J20 Stealth Fighter

[Steven Rogers]

Utter rubbish.

The AL31's first run came after Pratt and Whitney's F100. They are in the same class. Is the AL31 a copy of the F100?

What's your source for that dubious claim? It's BS, but I'm curious as to whether you just pulled that fact out of thin air or if you have an actual source?

Well well
http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/threads/ws10-and-al31-side-by-side.6697/

 

[leap-x]

simple as that , j20 or j31..way inferior to su35....

How many SU-35 we bought？24 . we even want less，but 24 basically the minimum number Russian can accept.

How many J20 we will build？ I think definitely gonna more than 200.And J-20 is more expensive than Su-35.
That tells how confident PLA air force is about J-20. Su-35 stand little chance against J-20.

Unlike your LCA.If it is that good,why IAF will try to but Gripen or F-16 after purchase of 36 rafale？ Basically Gripen is the same as LCA at speed ，range and payload.

 

[Steven Rogers]

How many SU-35 we bought？24 . we even want less，but 24 basically the minimum number Russian can accept.

How many J20 we will build？ I think definitely gonna more than 200.And J-20 is more expensive than Su-35.
That tells how confident PLA air force is about J-20. Su-35 stand little chance against J-20.

Unlike your LCA.If it is that good,why IAF will try to but Gripen or F-16 after purchase of 36 rafale？ Basically Gripen is the same as LCA at speed ，range and payload.

Here comes fanboyism.... BOTH GRIPEN AND F16s carry more fuel and a powerful engine than the LCA, apart from Maneuverability and degrees of stealth LCA don't score over both these MRCA, and you say J20s gonna see light with 200s in nos... Noone is questioning about that, but how many of them are currently certified for combat and how many years will they take to certify for combat.

 

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Here comes fanboyism.... BOTH GRIPEN AND F16s carry more fuel and a powerful engine than the LCA, apart from Maneuverability and degrees of stealth LCA don't score over both these MRCA, and you say J20s gonna see light with 200s in nos... Noone is questioning about that, but how many of them are currently certified for combat and how many years will they take to certify for combat.

haha,Gripen even use the same engine.while your so called MK2 plan to use F414 too. Stealth？ I remember many claimed LCA is the most stealth 3-generation fighter because of its small size and over 40% percent of composite.

 

[leap-x]

WS10 is a try to make an equivalent of Al31, Chinese even made WS10 on the basis of Al31..

you are totally wrong. WS-10's core engine come from CFM56 while CFM56 use the some core engine of F101. F101 developed into F110. I worked as a CFM56 engineer for more than 4 years.

 

[Steven Rogers]

haha,Gripen even use the same engine.while your so called MK2 plan to use F414 too. Stealth？ I remember many claimed LCA is the most stealth 3-generation fighter because of its small size and over 40% percent of composite.

That's idiotic when you don't know the way to debate.... Well kid LCA mk1 uses GEF404 whole proposed Mk2 is 6 to 7 years from the certification with GEF414, Gripen E has range over 4100kms with external fuel tanks and full internal fuel. LCA MK1 CFD analysis showed that range IS 1700kms, and for Mk2 it adds half hour of more operation online, which is still good enough but falls short than that of Gripen.... Stealth means avoidance of early detection, and it is achieved by active as well as passive stealth..
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[leap-x]

That's idiotic when you don't know the way to debate.... Well kid LCA mk1 uses GEF404 whole proposed Mk2 is 6 to 7 years from the certification with GEF414, Gripen E has range over 4100kms with external fuel tanks and full internal fuel. LCA MK1 CFD analysis showed that range IS 1700kms, and for Mk2 it adds half hour of more operation online, which is still good enough but falls short than that of Gripen.... Stealth means avoidance of early detection, and it is achieved by active as well as passive stealth..
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the idiotic suits you better obviously. Do not compare one range with external fuel tanks while another without, idiot.

 

[Steven Rogers]

the idiotic suits you better obviously. Do not compare one range with external fuel tanks while another without, idiot.

With LCA fuel tanks it is giving up those wet points which it can carry heavy guided munitions, LCA has payload of 3500kgs while Gripen can carry 5200kgs of payload.

 

[leap-x]

With LCA fuel tanks it is giving up those wet points which it can carry heavy guided munitions, LCA has payload of 3500kgs while Gripen can carry 5200kgs of payload.

You are making no sense. If Gripen wantss to reach 4100 Km range, it does not carry any heavy guided munitions either.

 

[Steven Rogers]

You are making no sense. If Gripen wantss to reach 4100 Km range, it does not carry any heavy guided munitions either.

This type configuration is claimed to go beyond 3000kms

 

[leap-x]

This type configuration is claimed to go beyond 3000kms

I doubt it. Any relialbe source toconfirm that？

 

[Steven Rogers]

I doubt it. Any relialbe source toconfirm that？

Highly correct, with two massive drop tanks at the bottom, it could easily go to bombing large stations.

 

[Steven Rogers]

I doubt it. Any relialbe source toconfirm that？

This is best configuration of LCA MK1 for long ranges... It requires internal fuel+Drop tanks+mid air refueling to go beyond 4500kms...... The actual range when it was designed was even smaller what it is today. It was designed it was a mere interceptor, with continuous modifications and continuous change in requirements, it can now go beyond 1700kms on its own with any external drop tanks.....

 

[leap-x]

This is best configuration of LCA MK1 for long ranges... It requires internal fuel+Drop tanks+mid air refueling to go beyond 4500kms...... The actual range when it was designed was even smaller what it is today. It was designed it was a mere interceptor, with continuous modifications and continuous change in requirements, it can now go beyond 1700kms on its own with any external drop tanks.....

Gripen is much better, So IAF wants something better.

It is the same with J-20.

 

[Steven Rogers]

Gripen is much better, So IAF wants something better.

It is the same with J-20.

Gripen isn't replacing LCA but are procured to fill the void created by only 36 Rafales when they are needed Atleast 150.

 

[J20!]

Henry K put this up on his Twitter page; wish this pic was of a higher resolution:

3 J20's and 3 J16's on a photo-op.

 

[J20!]

Good looking HD shots from SDF:

NB: The two pics of the J20 in primer are not prototype 2021 but old pics of an LRIP J20 before it entered service.

 

[J20!]

Prototype 2101 in flight:

 

[J20!]

Prototype 2101 in flight:

Same pic better quality:

 

[Steven Rogers]

Same pic better quality:

Has J20 entered the squadron service.