National Civil Aviation Sector

[roma]

This has something to do with the NDA govt or was it already planned?

good question the answer(s) to which will help us confirm or identify the level of capability of this NDA .

 

[nik22]

good question the answer(s) to which will help us confirm or identify the level of capability of this NDA .

Off topic, who is that girl in pic?

 

[rock127]

Off topic, who is that girl in pic?

https://www.google.co.in/search?q=m...a=X&ei=RaGNVLyJKJefugSU7YG4Dg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ

 

[sayareakd]

Focus on topic. China with all the hacking and pumping of mega $$$ and large techinical manpower is unable to perfect aircraft engine.

 

[nik22]

Focus on topic. China with all the hacking and pumping of mega $$$ and large techinical manpower is unable to perfect aircraft engine.

Sir, it is their focus area. They might be couple of generations behind western countries but I am sure the effort and money they are putting, they will catch up.

Our country does not seem to be showing rigor.

Govt should come up with some priority areas in every field, like:

Aeronautics:
Engine
Aesa radar
.....

Electronics
Chip manufacturing
Sensors
...

Space:


Navy:
Atomic submarines

 

[roma]

https://www.google.co.in/search?q=m...a=X&ei=RaGNVLyJKJefugSU7YG4Dg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ

maria swan is a roma person from poland

 

[no smoking]

Focus on topic. China with all the hacking and pumping of mega $$$ and large techinical manpower is unable to perfect aircraft engine.

So, you are suggesting that India shouldn't make the effort since China hasn't reached its target with more resources?

 

[prohumanity]

Off topic, who is that girl in pic?

Don't get distracted ....they may be fake...lots of things are fake these days. Lets stay on serious issues.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

State Govt Cuts Landing Charges to Push Air Odisha

In its effort to boost intra state air connectivity, the Odisha government has drastically cut landing and night parking charges for private aircraft operators to boost air services within the state.

The landing charges for private air carriers have been slashed from Rs 5000 to Rs 400. Similarly, the night parking charge, which was Rs 2500 earlier, has been completely waived.

The state general administration department has notified the revised rates through a resolution. Since the state had attracted a host of investment proposals from steel, mining, power and IT, the demand for air connectivity within the state has increased.

Some private carriers have submitted proposals to start air services from Bhubaneswar to important commercial destinations within Odisha.

Recently, the state government had sought the support of corporate houses for introduction of low cost regional flights proposed by Air Odisha Aviation Pvt Ltd.

It had written to corporate like Mahanadi Coalfields Ltd, Rourkela Steel Plant (RSP), Bhushan Power and Steel, Hindalco, Odisha Power Generation Corporation (OPGC), Jindal Steel and Power (JSPL), Nalco, National Institute of Technology (Rourkela), Vedanta Aluminium, Odisha Cement, Adani Mining and Ind Barath Energy (Utkal) to ask their officers to use the services of Air Odisha while travelling to respective company's offices and plants at different locations in the state.

Air Odisha proposes to use small aircrafts (with capacity to carry nine passengers and two pilots) to connect different industrial hubs. The company is likely to launch its flights from the first week of November on an experimental basis.

The company will initially run its flights between Bhubaneswar and Rourkela with stoppages at Jharsuguda and Sambalpur. Mine rich locations like Barbil and Angul also figure on the company's radar and operations to these areas will be introduced depending on viability.

Courtesy: Business Standard

Source : State Govt Cuts Landing Charges to Push Air Odisha

 

[archie]

Wish HAL would start making some light aircraft may be it can be way cheaper that known imports

 

[Indx TechStyle]

] HAL Passenger Jets will Get a
Global Profile

BANGALORE: Hindustan Aeronautical Limited (HAL) will once again venture into producing a regional transport aircraft. A tender calling for
foreign partners for the estimated Rs 7,000- crore project will be floated early next year, to produce a 60-80-seater passenger aircraft.
The project will be undertaken by a consortium of Indian and global partners on a risk reward model.
As per the assessment of civil aviation markets in India, there is a need for 200 passenger jet aircraft in India in the next five years, mostly for smaller domestic routes." As the aeronautical ecosystem in India is yet to mature, especially when it comes to dependency on engines, we will finalize our approach on cooperation with
partners soon," said T Suvarna Raju, chairman and managing director, HAL.

The emphasis on global partnership will be engine production."If a passenger aircraft has to be economical, the engine is crucial. So we may co-develop a futuristic, green engine with global partners," he said.
National Aerospace Laboratories and Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd jointly planned to get partners for the production of transport aircraft RTA-70, however, the project did not take off. He added that the project `has no life further'. Raju said developing an indigenous engine would be a priority in the next 25 years. "HAL developed the first engine (3.73 kN) for UAV Lakshya.
GTRE is working on the Kaveri engine which is one 80kN class. So we are concentrating on a 25kN engine, which is used for trainer aircraft and business jets," he said.
HAL will also double production capacity of the LCA from eight aircraft per year to 16, in anticipation of the 108 aircraft order, at Rs 2,100 crore. Half the cost will be borne by HAL and the remaining funded by the Indian Air Force and Navy.

