Nag anti-tank Missile

[Bornubus]

Nag was the last missile system under Integrated missile development projects. What is the future R&D by DRDO look like?

To make the advance variants of these Missiles. The basic Missiles are already near obsolete.

For example basic Pinaka is evolving into 120 km capable of firing guided munitions.


Astra will be evolved into true 100 ~ km BVR

 

[Adioz]

Yeah fire 6 Nags to destroy an APS mounted tanks. Saturation. APS is overwhelmed. Better produce a missile with multiple precursor rounds to fool the APS.

Namica is part of a combined arms formation. Its role is to fire Nag ATGMs at a designated target. You want to chuck dummy rounds to trigger the Trophy prematurely and then have Nag hit the target at the very next instant? Design another platform for it. And yeah, good luck having it work in real world conditions. The closest you could come would be the RPG-30.

 

[armyofhind]

With APS Nag is ineffective. Israelis have mounted Trophy, soon Chinese and Pakistanis are going to mount too. Nag is ineffective before it even started.

Pakistan doesnt have the money to put an APS on all their tanks.
That apart, an APS isnt foolproof. Performance against top attack munitions isnt stellar.
One case in point, fighting in an environment wherein an active jammer is functioning for MMW bandwidths.

Also, there will always be vehicles like APCs and IFVs unprotected by APS.

 

[India22]

Namica is part of a combined arms formation. Its role is to fire Nag ATGMs at a designated target. You want to chuck dummy rounds to trigger the Trophy prematurely and then have Nag hit the target at the very next instant? Design another platform for it. And yeah, good luck having it work in real world conditions. The closest you could come would be the RPG-30.

That's what was in my mind. RPG 30.

We can also use EMP jammer. I have some ideas though. Come to private conversation.

 

[Prashant12]

NAMICA firing a NAG ATGM during development trials by DRDO.

https://www.facebook.com/TejasMrca/

 

[Chinmoy]

NAMICA firing a NAG ATGM during development trials by DRDO.

https://www.facebook.com/TejasMrca/

I always wonder on the emission pattern of NAG. Never seen anything like this on any other missile. Any specific reason for that?

 

[uoftotaku]

I always wonder on the emission pattern of NAG. Never seen anything like this on any other missile. Any specific reason for that?

The rocket motor does double duty as both propulsion and directional stabilizer / steering. Its quite common in shoulder launched missiles actually. The main engine and propellant are in the center section just behind the warhead, guidance (especially if SACLOS or Wire type is used) goes in the back facing the launcher for easier control. Also imparts better weight balance to the missile as the propellant gets exhausted, otherwise missile would get front heavy in terminal stage,affecting accuracy

 

[shiphone]

dear... this layout is quite common especially on ATGM layouts..

the famous BGM-71 TOW and its sustainer mortor..

normally on this layout of missile, the rear end was occupied by the 'Beacon' and 'Wire Dispenser' ...in NAG's case, the rear part is for the sustainer motor

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[Chinmoy]

Thanks @uoftotaku @shiphone for enlightening

 

[airtel]

India's Nag ATGM has completed development trials with a flourish -- a series of bang-on tests in September (photo below). While the Army has been involved in these trials, user trials will now follow in an accelerated regime.

source -LiveFist

 

[Abhi9]

Hi Indra Network Posted some details about the DRDO man portable anti tank guided missile

The DETAILS are as follows –

MISSILE :

• WEIGHT : 14.5 kg
• LENGTH : 1.3 m
• DIAMETER : 120 mm
• OPERTIONAL RANGE : 200 mm to 2.5 km
• LOCK-ON-BEFORE-LAUCH (LOBL) guidance with a passive homing IIR Seeker
• ‘Soft’ launch propulsion system for gunner safety

LAUNCHER SYSTEM

• Command launch unit (CLU) consisting of Target Acquisition System (TAS) and Command Control Unit (CCU)
• WEIGHT : 14.25 kg

Credits: Indra Network.

