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I am not up to date on the technological advancement so far achieved by metalurgical industry in India. I know in the early days of HAL when HF-24 and AVRO were being developed we did face the challenges on the manufacturing front specially fuselage and wings part of the aeroplanes. What percentage of the final product is really locally sourced and how much is foreign made?
Now it is a Mahindra-NAL project .

Mahindra's second company named ' Aerostaff Australia ' can easily solve such issues . If they are facing any such issues in 5 seater aircraft .

Aerostaff Australia - www.aerostaff.com.au
 

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Shakti engines will also be outsourced to an Australian firm. Basically India has trouble importing Titanium.

And Shakti itself is based on a french turboshaft engine. And nal saras based on a russian design.
 

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Slimmer Saras to fly by year-end

Slimmer Saras to fly by year-end - Bangalore - DNA


India's first multi-role light transport aircraft programme Saras, which suffered a major setback following the crash of an aircraft prototype in 2010, is back on track.

The Saras Production Standard Aircraft (PSA), which is the third prototype of the Saras programme, is under assembly at the National Aerospace Laboratories (NAL) and is expected to fly in the last quarter of 2012.
The Saras PSA, whose all-up weight was reduced by 500 kg using advanced composite components such as wings, empennage, pressure bulkhead, fuselage top skin and weight-optimised fuselage structure, is under fabrication at NAL, said the Bangalore-based Council of Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) governed laboratory in its annual report.
This apart, the carbon composite wing is being fabricated using, for the first time, a fully in-house developed technology called VERITy (Vacuum Enhanced Resin Infusion Technology).
The Saras PSA will be fully equipped with a digital cockpit and advanced avionics and flight control systems that include MFDs (multi-function displays), a fully digital autopilot, an EICAS (the engine instruments and crew alerting system), and an all-moving horizontal tail.

NAL is hopeful that the aircraft will fly in the last quarter of 2012 and be certified by the end of 2013 under FAR-23 regulations.
The Saras programme, which has seen several upheavals in the 1990's due to sanctions following the Pokhran tests, took off in 2004 when the first prototype of the aircraft (P-1) made its maiden flight in 2004.

However, the programme suffered a blow when its second prototype (P-2) crashed during a test sortie due to an incorrect relight procedure killing three Indian Air Force (IAF) personnel, Wing Commander Praveen K, Wing Commander Dipesh Shah and Squadron Leader Ilayaraja, on board in the outskirts of Bangalore. The Saras is a 14-seater aircraft and the IAF has placed an order for 15 aircraft.
 

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why the hell, all Indian institutions build or prefer developing Light Planes and Helli's only!!!!!!!
LCH
LCA
LOH
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why?????
 

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Slimmer Saras to fly by year-end

Slimmer Saras to fly by year-end - Bangalore - DNA
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India's first multi-role light transport aircraft programme Saras, which suffered a major setback following the crash of an aircraft prototype in 2010, is back on track.
The Saras Production Standard Aircraft (PSA), which is the third prototype of the Saras programme, is under assembly at the National Aerospace Laboratories (NAL) and is expected to fly in the last quarter of 2012.

The Saras PSA, whose all-up weight was reduced by 500 kg using advanced composite components such as wings, empennage, pressure bulkhead, fuselage top skin and weight-
optimise fuselage structure, is under fabrication at NAL, said the Bangalore-based Council of Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR governed laboratory in its annual report. This apart, the carbon composite wing is being
fabricated using, for the first time, a fully in-house developed technology called VERITy (Vacuum Enhanced Resin Infusion Technology).

The Saras PSA will be fully equipped with a digital cockpit and advanced avionics and flight control systems that include MFDs (multi-function displays), a fully digital autopilot, an EICAS (the engine instruments and crew alerting system), and an all-moving horizontal tail.
NAL is hopeful that the aircraft will fly in the last quarter of 2012 and be certified by the end of 2013 under FAR-23 regulations.
The Saras programme, which has seen several upheavals in the 1990's due to sanctions following the Pokhran tests, took off in 2004 when the first prototype of the aircraft (P-1) made its maiden flight in 2004.
However, the programme suffered a blow when its second prototype (P-2) crashed during a test sortie due to an incorrect relight procedure killing three Indian Air Force (IAF) personnel, Wing Commander Praveen K, Wing Commander Dipesh Shah and Squadron Leader Ilayaraja, on board in the outskirts of Bangalore. The Saras is a 14-seater aircraft and the IAF has placed an order for 15 aircraft.
 

