Is India a US ally aligned with America against Russia and China

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    India aligns with the US against China and Russia. ?

    India’s recent moves are putting India’s multipolar commitment in doubt and raise questions about whether India has defected to the US’s unipolar system.

    India used to be universally acclaimed for being a multipolar pillar in the emerging world order. The country played a pivotal role in BRICS and in the larger globally transformative processes that are currently underway.

    Historically as one of the founder members of the Non-Aligned Movement India has been respected for its wise pragmatism and its ability to engage any partner on a win-win basis.

    India now looks ready to abandon its geopolitical traditions. It seems to be starting a new foreign policy trajectory openly siding with the US against China in the New Cold War.

    Prime Minister Modi (image right) has made a series of moves over the past month which show that India’s strategic calculations have radically changed since US Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter visited the subcontinent last month.



    In this article I shall discuss the elements of India’s anti-Chinese pivot, with an emphasis on the “Logistic Service Agreement” and the consequences of the Azhar-Isa affair.

    In a subsequent article I shall discuss the long-term consequences if India continues to abide by its new policies and how this will lead unavoidably to an intensified Chinese-Indian Cold War encompassing the ASEAN, Himalayan, and Central Asian theatres.

    I will also look into the global stakes and how India by its realignment with the US may inadvertently be on the cusp of sabotaging the successes the emerging multipolar world order has managed to make up to this point.

    India’s Anti-Chinese Pivot

    In the course of only a single month, India has surprised the world by radically pivoting to an anti-Chinese policy that has Washington’s “Lead From Behind” fingerprints all over it.

    The “Logistic Service Agreement”

    US Defence Secretary Ashton Carter visited India in April.

    Whilst this visit was presented as a “routine visit” by most media outlets, Ashton Carter’s comments about the emerging US-Indian Strategic Partnership, which he predicted “will define the 21st century”, attracted a lot of attention.

    Underpinning the rhetoric is the so-called “Logistic Support Agreement” (LSA) the US and India are currently negotiating with each other. This is essentially a blend of the “Host Mission Support Agreements” that NATO has concluded with Finland and Sweden and the transit agreement that NATO has recently agreed with Serbia.

    Reuters quotes US military officials as saying that the LSA “would allow the two militaries to use each other’s land, air and naval bases for resupplies, repair and rest”.

    What that means in practice is that the US has effectively acquired the right to deploy full-spectrum rotational forces anywhere throughout India on a preplanned case-by-case basis in order to “contain China”.

    Although not yet signed, Ashton Carter’s major achievement was that the two sides agreed “in principle” to conclude negotiations for the LSA in the near future. It is believed that only the amount of financial compensation and other related technical details remain to be agreed before the deal enters into force presumably later this year.

    Aircraft Carrier Cooperation

    In parallel with the LSA, the US announced that it would assist New Delhi to build its first domestically built aircraft carrier.

    Ashton Carter revealed during his visit that the US will share state-of-the-art technology with its Indian counterparts, thus substantially deepening the emerging alliance between them.

    It is an open secret that India’s navy will be used to “contain” China in the Indian Ocean Region. The unprecedented level of naval cooperation between the two sides therefore has to be seen through the geopolitical prism of this shared objective to “contain” China.

    If symbolism has any meaning, it’s also important that the Indian Defense Minister invited Carter onto India’s premier aircraft carrier, the INS Vikramaditya.

    Not only does this demonstrate India’s willingness to show the world just how good its relations with the US are right now, but it is also significant that this was originally a Russian-built ship making this a strong signal that India is diversifying its military-technical relations towards the West at the expense of its traditional Russian partner.

    Raw data provides the proof. Although Russia still provides the bulk of India’s weapons, the US has recentlyedged it out, becoming in recent years India’s largest vendor, indicating that Russia is gradually losing its strategic position in the Indian market.

    Inviting Ashton Carter to step onto the deck of a Russian-built aircraft carrier rubs salt into the Russian defence industry’s wounds.

    The Azhar-Isa Affair

    I have previously discussed this event in detail in an article for the Moscow-based Katehon think tank.

    Briefly, India extended a visa to Dolkun Isa, one of the most notorious “political” figures providing political cover for the Uighur terrorist movement. China had earlier accused this person of supporting terrorism and Interpol has a “red corner notice” on him. He was nonetheless invited by the Indian government to attend a broad gathering of anti-Chinese separatist and regime change groups hosted by the US-based “Initiatives For China/Citizen Power For China” – widely acknowledged to be CIA front organisation.