 

[Scrutator]

Hi Indra Network Posted some details about the DRDO man portable anti tank guided missile

The DETAILS are as follows –

MISSILE :

• WEIGHT : 14.5 kg
• LENGTH : 1.3 m
• DIAMETER : 120 mm
• OPERTIONAL RANGE : 200 mm to 2.5 km
• LOCK-ON-BEFORE-LAUCH (LOBL) guidance with a passive homing IIR Seeker
• ‘Soft’ launch propulsion system for gunner safety

LAUNCHER SYSTEM

• Command launch unit (CLU) consisting of Target Acquisition System (TAS) and Command Control Unit (CCU)
• WEIGHT : 14.25 kg

Credits: Indra Network.

Thanks!
The min range is really 200 mm (or more like 200 m? )?

 

[Abhi9]

Thanks!
The min range is really 200 mm (or more like 200 m? )?

I think the minimum range would be 200 meter

 

[HariPrasad-1]

US had offered joint R & D on Javlin but DRDO decided to go itself. They said that they think that it would be ready in 2 years. Let us wait. NAg program is almost a failure so we should use its technologies in this missile.

 

[Scrutator]

Let us wait. Nag program is almost a failure

Is that confirmed? Thought they put in a higher resolution seeker which performed well.
I am more concerned about this seeker from the Helina perspective (even though the Helina missile has morphed into something different from Nag, they do share the seeke)r. Helina has a big bearing on the LCH/Rudra program!!!!

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Is that confirmed? Thought they put in a higher resolution seeker which performed well.
I am more concerned about this seeker from the Helina perspective (even though the Helina missile has morphed into something different from Nag, they do share the seeke)r. Helina has a big bearing on the LCH/Rudra program!!!!

Nag will require a big vehicle to carry them and they just offer some 1.5 KM range extension advantage. India has already bought a huge numbers of Russian and Israeli missiles. Even if Nag succeeds, what Indian army will do with them. Nag should have come a decade ago.

 

[Scrutator]

Nag will require a big vehicle to carry them and they just offer some 1.5 KM range extension advantage. India has already bought a huge numbers of Russian and Israeli missiles. Even if Nag succeeds, what Indian army will do with them. Nag should have come a decade ago.

Agreed. Nag/Namica role always appeared funky to me! In fact I feel they should ditch the original design of Nag (that was restricted to work with LOBL mode) and use the heli based Nag (Not the current version of Helina - but the stop-gap Nag variant created with an RF link and extended range to test on Rudra, this has the LOAL mode and 7km range). This would come close to Spike. Perhaps even extend it's range further and make it like Spike-ER.
The Spike missiles purchased were not in very large quantity (they're pretty expensive!!!).
The Russian Invars (again very expensive) are slated to be fitted onto BMP-2 during their upgrade.
Namica may be ditched in entirety. The future FICV may hold more promise for Nag like missile.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

The Russian Invars (again very expensive) are slated to be fitted onto BMP-2 during their upgrade.

They are not costly. They will be made in India and we have to pay some 2000 USD royalty to Russia for every piece we produce.

 

[Scrutator]

They are not costly. They will be made in India and we have to pay some 2000 USD royalty to Russia for every piece we produce.

So much for royalty! But what about the total cost of manufacture (even when done in India)? If I remember correctly, India paid around a $1 million for each launcher with a bundle of 10 (?) missiles.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Besides your knowledge about NAG is little bigger with little more range, What is else makes it different which insisted Army to support its development to till this day, The technology implemented on it was not there a decade ago in this part of world, Nor those Russian have, Their is no Israeli ATGM in Army and the version Army wants is not yet fully operational in IDF itself ..

We Indians have a well oiled scientific and military community, You are on Indian forum and best learn before putting it out, Their is a thread here on that subject best go through it..

Nag will require a big vehicle to carry them and they just offer some 1.5 KM range extension advantage. India has already bought a huge numbers of Russian and Israeli missiles. Even if Nag succeeds, what Indian army will do with them. Nag should have come a decade ago.