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Slimmer Saras to fly by year-end

Published: Thursday, Jan 12, 2012, 9:54 IST


India's first multi-role light transport aircraft programme Saras, which suffered a major setback following the crash of an aircraft prototype in 2010, is back on track.

The Saras Production Standard Aircraft (PSA), which is the third prototype of the Saras programme, is under assembly at the National Aerospace Laboratories (NAL) and is expected to fly in the last quarter of 2012.

The Saras PSA, whose all-up weight was reduced by 500 kg using advanced composite components such as wings, empennage, pressure bulkhead, fuselage top skin and weight-optimised fuselage structure, is under fabrication at NAL, said the Bangalore-based Council of Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) governed laboratory in its annual report.

This apart, the carbon composite wing is being fabricated using, for the first time, a fully in-house developed technology called VERITy (Vacuum Enhanced Resin Infusion Technology).
The Saras PSA will be fully equipped with a digital cockpit and advanced avionics and flight control systems that include MFDs (multi-function displays), a fully digital autopilot, an EICAS (the engine instruments and crew alerting system), and an all-moving horizontal tail.

NAL is hopeful that the aircraft will fly in the last quarter of 2012 and be certified by the end of 2013 under FAR-23 regulations.
The Saras programme, which has seen several upheavals in the 1990's due to sanctions following the Pokhran tests, took off in 2004 when the first prototype of the aircraft (P-1) made its maiden flight in 2004.

However, the programme suffered a blow when its second prototype (P-2) crashed during a test sortie due to an incorrect relight procedure killing three Indian Air Force (IAF) personnel, Wing Commander Praveen K, Wing Commander Dipesh Shah and Squadron Leader Ilayaraja, on board in the outskirts of Bangalore. The Saras is a 14-seater aircraft and the IAF has placed an order for 15 aircraft.

:: Bharat-Rakshak.com - Indian Military News Headlines ::
 
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Slimmer Saras to fly by year-end

India's first multi-role light transport aircraft programme Saras, which suffered a major setback following the crash of an aircraft prototype in 2010, is back on track.

The Saras Production Standard Aircraft (PSA), which is the third prototype of the Saras programme, is under assembly at the National Aerospace Laboratories (NAL) and is expected to fly in the last quarter of 2012.

The Saras PSA, whose all-up weight was reduced by 500 kg using advanced composite components such as wings, empennage, pressure bulkhead, fuselage top skin and weight-optimised fuselage structure, is under fabrication at NAL, said the Bangalore-based Council of Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) governed laboratory in its annual report.

This apart, the carbon composite wing is being fabricated using, for the first time, a fully in-house developed technology called VERITy (Vacuum Enhanced Resin Infusion Technology).
The Saras PSA will be fully equipped with a digital cockpit and advanced avionics and flight control systems that include MFDs (multi-function displays), a fully digital autopilot, an EICAS (the engine instruments and crew alerting system), and an all-moving horizontal tail.

NAL is hopeful that the aircraft will fly in the last quarter of 2012 and be certified by the end of 2013 under FAR-23 regulations.
The Saras programme, which has seen several upheavals in the 1990's due to sanctions following the Pokhran tests, took off in 2004 when the first prototype of the aircraft (P-1) made its maiden flight in 2004.

However, the programme suffered a blow when its second prototype (P-2) crashed during a test sortie due to an incorrect relight procedure killing three Indian Air Force (IAF) personnel, Wing Commander Praveen K, Wing Commander Dipesh Shah and Squadron Leader Ilayaraja, on board in the outskirts of Bangalore. The Saras is a 14-seater aircraft and the IAF has placed an order for 15 aircraft.

:: Bharat-Rakshak.com - Indian Military News Headlines ::
 

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Stop wasting tax payers money!!

Only organisation that beats DRDO as failed one is NAL.
 

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Stop wasting tax payers money!!

Only organisation that beats DRDO as failed one is NAL.
and you stop bullshitting around!!! the prototype has been built and been tested... what a dumb chick you are ... atleast do some f***ing research before spitting on NAL like that...
 

