Israel blocks sale of F-16 reconnaissance equipment for Turkey

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    The diplomatic crisis with Ankara intensified on Thursday when the Defense Ministry decided not to renew an export license for Elbit Systems and Israel Aerospace Industries to sell advanced intelligence systems to the Turkish Air Force.

    Defense officials said Israel was working to improve ties with Ankara but that the ministry was “responsible for every product that receives an export license” and that it could not currently permit the delivery of the intelligence- gathering systems to Turkey.

    “This has to do strictly with this system and should not impact the overall ties between the countries,” an official said.

    The $140 million deal, signed in 2009, was for the sale of the advanced infrared Lorop camera and associated equipment. Developed by Elbit subsidiary El-Op, the camera is installed in a pod which can be carried on combat aircraft. The systems were supposed to be delivered to Turkey in the coming months.

    Both IAI and Elbit are in talks with Defense Ministry director- general Udi Shani about the expected economic implications and the possibility that they will be exposed to Turkish lawsuits for reneging on the contract.

    Elbit revealed the Defense Ministry decision in a statement to the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange, saying that the company was in talks with Shani about receiving compensation for the refusal to renew the export license.

    “At the present time, there is not an estimate of the amount of the damages that may result from the nonrenewal of the export authorizations. Such damages may have a material impact on the company’s financial results,” Elbit said.

    Israel’s ties with Turkey hit rock-bottom earlier this year, when Ankara expelled the Israeli ambassador after the United Nations published its report on the 2010 flotilla incident. The report justified Israel’s sea blockade over the Gaza Strip. Since the flotilla, diplomatic and military ties have been at a bare minimum.

    In response to Elbit’s statement, the Defense Ministry stated: “The Defense Ministry is holding regular discussions with all of the relevant authorities and decisions are made on a professional basis and in line with security and diplomatic considerations.”



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    The diplomatic crisis with Ankara intensified on Thursday when the Defense Ministry decided not to renew an export license for Elbit Systems and Israel Aerospace Industries to sell advanced intelligence systems to the Turkish Air Force. Defense officials said Israel was working to improve ties with Ankara but that the ministry was “responsible for every product that receives an export license” and that it could not currently permit the delivery of the intelligence- gathering systems to Turkey. “This has to do strictly with this system and should not impact the overall ties between the countries,” an official said.
    The $140 million deal, signed in 2009, was for the sale of the advanced infrared Lorop camera and associated equipment. Developed by Elbit subsidiary El-Op, the camera is installed in a pod which can be carried on combat aircraft. The systems were supposed to be delivered to Turkey in the coming months. Both IAI and Elbit are in talks with Defense Ministry director- general Udi Shani about the expected economic implications and the possibility that they will be exposed to Turkish lawsuits for reneging on the contract.
    Elbit revealed the Defense Ministry decision in a statement to the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange, saying that the company was in talks with Shani about receiving compensation for the refusal to renew the export license. “At the present time, there is not an estimate of the amount of the damages that may result from the nonrenewal of the export authorizations. Such damages may have a material impact on the company’s financial results,” Elbit said.
    Israel’s ties with Turkey hit rock-bottom earlier this year, when Ankara expelled the Israeli ambassador after the United Nations published its report on the 2010 flotilla incident. The report justified Israel’s sea blockade over the Gaza Strip. Since the flotilla, diplomatic and military ties have been at a bare minimum.
    In response to Elbit’s statement, the Defense Ministry stated: “The Defense Ministry is holding regular discussions with all of the relevant authorities and decisions are made on a professional basis and in line with security and diplomatic considerations.”
     
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    we are talking about condor 2 spy pod an elbit systems best seller (Singapore , rok , India )
    this is not a a tavor assault rifle it is highly classified and sold only to close friends
    the only analogue is American and they only sell "monkey version"
    link:Condor 2
     
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    Well the Turks asked for it. You cannot take emotional decisions and not regret it in the future.
     
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    They already alienate Israel and France, let us see when they piss the US off to lose their F-35s.
     
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    The Israeli Turkey equation is not at its best.

    A neat way for Israel to indicate displeasure.
     
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    The US is too bewildered at the moment to clearly see through the fog of changing ME geopolitical landscape. I don't think policy-makers in Washington will seriously entertain redrawing relations with Turkey at this time. They will still try to rebalance these 2 crucial allies and will even dangle something to the Turkish just to appease them. The US can only hope that a more friendlier Government take power in Turkey (a pipe dream right now).
     
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    While that is the possible case I agree, however, Turkey is just one of the many participants that if it becomes uncontrollable, can be replaced with a little pressure on Japan and South Korea (Japan is not in good shape but they will toe US line anyway). If things get really out of hand, then CIA might arrange 6 dozen someone specials for Erdogan ..lol.

    I know I must not be saying this lightly, but Erdogan is an idiot fantasizing himself as some Ottoman sultan who can rule over middle East with the current move towards Multi-polar world. He is taking a prosperous and only reasonable Islamic Middle Eastern nation in the region on a path that Turks rationally won't favor.


    First Israel then France.. who's next? Germany and UK? Germany is a key supplier of tech to Turks. If Erdogan does that, Turkey might as well call the last Caliph's son back and go back to 1900s and forget all about technical advancement.

    This Erdogan is going to only take Turkey into trouble.
     
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    Obama has already threatened them with withholding critical weapon systems if they don't play nice.
     
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    This is sound byte for the elections, to appease the powerful Jewish block who have been very unhappy lately with Obama's open dislike to the current Israeli government. But after elections the reality will settle in. Strategic planners in Washington will not gamble on losing Turkey.
     
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    ..... duplicate
     
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    It is both about Israel and Iran. The Jewish lobby controls much about ME foreign policy and relations with Turkey are at an all time low. It isn't looking good for Turkeys. If they aren't considered a reliable ally, they won't get the high tech weapons.
     
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    is this the same on our Su-30MKI's???

    Su-30MKI-reconnaissance Version.
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    may be i am no sure witch platform the the iaf uses for espionage
    we use both f 15 and f 16 to carry condor
    i remember upgrading mig 29 k (4 pieces for) condor external avionics
    the rest (8 pieces) got eg pod silo attachment
     
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    U.S. Congress initiated a bill prohibiting the supply of arms of Turkey

    BAKU, December 27 - 1NEWS.AZ. In the U.S. Congress introduced a bill imposing a ban on arms supplies to Turkey for anti-terrorist operations.

    According to 1news.az with reference to Turkish media, the question is, in particular, military helicopters Super Cobra, which supplies to fight the terrorist Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), Ankara promised President Barack Obama.

    The authors of the bill - Congress Shelley Berkley and Eliot Engel - believe that the arming of Turkey from the United States is inadmissible because of the "relations of Ankara to the EU, the threats to Israel, the occupation of Cyprus, the Armenian oppression," writes the Washington post.

    It should be noted that on 28 October the Pentagon informed Congress of its intention to sell three military helicopters in Turkey.

    According to experts, Congress and the Pentagon faces another "battle" - when the supply of unmanned aircraft in Turkey.

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