Kashmir solution will make Pakistan normal US expert

[anoop_mig25]

Deny Pakistan PoK and problem solved

If we really had such foresighted leadership in past

 

[DivineHeretic]

For a decade, the Pak imagined proxy war as their highway to Kashmir. Result : Kashmir is more safe than Delhi, the inbred monsters began to find easier prey on the host body.
Then For a decade, the Pak establishment held a gun to its head and nuclear blackmailed the world wrt Kashmir, threatened India with 8 seconds. Result: Pak lost credibility as a responsible country with nuclear weapons. No dealings are done by anyone bar China about Pakistan, always with pakistan.
They Now they find themselves in a swamp, the end of the highway they began on 1989, 40000 invincible mujahidden burried in unmarked graves, 40000 pak civillians killed by their own heroes, 5000 troops dead in their homeland, slaughtered by their own trainees, in the name of their own Allah, for their own Allah.

10 years down the road, we shall become 20 times bigger than them. when we take the position of the 3rd largest economy, they will be lucky to avoid a civil war. So the question is, why should we try to resolve anything, especially now, when every passing day makes everything slide more in our favour.

The Pakistanis tried muscle, found both hands broken and battered, Now they try negotiation. The aim: take kashmir by negotiation.
But alas, somebody forgot to inform them, negotiation is always dictated from a position of strength, the weaker side must accept what it gets. But they continue to hager on, like a woman searching for a 10/10 Mr. Right, when their own value has plummeted to 5/10.

 

[DivineHeretic]

Oops,double post

 

[anoop_mig25]

GB, PoK, Aksai Chin must be given back to INDIA........

Well forget it , GoI official poistion on most of the matter now is that all those loc,aloc should be converted in to IB

 

[Ray]

But they say he was a Pakistani ???

No.

Pakistan?

Who ever thought that it will be there and consign itself to flames as it is doing?

I am talking of the Mughal Empire and its successor India!

 

[Ray]

They say every Muslim who attacked India is a Paki. Ghauri, Babur, Abdali missile rings a bell? They may well say Genghis Khan was a Paki!

They might say even Mecca was a part of Pakistan!

And they are the custodians!

They are such idiots who invent history as their closest bum chums!

 

[arnabmit]

Sir GB is part of PoK.

PoK and GB. These days people coveniently forget that GB is part of te entire state of Jammu and Kashmir.

 

[Yusuf]

Sir GB is part of PoK.

Smartly, the Pakis have managed to sell PoK as the thin strip of the valley.

They usurped GB and assimilated into Pak.

 

[arnabmit]

Let them cry & beg and do whatever... They sold to the idea to the world that they are a valid claimant to entire Kashmir.

PoK is the total Indian land of the so called Azad Kashmir, GB & Saksham Valley which the beggars illegally gave to China as protection money.

Anyway, Saksham Valley & Aksai Chin should not be of much concern of India as those lands neither have any population, resources nor strategic importance.

Smartly, the Pakis have managed to sell PoK as the thin strip of the valley.

They usurped GB and assimilated into Pak.

 

[Singh]

Not going to happen. Jihad Factory now doesn't rely upon Kashmir but West vs Islam.

 

[Ray]

They sold to the idea to the world that they are a valid claimant to entire Kashmir.

However, now none is buying that fairy tale!

The true face of Pakistan has been exposed that they are merely the womb of infamy, terrorism and total false perceptions, massaged with an immense false ego of being the masters of their Fate!

The continue to be vassals to the highest bidder.

 

[arya]

well usa think Pakistani friendship is more important then rest all things .

well then we have to think ....

 

[rock127]

New Delhi - A resolution of the outstanding Kashmir issue would make Pakistan a "more normal state" and reduce its preoccupation with India, said a former CIA officer, who was one of the architects of US President Barack Obama's Af-Pak policy in his first term.
In his latest book Avoiding Armageddon: America, India, and Pakistan to the Brink and Back, Bruce Riedel said by eliminating Pakistan's desire to wage asymmetric warfare against India, it would also discourage Pakistan from making alliances with the Taliban, Lashkar-e-Tayyaba and al Qaeda.