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and you stop bullshitting around!!! the prototype has been built and been tested... what a dumb chick you are ... atleast do some f***ing research before spitting on NAL like that...
Care to explain what NAL has achieved so far ?
 

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you asked for achivements

NAL exhibited its achievements by displaying charts and models. Nine charts were displayed along with the models of Saras and NM5. NAL contribution to space technology was also showcased by displaying the VHRR mirror from SED and few Satcom products from FRP division.
 

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Plan panel to allocate Rs 5K crore to develop civilian plane - The Economic Times

However, the Planning Commission suggested creation of a joint venture (JV) with private equity participation for both the development phase as well as for the production phase.

Acting on the plan panel's suggestion, the CSIR had set up a committee chaired by former Finance Secretary Vijay Kelkar to the identify industry partner for the joint venture and suggest equity structure for it.

The joint venture will have to be structured in such a way that it ensures that linkages are maintained between both the phases, the officials said.
 

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NAL Outlines Weight Savings Made to
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NAL Outlines Weight Savings Made to Its Saras Aircraft | AVIATION WEEK


India's National Aerospace Laboratories (NAL) is introducing more composite materials into its 14-seat Saras push-turboprop aircraft.

The first two prototype aircraft only had composite materials for the control surfaces, such as the rudder, elevator, and vertical and horizontal stabilizer. But the new prototype, the PT1N, now being built, has a composite wing and bulkhead as well as composite materials for the front top skin and floor sections, a NAL official tells AviationWeek on the sidelines of the India Aviation airshow in Hyderabad.

About 33% of the aircraft will be made of composites. The use of composites - and optimization of the aluminum alloy fuselage - will deliver a 500 kg weight saving over the earlier prototype, the NAL official says.

Saras is a 14-seat transport aircraft that is powered by two turboprop engines, each fuselage-mounted towards the rear, and well back from the wings.

The official says the new prototype has Pratt & Whitney PT-6 engines generating 1,200hp whereas the PT-6 engines on the earlier prototype only generated 850 hp. NAL decided to increase the engine's thrust to ensure the aircraft can achieve a single-engine take off and landing. This is an EASA and FAA requirement, so the aircraft can land and take off even if one of the two engines shuts down, he says.

HAL actually lost one of its first two prototype aircraft in 2009. It crashed after one of the two engines suddenly shut down. All three on board died in the crash.

The organization's joint head of knowledge and technology C. Divakar says it aims to first achieve military certification by the end of 2013, after which it will examine trying to gain civil certification for the Saras.

Divakar says the Indian air force has agreed to buy 15 Saras aircraft and that state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics will be the manufacturer.

HAL is also developing a five-seat general aviation aircraft, the C-NM5, which India's Mahindra Aerospace will be manufacturing and marketing.

NAL senior technical officer and project lead, Shijo Francis, says the C-NM5 completed its first flight on Sept. 1 at Mahindra's Australian subsidiary GippsAero, which built the first test aircraft.

This aircraft has already completed 10 hr. of flight tests and the plan is for it to be certified by the end of 2015 as a FAR Part 23 general aviation aircraft, Francis says.

The C-NM5 is basically a stretched version of NAL's two-seat Hansa-3 trainer aircraft that has European certification and has already gone into production, says Francis. Fourteen Hansa-3s are flying today, all in India, he says.

The C-NM5 can carry either five people, including the pilot, or it can be used as a freighter or for medivac. Francis says the C-NM5 has a large door that folds out in two places, creating a space about two meters wide, so cargo or medical stretchers can be loaded on quickly and easily.
 

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Care to explain what NAL has achieved so far ?
NAL needs a complete overhaul - literally, complete overhaul. First thing was to throw that director of their out, and they have done so, with a new (acting?) director Dr A R Upadhya, in charge now.

Fingers crossed.

you asked for achivements
NAL exhibited its achievements by displaying charts and models. Nine charts were displayed along with the models of Saras and NM5. NAL contribution to space technology was also showcased by displaying the VHRR mirror from SED and few Satcom products from FRP division.
Models and charts? To call that an achievement is plain embarrassing.


Nice, let dump more money on them!!
:rofl:
 

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