    Just about all of the other anti-Chinese groups that were supposed to attend this conference – which included Tibetan, Xinjiang, Inner Mongolian, and “pro-democracy” groups – are also US-based and are equally hostile to the Chinese authorities.

    The unavoidable conclusion is that India intentionally collaborated with the US to host US proxies in Dharamsala – a location provocatively close to the Chinese border.

    The Indian media justified all this in articles heavy with nationalist rhetoric that argued that the visa was extended to Dolkun Isa because China had previously stonewalled India’s UN proposal to put accused Pakistani-based terrorist Masood Azhar on a UN terrorist list.

    In my previous Katehon piece I pointed out that India – more so than any other country – knows China cannot interfere in a bilateral dispute between Pakistan and India and certainly cannot appear to side with India in a dispute of this sort. I explained that New Delhi only brought up this issue in order to justify its decision to host a gathering of anti-Chinese separatist and terrorist groups in Dharamsala.

    Though India eventually cancelled Dolkun Isa’s visa, since New Delhi still allowed the conference to take place this has the look of a classic bait-and-switch exercise.

    The US-based “Initiatives For China/Citizen Power For China” umbrella group now favoured by India is also distinctly anti-Russian. It previously organized a conference lobbying for the passage of the extra-judicial so-called “Global Magnitsky Bill”. It even prioritizes this Bill as its third most important project behind the “Tiananmen Massacre Memory of World Registrar” and “Finding 2 Tank Men” ahead of its “Hong Kong Occupy Central” movement.

    By hosting this anti-Chinese organisation Indian Prime Minister Modi’s government was also hosting an anti-Russian organisation, making this look like a subtle anti-Moscow message as well as an open anti-Beijing one.

    The Azhar-Isa affair exploded shortly after Ashton Carter’s visit. Ashton Carter almost certainly discussed this affair in some way with his Indian hosts during his visit probably with a view to providing future ‘situational justification’ for the LSA and for the deployment of American air, sea, and land forces in India next to China’s Tibetan and Yunnan borders.

    Hostility To The New Silk Road

    India has been visibly upset ever since China announced last year that it would build the $46 billion China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) through Pakistani-administered Kashmir.

    India’s media and academic community have issued mild condemnations of this over the course of the previous year.

    New Delhi however has now stepped up its criticism after Ashton Carter’s visit with Colonel SD Goswami, a spokesman of India’s Udhampur-headquartered Northern Command, saying that “The government has conveyed its concerns to China…and asked them to cease such activities”.

    This anti-New Silk Road rhetoric would not have been possible without behind-the-scenes encouragement from the US, which is clearly backing it as part of its global Hybrid War campaign to sabotage China’s Silk Road strategy.

    China will not stop construction of this mega-project because of Indian complaints, no matter how strongly the US backs them. India knows this.

    It is therefore likely that the escalation of rhetoric around this project was initiated as part of a pre-planned information campaign to justify tightening the anti-Chinese US-Indian Strategic Partnership with the claim that India “has no choice” because “China just won’t listen”.

    The US-Indian Naval Alliance

    An important component of the larger US-Indian Strategic Partnership is the enhanced naval cooperation between the two countries, which – like every other part of their new alliance – is predicated on “containing China”.

    Aside from the important aircraft carrier cooperation and other military-technical aspects that were discussed earlier, the two sides are reported to have discussed joint anti-submarine warfare strategies.

    In addition India is expected to take part in US-led multilateral exercises in June, which will be held provocatively in the Philippine Sea. Although not directly adjacent to the South China Sea, this location is adjacent to the East China Sea where Beijing and Tokyo are locked in a bitter dispute over contested island territories.

    India’s participation in anti-submarine warfare exercises so close to a potential conflict zone in tandem with the US, Japan, and other anti-Chinese navies is a worrying sign that India is serious about confronting China both in the Indian Ocean Region and right on Beijing’s own East Asian doorstep.

    Considering how important maritime trade routes are for the still-growing Chinese economy and its global One Belt One Road commercial network plans, the US-assisted rise of the Indian Navy as a trans-regional operating force between the Indian Ocean Region and the South China Sea/East China Sea could prove threatening to China in the coming years.

