Losing Faith in democracy

[The Messiah]

To solve democracy problem:

* Place cap on money spent by people in elections. Make it max 10 lakh for mp's. Too often people are backed by industrialists who fund the person with such a massive packet that any honest person cant even compete.
* Make police and judiciary totally independent. Why should politicians have any say in there selection.
* Place life sentence for corruption min 20 years behind bars and death penalty for multiple offences.
* Any person caught "cheating" in elections should be banned from life for ever contesting elections and his wife and children shouldn't be allowed to stand in elections either for 10 years.
* Every MP should give a complete summary on where he spent the allocated money for his constituency every year to public. Then every entry should be cross checked....if he is found to be hoarding the money he should be immediately suspended and a case should be initiated against him.

But all the above is bollocks and wont happen since person involved in making rules are themselves corrput top to bottom.

 

[The Messiah]

are you sure.2001 census puts indian literacy rates at 65%. so only 35% of india is illiterate.Even then problem in system is there then 65% of literate indians are responsible for it .we can excuse rest 35% of their ignorance due to illiteracy.so now ur premise that ur premise that democracy is not delivering due to illiteracy is wrong

I know too well how educated these so called literates are....and by educated i dont mean book and pen educated (which is a farce since its piss easy to pass with shit marks....heck now you cant even fail till class 8th) but people who can see past the double faced politicians through common sense, logic and past experiance. When a person keeps electing a thief then he's a fool isn't he ?

Do the majority of these 65% literates know the abc of how the country runs and about the economics behind it ?

I have personally witnessed people getting between 100 and 500 bucks to vote for a certain politician from SP gundas in UP. Politics isn't for the faint hearted anymore or the honest person since he'll have to turn into a thief to win.

 

[RAM]

Do the majority of these 65% literates know the abc of how the country runs and about the economics behind it ?

I have personally witnessed people getting between 100 and 500 bucks to vote for a certain politician from SP gundas in UP. Politics isn't for the faint hearted anymore or the honest person since he'll have to turn into a thief to win.

You are trying to transpire something that happened overnight..its not .As crime/corruption had the leverage in elected candidiates due to underperformed electoral process sytem for decades as there was no other way of a proper electoral solution for a hugemongous society .with lack of proper selection process of candidates and criteria in choosing them for decades-corruption became institutionalised in Democratic process.For eg Arrival of T N sheshan as election commissioner changed the electoral process dynamics and the reforms followed with a lot of reductionof corruption the way election being conducted today.

so if an individual can change a system ,an institution can do better.

 

[Rage]

Do you have a source for your claim?

The literacy among youth ie. below 20 is about 85%. The adult literacy stands at 65%

The world hunger index says India is home to the most hungry people in the world and it ranks below most of African nations and Pakistan , Srilanka and Nepal in the neighborhood.

My sources are economic Journals like Econometrica and the Int'l Economic Review, to which you would not ordinarily have access unless you had a special subscribers' ID or membership via an academic institution.

There was a pretty decent blogspot, that quoted one of these journals, that said India's literacy rate was 78%. I'll try 'n' get a hand on it for you.

For now, you'll have to check out one of these reports based on the NSSO (the National Sample Survey Organization) that said India's literacy was increasing at a 'sluggish' growth rate of 1.5% per year. Despite this 'sluggish' growth rate, India was set to hit 80% by 2012, from an initial base of 65.38% in the year 2001.

India's literacy rate increase sluggish

Your own statement clarifies some things. India is predominantly a young society, and isochronically-adjusted age demographics applied to population literacy rates, mean that the literacy rate is actually augmenting at faster than the mean. Infact, the growth rate for literacy among the very young, especially among school-age females, is even higher.

India is certainly today the 'world's hunger' capital, after sub-Saharan Africa. But the United Nations has also had the tendency of reporting some of India's problems egregiously. Nowhere is this more apparent, than in its AIDS statistics, where it reported India as having the ' highest AIDS population in the world'- at 6 million, 0.0058% of the population, and then was forced to scale that back- by more than half.

United Nations admits to having exaggerated statistics about AIDS in the world :: Catholic News Agency (CNA)

Number of India HIV cases cut in half - Health - AIDS - msnbc.com

UN overestimated AIDS figures: Reports

 

[ajtr]

X-posting ......................................

Research - The Dragon & the Elephant: Five myths about China versus India

Myth 1: China's authoritarian system sacrifices rights for social order

In fact, there is far more chaos and unrest in China than there is in India. According to the latest available official figures, there were 124,000 instances of 'mass unrest' (defined as 15 or more people protesting against officials) in 2008 in China. India has fewer than 5,000 such instances. Beijing spends more on 'internal security,' which does not include the normal police forces, than it does on the People's Liberation Army.

Myth 2: India enjoys more freedom but at the price of economic inequality

In fact, using the commonly accepted standard of the GINI coefficient, China's score is around 0.55–0.60, while India's is around 0.33–0.36 ('0' is perfect income equality and '1' is perfect income inequality. This makes China the most unequal society in all of Asia and the trend is worsening.

Myth 3: Given China's spectacular rise, its private sector multinationals are due to dominate Asia, and then the world

True, there are 34 Chinese companies in the Fortune 500 list – all state-controlled except for one – compared to India's eight. Size is one thing. But by 'return on assets' (to measure profitability) and 'number of patents filed' (to assess innovation), Indian firms do significantly better. Tellingly, the Indian firms spend about 5% of revenues on R&D on average while Chinese firms spend about 1% of revenue.

Myth 4: China is leaving India behind in the urbanisation stakes

China is definitely ahead of India: about 48% versus 35%. But the rate of urbanisation in India is actually neck-and-neck with China at about 1.5% per year.

Myth 5: China and India are making Western models of political-economy obsolete

There is a saying in both countries about their own respective developmental approach: Western knowhow with Chinese/Indian essence. But even Beijing and New Delhi admit that they are still speculating what this actually means. China and India are still outside the world's top 100 for GDP per capita. The jury is well and truly still out on this one.