Is LeT on US' leash?

[johnee]

^^DD, cool one. So, its clear that US uses Pakistan as a proxy against India. But Pakistan itself uses LeT as a proxy against India. So, the question is what influence does the US weild on LeT? When India tries to corner or defeat LeT, we need to be able to properly understand how US looks/feels about LeT, isnt it?

Another interesting query popped up in my mind, mumbai gave an indirect leverage to US on India. Indian PM depended heavily on US for nailing Pakistan, of course US helped in bits and pieces. So, could US have been co-conspirator in 26/11? Alternatively, could US know(but not get involved) in 26/11 but not inform India?

 

[ahmedsid]

DD, US is making Pakistan Fight the Taliban and the fights going on!!! Is Pakistan moving even its pinky against LeT? NOPE!

 

[johnee]

DD, US is making Pakistan Fight the Taliban and the fights going on!!! Is Pakistan moving even its pinky against LeT? NOPE!

Ahmed, we actually cannot say how much PA is cooperating with US on its western front. We dont know whether PA has the power today to take on LeT without huge backlash...

 

[ahmedsid]

Ahmed, we actually cannot say how much PA is cooperating with US on its western front. We dont know whether PA has the power today to take on LeT without huge backlash...

If they Touch the LeT Azaaaad Kaaashmir will Burn for sure!! The LeT has grown its tentacles all over Pakistan and yes, if today two bombs go off in Pakistan, after LeT is taken on, 6 will go off. Thats the thing, but then if Pakistan really wants to do it, they can because in the long term, kicking these buggers will be the best thing they can do. Sadly, they dont have the galls!

 

[ajtr]

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[ajtr]

How L-e-t evolved and used by usa/pak on india

LeT was formed in 1986 and trained along with Afghan Mujahids.
LeT became covertly anti-India and "Kashmir freedom fighters" around 1991
LeT became overtly anti-India in 1997
LeT made direct attack in India proper from 2001 with Parliament attack.
LeT started building links with SIMI inside India.
LeT made the major attack on Mumbai in 2008


So we see that LeT has progressed in a systematic manner and each major LeT attack was used as a geopolitical game by various countries including US

 

[Daredevil]

DD, US is making Pakistan Fight the Taliban and the fights going on!!! Is Pakistan moving even its pinky against LeT? NOPE!

It tool almost 10 years to make Pakistan act against Afghan Taliban. But Pakistan is taking only token action and killing lower tier Taliban while keeping the core Afghan Taliban intact. Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, Haqqani netwowk, Quetta Shura are intact, they are the ones troubling the US/NATO in Afghanistan. PA is preserving them for the time when US exits Afghanistan, so that they can rule Afghanistan by proxy. Pakistan is taking action mainly against TTP, the taliban against Pakistan. We need to look at the actions of PA against Taliban in a very nuanced way to be able to see what is PA actually is doing.

If they Touch the LeT Azaaaad Kaaashmir will Burn for sure!! The LeT has grown its tentacles all over Pakistan and yes, if today two bombs go off in Pakistan, after LeT is taken on, 6 will go off. Thats the thing, but then if Pakistan really wants to do it, they can because in the long term, kicking these buggers will be the best thing they can do. Sadly, they dont have the galls!

LeT is nothing but PA without military uniforms. LeT never had done anything against Pakistan, so you can imagine who they are. LeT is firmly under the control of PA and is actually a part of PA. They are very useful in attacking India and giving the PA plausible deniability in such actions. PA is never going to take action against LeT. It is as simple as that.

 

[ajtr]

India is wasting time and money and lives by concentrating on L-e-t and pakistan,where as the situation demand india must concentrate more on usa.threaten usa and see how pak and l-e-t both get automatically reigned in.

 

[johnee]

India is wasting time and money and lives by concentrating on L-e-t and pakistan,where as the situation demand india must concentrate more on usa.threaten usa and see how pak and l-e-t both get automatically reigned in.

India must work at different levels. The fact is that we cant do anything to thwart US directly, we need to work on Pakistan only. And the best model before us in 71, use the ethinic strife to divide the nation, then US will eventually come around to accepting the new situation. What India must do is not succumb to the pressure put by US and do what needs to be done.

 

[Phenom]

I don't think US has anything to do with targeting India, L e T is under the complete control of ISI, unlike other organisations like Jaish which seems to be operating on their own. US has some influence over l e t through ISI, they can force the ISI to not carry out any further attacks on India and ISI will make sure l-e-t doesn't do that.

About providing weapons to Pakistan, it seems to me US is doing it to please Pakistan and protects its own interest in Afganistan, it doesn't have any thing to do with targeting India, why would the US even want to target India? US won't go out of its way to help India, but I don't think they are actively involved in trying to harm India either.

 

[johnee]

Phenom,

Reposting the article that DD posted earlier in the thread:

Two of the three regional balances of power are collapsed or in jeopardy. The 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq and the failure to quickly put a strong, anti-Iranian government in place in Baghdad, has led to the collapse of the central balance of power — with little hope of resurrection. The eastern balance of power between Pakistan and India is also in danger of toppling. The Afghan war has caused profound stresses in Pakistan, and there are scenarios in which we can imagine Pakistan’s power dramatically weakening or even cracking. It is unclear how this will evolve, but what is clear is that it is not in the interest of the United States because it would destroy the native balance of power with India. The United States does not want to see India as the unchallenged power in the subcontinent any more than it wants to see Pakistan in that position. The United States needs a strong Pakistan to balance India, and its problem now is how to manage the Afghan war — a side issue strategically — without undermining the strategic interest of the United States, an Indo-Pakistani balance of power.

http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20100322_netanyahuobama_meeting_context

Given these long term interests of US(which directly collide with those of India), could LeT be seen as a viable option against India by US? Remember, Afghanistan is a side issue in the larger geo-strategic game. All that US cares for in Astan is that it can get a safe exit without any more body bags, and that would be enough. Pakistan, US' proxy for the region, would be given the responsibility of controlling and managing the Astan. The only prerequisite would be that US and the NATO nations' interests are not directly attacked by Taliban or such other groups. India is a fair target as far as US is concerned. One just needs to notice the US' behaviour regarding terrorism sponsored by Pakistan against India to realise that if US or NATO is not attacked, US would not mind the use of proxies against India.

Make no mistake, without the proxies, India would have absolute conventional edge over the region(not withstanding the China) and can easily become the most important country in this geography. As mentioned in the above article, US does not wish to see that eventuality. The only country that lends itself to be used as a rent boy to US in this region is Pakistan. Thats the reason, Pakistan has been nurtured by US from a long time back. Afghanistan is simply an excuse. US has always been arming Pakistan. Actually, if you think about it, if US is having problem with PA in Afghanistan, then should not the US try to weaken the PA(or threaten to do it) instead of rewarding them with more weapons and dollars?

 

[johnee]

Old, ancient, from time beyond memory - this was found on the walls of Ajanta-Ellora:

Why Af-Pak is Fak-Ap...///////////