after a very long time and only the 2nd time in Pakistan’s history, the Pakistan Army has been felt as marginalized.

    If this peace process does become successful, you would have a far more radicalized country which works extremely well in India’s interests. Interestingly, this chakravihu has been worked around by the Pkaistanis themselves, and they will find it extremely hard to get out of it, definitely not from the end result of this, a far more fanatic populace.
     
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    At their creative best. Nothing in western news.
     
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    ISI clearly knows that it is USA led WOT is the main reason for the bloodshed that is going on in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

    Only thing that amuses me is that , who is commanding them to point fingers towards India??
     
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    :clap::popcorn::bhangra::india:

    :cowboy::peace:HOMIES:taunt1::eyebrows:
     
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    Interesting.

    Looking at both the quoted text it seems that more than one commander who are the senior-most in command have given out statements confirming what the author writes.

    1. But, what are their actual statements is not provided.

    2. Where they were issuing the statements is not provided.

    3. To whom these statements were given were given is not provided in the article.

    So, can we conclude these statements were given by different commanders at different instances or not? If yes when and where? If not why all of them issues statements or confided at a single place on a single topic?

    So, can we conclude all of the commanders issued statement or confided with a single journalist or multiple journalist? If it were multiple journalists or persons why did they they again provided the exclusive information to the writer of this article and not multiple sources? As no other sources carries such statement. ( Including western sources)

    So can we conclude that why after this article was published, no ISAF commander have confirmed or denied such allegations?

    So, can we conclude all the information were provided to only one person by all the commanders?? Is it a possibility?

    So, to conclude positively from all this in-conclusiveness is a practice which only a part of the world practices whose capital is situated at 33° 42' N, 73º 10 E'.


    I think I should not bother to write about rest of the article.
    But, have to give credit where it is due, it's very creative.
     
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    an interesting read of Could Iran and India be Afghanistan’s ‘Plan B?’ | The Diplomat
     
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    I have read the quote a couple of times to find the reason or evidence.

    I hope amoy can throw some light as to what he is driving at!
     
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    However The Hindu mentioned NYT article:

     
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    Nice propaganda! Good work ISI/ISPR! :thumb:
     
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    India and Afghn are here to gang rape pakistan.all pakis should know that.

    As long as you belive in good taliban and bad taliban.
     
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    Post link that has western leaders indicting India. You guys are working over time to blame India while you happily deal with terrorists. So are you guys going to give into TTP demands? Have Sharia? Public executions, stoning for adultery on te street of Lahore,Pindi,Islamabad,Karachi? Chopping people hands etc.
     
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    I will try to get the original NYT article and post it here. TTP demands are a no go, its a temporary trend we have to deal with. Even KPK, the most religious province of Pakistan does not support talibanisation and has asked to protect women's and minority's rights in a Parliamentry debate yesterday.
    Nawaz has no balls and the coas Sharif is personal friend. It will take some time before the military think tank and ISI convince him to go after the TTP.
    My guess is that we will see a major clean up operation as soon as NATO leaves Afghanistan.
     
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    yeah this is quite plausible, considering it comes from some solid sources like....

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    the thoughtless think tank of his holiness...and of course how can a 5000000000000 year old civilization lie... BTW, you guys should try to take over afghanistan like you did spain not too long ago....... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

    @Blackwater can attest to the authenticity of this article....

     
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