Riedel and late Richard Holbrooke were the architects of Obama's Af-Pak policy. He is currently a research scholar at the prestigious Brookings Institute."The resolution of the Kashmir issue would go a long way toward making Pakistan a more normal state and reducing its preoccupation with India," he wrote.He said it would also remove a major rationale for the army's disproportionate role in Pakistani national security affairs that in turn would help to ensure the survival of genuine civilian democratic rule in the country.

"Former ambassador William Milam, a seasoned South Asia hand, has rightly stressed that the 'India-Centricity of the Pakistani mindset is the most important factor and variable' in the future of the country. Such an agreement would not resolve all the tensions between the two neighbours. However, their disputes on issues other than Kashmir are comparatively trivial," he wrote.

"A Kashmir deal would set the stage for a different era in the subcontinent and for more productive interaction between the international community and Pakistan. It could set the stage for a genuine rapprochement between India and Pakistan and nurture trade and economic interaction, which could transform the subcontinent for the better," Riedel said.

He said "it is also in India's interest" to find a solution to the conflict, which had gone on far too long."Since the Kargil war in 1999, the Indians have been more open to an American role in Kashmir because they sense that Washington is fundamentally in favour of a resolution to maintain the status quo, which India can accept," he claimed.

"The key to Indian cooperation will be whether the United States can make clear to Pakistan that some red lines regarding terrorism are real, especially a red line on Lashkar-e-Tayyba. If [Congress President] Sonia Gandhi and Prime Minister [Manmohan] Singh can point to real evidence that LeT is being broken up and dismantled in Pakistan, then they will have the political clout to advance the back-channel talks to secure a peace breakthrough," Riedel wrote."It is clearly in the American interest to try to defuse a lingering conflict that has generated global terrorism and repeatedly threatened to create a full-scale military confrontation on the subcontinent," he wrote.

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Can anyone confirm if the news is original since Paki sources love to manipulate words?

I stopped reading when it said Pakistan a "more normal state" since the writer LOST his credibility. :shocked: Pakistan is NOT A NORMAL STATE... its a FAILED STATE or TERRORIST STATE.

The writer is an idiot who knows zilch about matters of this region... he needs to go and watch Lady GAGA concert or Grammy awards or better shag a chick in his office.

 

[arya]

well see what he is saying ??

 

[arya]

 

[Bhadra]

CONVERTED KASHMIR: Memorial of Mistakes



Nehru, who was fond of wearing a rose and who remained drunk in his Kashmiriyat and pro-Muslim bias, kept on striking his feet with his axe and the strikes of this merciless and directionsless axe had kept on causing cracks in Kashmir, the crown of mother India. When the Indian troops were marching for liberating Pakistan occupied Kashmir, and the liberation was a metter of a few hours, that very moment Nehru, on the direction of the Sheikh, announced unilateral ceasefire on January 1, 1948. Feeling hurt over the attitude of Nehru, Justice Kunwar Dilip Singh, India's Agent General in Kashmir, resigned. Nehru did not stop there. He, without consulting Army commanders, took the Kashmir matter, at the behest of the Sheikh, to the United Nations' Security Council which announced that the fate of Kashmir can be decided through a plebiscite. Nehru invited trouble without asking. And today Pakistan, by swearing in the name of the Security council resolution, is backing the youths in Kashmir. An instance of such a political bankruptcy is not found anywhere in the world. It is a height of narrow vision.

The Sheikh wanted to settle many scores by exploiting this problem. Had the Indian Army been allowed four-five days' time, Pakistan would have been mauled and the entire Kashmir would have been with India thereby establishing the supremacy ofthe Indian troops. The Sheikh did not want it. The narrow vision of Nehru fulfilled this wish of the Sheikh. The Kashmir problem has, thus, remained on the files of the United Nations and has become a termite in the international politics. By taking the matter, through Nehru, to the Security Council the Sheikh smoothened his ways.

