Malaysia: Halloween 'banned' by Islamic authority

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  1. Ray

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    During Shab e Barat, which also involves praying at the graves of the departed is also celebrated with festivity.


    Interestingly, when in a bind blame it on "Hindu practice" being adopted by Muslims.

    So, Christian practices not fine for Malaysian Muslims?

    Dogs are dirty?

    But as usual, all that is covered with total hypocrisy as this:
    Revered all animals, including dogs but no touching a dog!

    Some reverence indeed!

    Malaysia is a schizophrenic country?

    But in a way Malaysia is right, given the manner in which the world is observing the Muslims, it is a natural reaction of the fundamentalists who govern the State to ensure that the followers are kept under strict control lest they get influenced by the world and dilute the Faith and the resolve to take on the world.

    Soon they might ban pork products that are sold in supermarkets.

    But then the Chinese Malaysians, who control the Malaysian economy, may put the spanner in the works.
     
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    The sad part is that these fundamentalist organisations like the Fatwa blokes are only driving the Muslims into the corner and doing Islam no good over frivolous issues.

    Here is what the self appointed custodian of Islam is doing

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    How come he does not follow the Islamic injunctions?

    And yet can claim to be a true and pious Muslim?

    Should he not do a ritualistic cleansing?
     
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    Isn't it celebrated only in america.
     
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    not really. i happen to visit a pub yesterday night in mumbai and yes the theme was halloween with all the staff in spooky costumes and in the character.
    although i would agree that the festival is not as celebrated as the way they do it in US. (trick or treat types)
     
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    India too is getting westernised.

    We indulge in Valentine, Halloween and so many other such festivities, also Gay Pride Parades and all that. Even if these activities are not indigenous.

    Keeping up with the Joneses, so to say.

    That is basically to show that 'we have arrived'!
     
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    Quote from the article:

    Muslims in Malaysia should not celebrate Halloween, the country's National Fatwa Council has announced.

    The council, one of Malaysia's highest Islamic bodies, says Halloween is a Christian celebration of the dead and "against Islamic teachings", in a fatwa issued on its website. "Halloween is celebrated using a humorous theme mixed with horror to entertain and resist the spirit of death that influences humans... It cannot be celebrated by Muslims,"​

    The council should brush up on its understanding of Abrahamic religions. Halloween is not Christian, it is a European Pagan tradition. The council would have a made a better point if they knew what they were talking about.
     
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    Oct 31- All Hallows Eve
    Nov 1- All Saints/Hallows Day.

    Of course like a lot of other Christian feasts (Easter, Christmas) Halloween also borrows heavily from Pre-Christian Pagan systems of the regions, and so can be considered a continuation of the Pagan festival.
    This was done to make the transition from Pagan Systems into a Christian system, easier/more acceptable for the masses.
     
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    Islamic clergy like to make a fool of themselves by trying to regulate everything.

    Sooner or later Muslims will get sick of this religion. It is a faith that can seem to coexist with the modern age.
    They will quietly leave the faith.
     
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    This fatwa is widely criticised in Malaysia. But the fatwa only applies to Malaysian Muslims. Even then a lot of my Muslim relatives like dogs and all their children like Halloween and Christmas treats. I can conveniently tell you that majority of Malaysians do not agree with that religious order. You can blame it on the desire of Razak to copy Erdogan for UMNO.
     
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    I am aware that Muslims behave most non Moslem in Malaysia.

    Girls wearing tudungs slip them off to drink beer, but always wary of the Moral Police.

    Even if they do not agree, the Moral Police will make them do what the clerics want.

     
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    @Ray

    The problem in our case is that the Government is willing to tolerate if not ride these Religious fundamentalist. The rise of a strong opposition to UMNO has ironically moved the latter closer to the religious fundamentalists. But I think more and more of the younger Muslims are for moderation. You can see it from the support for the opposition (but there are also reactionary forces within Malaysia's youth, as everywhere in the World).
     
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    OK.... and your point is? (Pagan) Seasonal festivals and certain Christian events have been linked in time. No one know's when Jesus was born, but Christmas has become very Christian. Easter is Christianity's most important event, but isn't Christian's countries biggest holiday, which would be Christmas. Summer solstice is mainly for hippies.
     

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