Is Jaguar really a deep penetration strike aircraft ?

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  1. ashdoc

    ashdoc Senior Member Senior Member

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    In my opinion it can at the most be classified as an attack aircraft........it neither has the range ,nor the payload capacity to be called a DPSA.

    A DPSA must have a range exceeding 1000 km , and a large payload capacity .

    But the combat radius of the Jaguar is only about 500 km without external fuel tanks ,and with them ( which reduces the weapons it carries to only 2000 kg ) ,it is only 800 km.

    In the earlier days our Jaguars did not even have external refuelling pods to extend their range.

    Its payload capacity is only 4000 kg.

    Even the f-16 has more payload capacity ,at 5000 kg.

    Now real DPSA aircraft are tornado , f-15E strike eagle , sukhoi 24 , sukhoi 34 etc.

    They have combat radius of 1400-1800 km and can carry 8000 to 10,000 kg of weapons.

    While the mig 27 can be called a close air support aircraft at the most,the jaguar is an attack aircraft only.........if DPSA capability is possessed by any aircraft with us , it is by the sukhoi-30 ,which has a combat radius ( without refuelling ,but with external tanks ) of 1500 km ,and a payload of 8000kg.
     
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  3. luckyy

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    before the induction of SU-30MKI , the responsibility of penetrate deep & strike was on Jaguar ,that time 800km range of Jaguar was considered good to penetrate & strike pakistan...

    but the time has changed ,SU-30MKI has actually changed the vision of IAF , IAF is now more focused on china , ....

    now there is talk of inducting SU-34 , which has a range of 4000km
     
  4. pankaj nema

    pankaj nema Senior Member Senior Member

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    Jaguar was the FIRST plane IAF selected when IAF went for massive modernisation in 1981 after F 16 sale was announced to Pakistan.
    But it took a while for it to be delivered and MIG 23 came earlier.

    After the recent upgradation and a better engine which is being planned It is still a useful strike aircraft.

    The range and payload limitations are of course there BUT we need "numbers" too for a war.

    Jaguar ,Mig 21 , and Mig 27 might look old and outdated but we need these planes for 10 more years till LCA mk 2, MMRCA , PAK FA , and Su 30 Mki are added in LARGE NUMBERS.
     
  5. Rama

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    india was offerd the mirage2000 but instead chose the jugar that was a very bad desion how different the iaf would be had the proper desion been made
     
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    IIRC Jaguar is one of the finest CAS craft
     
  7. SATISH

    SATISH DFI Technocrat Stars and Ambassadors

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    First one needs to understand how our strike tactics work. We fly low and fast. Jaguar was designed for the same purpose. Jaguar was an aircraft which fitted the role perfectly. It can stay well beneath the radar and those were the days when there were no AWACS available and most of the aircraft didnt have look down and shoot down capability.
     
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    I have a video about the Jaguar strike aircraft in my documentary thread. Here it is for anyone wanting to gain more knowledge about it.


     
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    It was not true. IAF was offered Su-24 with license production by USSR, but why did IAF choose Jaguar ?
    Mirage-2000 was designed in 1970's..... But India brought Jaguar in 1960's........
     
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    Indian Air Force :: Quarter Century of the Jaguar in India

    hope this will help solve the question at hand

     
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    Indian Air Force :: Quarter Century of the Jaguar in India

    hope this will help solve the question at hand

     
  12. smartindian

    smartindian Regular Member

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    hello sir jaguar was introduce in 1973 in raf then how can we get it in 1960's
     
  13. shaka

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    Current role of Jaguar in IAF is of a sort of Bomb truck. It will most likely be used once air superiority is achieved. Su30MKI and M2000 will be used for deep penetration strike currently in case of a hot conflict. MKI most likely since it has range, payload and best counter measures currently in IAF. Once air launched Brahmos is inducted we can talk of serious deep penetration:happy_2:
     
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  14. bhramos

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    i mean it was introduced into service. so IAF only gets any plane after a decade of entering into service!!!!
    @F-14, but Su-24 is a twin engined fighter. more powerful then Jaguar and more range and Payload...........
     
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    i also think why the Fencer was not chosen
     
  16. SATISH

    SATISH DFI Technocrat Stars and Ambassadors

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    We already had enough problems with the MiG 23 during that time. And being a swing wing design made the fencer servicability a nightmare. And we also wanted diversity in our inventory that time too.
     
  17. charlie

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    it was not a good CAS aircraft only A10 & su 25 are good CAS aircraft
     

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