 

[rock127]

CONVERTED KASHMIR: Memorial of Mistakes



Nehru, who was fond of wearing a rose and who remained drunk in his Kashmiriyat and pro-Muslim bias, kept on striking his feet with his axe and the strikes of this merciless and directionsless axe had kept on causing cracks in Kashmir, the crown of mother India. When the Indian troops were marching for liberating Pakistan occupied Kashmir, and the liberation was a metter of a few hours, that very moment Nehru, on the direction of the Sheikh, announced unilateral ceasefire on January 1, 1948. Feeling hurt over the attitude of Nehru, Justice Kunwar Dilip Singh, India's Agent General in Kashmir, resigned. Nehru did not stop there. He, without consulting Army commanders, took the Kashmir matter, at the behest of the Sheikh, to the United Nations' Security Council which announced that the fate of Kashmir can be decided through a plebiscite. Nehru invited trouble without asking. And today Pakistan, by swearing in the name of the Security council resolution, is backing the youths in Kashmir. An instance of such a political bankruptcy is not found anywhere in the world. It is a height of narrow vision.

The Sheikh wanted to settle many scores by exploiting this problem. Had the Indian Army been allowed four-five days' time, Pakistan would have been mauled and the entire Kashmir would have been with India thereby establishing the supremacy ofthe Indian troops. The Sheikh did not want it. The narrow vision of Nehru fulfilled this wish of the Sheikh. The Kashmir problem has, thus, remained on the files of the United Nations and has become a termite in the international politics. By taking the matter, through Nehru, to the Security Council the Sheikh smoothened his ways.

Indian "Leaders" and their strategic mistakes...

 

[arya]

CONVERTED KASHMIR: Memorial of Mistakes



Nehru, who was fond of wearing a rose and who remained drunk in his Kashmiriyat and pro-Muslim bias, kept on striking his feet with his axe and the strikes of this merciless and directionsless axe had kept on causing cracks in Kashmir, the crown of mother India. When the Indian troops were marching for liberating Pakistan occupied Kashmir, and the liberation was a metter of a few hours, that very moment Nehru, on the direction of the Sheikh, announced unilateral ceasefire on January 1, 1948. Feeling hurt over the attitude of Nehru, Justice Kunwar Dilip Singh, India's Agent General in Kashmir, resigned. Nehru did not stop there. He, without consulting Army commanders, took the Kashmir matter, at the behest of the Sheikh, to the United Nations' Security Council which announced that the fate of Kashmir can be decided through a plebiscite. Nehru invited trouble without asking. And today Pakistan, by swearing in the name of the Security council resolution, is backing the youths in Kashmir. An instance of such a political bankruptcy is not found anywhere in the world. It is a height of narrow vision.

The Sheikh wanted to settle many scores by exploiting this problem. Had the Indian Army been allowed four-five days' time, Pakistan would have been mauled and the entire Kashmir would have been with India thereby establishing the supremacy ofthe Indian troops. The Sheikh did not want it. The narrow vision of Nehru fulfilled this wish of the Sheikh. The Kashmir problem has, thus, remained on the files of the United Nations and has become a termite in the international politics. By taking the matter, through Nehru, to the Security Council the Sheikh smoothened his ways.

yes he made mistake but why not any solution till now

do you really think we want solution , what will be solution ??


is there any one India think for nation future lets how will be India after 15 yr .. any road map and plans of action ..

 

[arnabmit]

Till the time US continues to cradle Pakistan, Pak will stay on the verge of collapse, but will never will completely. US needs to make Afghanistan its strategic ally instead of Pak to have a foothold in Central Asia.

I think US will not mediate directly with Gwadar port & Chinese pipeline through GB, but will ask CIA to support BLA. Separate Baluchistan would ensure Paki energy crisis, clipped Chinese petroleum wings and US Central Asia plans.

However, now none is buying that fairy tale!

The true face of Pakistan has been exposed that they are merely the womb of infamy, terrorism and total false perceptions, massaged with an immense false ego of being the masters of their Fate!

The continue to be vassals to the highest bidder.

 

[roma]

NOT EVEN AN INCH OF KASHMIR SHALL BE GIVEN TO pakistan........

that's after Mr n had already given them 50% of it