 

[Prashant12]

An aerial display during the celebrations to mark the completion of 75 years of the Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. in Bengaluru on Wednesday. — Photo: Sudhakara Jain

The dream ‘Indian regional passenger plane’ has taken a new turn: its 60/80-seater avatar may now be piloted by Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL), with some help from Indian and foreign aircraft majors.

The earlier plan to steer it as a joint venture of HAL and the CSIR’s National Aerospace Labs (NAL) looks as good as shelved. HAL plans to develop it on its own as a prestigious “brand India” aircraft; or may pull global plane majors such as Boeing, Airbus or Embraer as well as Indian companies into a consortium as risk-sharing partners.

“We could not form the SPV [a 50:50 special purpose vehicle or company] with NAL due to certain reasons from NAL. It stopped there. Now we are looking at two options: make our own `brand India' aircraft or co-produce a regional transport aircraft (RTA)” suited to travel within the country, said T. Suvarna Raju, CMD of HAL, here on Wednesday.

“We are still deliberating the issue and are yet to take it up in the board,” he said addressing a news conference during an event to mark 75 years of the company.

Along with the multi-purpose helicopter ALH, a passenger plane, he said, forms an important aspect of HAL’s venture into civil space. Last year, it had invited proposals from engine manufacturers ahead of designing an aircraft around a suitable engine. The project to design and build flying prototypes, Mr. Raju said, was estimated to cost around Rs. 7,000 crore and would need all the funds it could garner.

Market surveys indicate that the country may need 200 aircraft in the 70-seater class over the next five years.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/hal-all-set-to-pilot-civil-plane/article8025655.ece

 

[Indian Storm]

The same old problem with innovation in India. Once Scientists and Engineers get a chance to make a foreign partnership they jump with joy and ask foreigners to come in. This may fulfil short term goals but in long term our ecosystem is affected. Just look what is happening with our Flagship projects like Arjun and Tejas they are made up of about 60 to 70% imported stuff, have swallowed billion of dollars and yet are not fully ready..
I am not saying we should try to develop 'each and everything' on our own, but certain flagship projects like our first commercial plane India Regional Jet(IRJ), should at least have an indigenous tag. If China and Brazil can do this of course we too can.
Look at our Atomic Bomb plans, missile development plans and ISRO. We were forbidden to discuss these with foreign countries thanks to USA but slowly we developed so many indigenous technologies in these areas that in these fields we 'earned' joint ventures like the BrahMos.
According to me we should lay a very solid indigenous foundation in every key fields and then go out to discuss making products with global profile.

 

[guru-dutt]

first at least have a working model then dream about getting a "global profile" :blah:

 

[Indx TechStyle]

first at least have a working model then dream about getting a "global profile" :blah:

Well, NAL Saras is good demonstrater of technology. If regional jets can be fully operational in AI, they will simply get global profile with export order. Because small countries will like to buy our low cost aircrafts instead of costly US and Russian ones.
We will also get edge in building indigenous military transport and cargo aircrafts. China is doing the same.

 

[Indian Storm]

Exactly......................................................
No need of linking up with foreign companies at starting phase.

 

[guru-dutt]

Well, NAL Saras is good demonstrater of technology. If regional jets can be fully operational in AI, they will simply get global profile with export order. Because small countries will like to buy our low cost aircrafts instead of costly US and Russian ones.
We will also get edge in building indigenous military transport and cargo aircrafts. China is doing the same.

all that sounds great but an agency who is developing saras platform since last 18 years and dint even do a dozen test flights you think they can over come all the obstacles just like that wake up buddy ... HAL/ARDE/ADA hum jaise mujib e watan hindustanio ko patriotism ka chooran bech rahe hain baki what ever they say is bull excreta till they produce some facts to proove there worth .

 

[Indian Storm]

all that sounds great but an agency who is developing saras platform since last 18 years and dint even do a dozen test flights you think they can over come all the obstacles just like that wake up buddy ... HAL/ARDE/ADA hum jaise mujib e watan hindustanio ko patriotism ka chooran bech rahe hain baki what ever they say is bull excreta till they produce some facts to proove there worth .

well HAL has developed Dhruv, LCH and Rudra. Has done successful production of Mig 21, Sukhoi 30, Cheetah, Cheetal and Chetak and will sooon be doing of Ka 226 and Tejas.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

all that sounds great but an agency who is developing saras platform since last 18 years and dint even do a dozen test flights you think they can over come all the obstacles just like that wake up buddy ... HAL/ARDE/ADA hum jaise mujib e watan hindustanio ko patriotism ka chooran bech rahe hain baki what ever they say is bull excreta till they produce some facts to proove there worth .

True that!
I see that we take time in building platforms and keep making successors of it. But same thing is not happening in our planes.

 

[guru-dutt]

well HAL has developed Dhruv, LCH and Rudra. Has done successful production of Mig 21, Sukhoi 30, Cheetah, Cheetal and Chetak and will sooon be doing of Ka 226 and Tejas.

great work no dought but making passenger jets is another story WTF we had to buy brazilian jets for DRDO AWACS what on earth these dodos had been doing all this while so i dont buy this theory of "we shall/will make blah blah" so easyli now