    Not only is India doubling down on its strategic collaboration with the US, but it is also trying to “localise” its presence through multilateral cooperation with ASEAN’s maritime members under the ‘plausibly deniable’ aegis of promoting “freedom of navigation”.

    India’s latest participation in ASEAN naval drills combined with its growing anti-Chinese strategic partnership with the US can be seen as signalling its intent to institutionalise its presence in the South China Sea.

    Whilst China and Russia are also taking part in these exercises, Moscow obviously is not seeking to “contain” China, whilst Beijing’s role should be seen in the larger framework of its normal relations with countries which are its maritime neighbours.

    By contrast India’s participation in naval exercises alongside Japan, the US, and Australia imply involvement in a prospective anti-Chinese naval alliance that will eventually involve Vietnam and the Philippines.

    The original source of this article is TheDuran
    Copyright Andrew Korybko, TheDuran, 2016
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    USA & China (vs) RUSSIA & INDIA seems to be changed to USA & INDIA (vs) RUSSIA & china.

    Which looks kind of wife swapping :) But INDIA should not let down its ties with RUSSIA . Which will corner china with its dirty tricks... neither we should not believe China and Usa, they are best lovers behind closed doors.

    If you observe carefully the more INDIA is concerned about china's maneuvering , USA is trying to cater greater lip service in favor of India but not in realistic sense of supplying equipment or concrete willingness to favour. In a sense infuriating rivalry between India vs China at every opportunity. At the same time USA is supplying pakis there share of toys.

    The only losers are INDIA en Russia, where Russia is loosing India appeal for Russian weapons due to its cosiness with new bit_h china. And Indian interests are undermined at every level.

    So neither USA is providing India with strategic depth and at the same time Russia is loosing business.

    Usa wont help India until we are ready to sign on suicide note, its agenda is wait until such environment builds up or make it happen from china and paki threat. I wont be surprised if we later find out that USA and China are hand in glove.
     
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    What strategic depth is Russia providing for India?


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    You have explained in detailed manner...
    We should not lose Russian trust..
    America is a kind of playboy...use them and throw em...example can b seen.
    BJP is seen more tilt towards America ....I don't know why :(
     
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    Not strategic depth....but its our need....
    Our IAF equipment is Russian...and will use Russian in future...
    America has good platform...but can't believe those boyz.
     
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    Good points. In line with what I was thinking.
    I also have the feeling that falling into the US trap will, in time, increase the internal instability problems of the Indian Union.
     
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    With what u will fight?
    Listen....we are progressing...plz don't bring war and ruin oir dreams plz.
    PLA is much advanced than IA.
    We MAY defend but will suffer with heavy casualties...U can bring chola incident..
    That time India was on higher positions...
    No need of war...a grand revolt from naxals is enough to hurt us...lets clean our country from inside....we don't have guts to crush commie movement?
    Lets be man inside our nation...
    Plz no more war.
     
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    maybe I believe that kind of support from Russia when UK and USA tried to surround us with AC carriers during 1971 war . That kind of Iron man effect we should let Russia have in south Asia. It proved its leadership qualities by not letting Syria invaded.

    What I mean is If there is likely a war with china , Russia should not supply it spares or weapons against India. Thats enough for us to get weapons from other sources like obvious uncle sam.
     
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    Ur wrong China is bi_ch inviting Russia against USA, India is NAM country which say gaand marvavo app dono :)
     
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    In your wet dreams China dares to do that it will loose Tibet, keep no doubts about it. Saying so china will further have to accept democracy and share bed with Japan masters.
     
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    Russia selling same planes to China and they can be trusted? Again you described a buyer seller relation what is the strategic benefit?



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    1971 what did Russia do apart from send a sub? A Russian military member here (Vladimir) said it was just a routine patrol for the Russians they were not going to stick their neck out for India. This was 45 years ago now Pak and China both have nukes pointed at India and Russia has not come to India's rescue.


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    I think you are making a prediction after the fact


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    Again that American lobbyist is back. :dude:
     
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    If India was pro west after independence India would have been a much different country today the prosperity in India today is from a pro western view while the conmie lovers of the past threw the country into the gutter.




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    Do not make assumptions or make a personal statement . If your are implying anything towards me.


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    we dont want war but china is preparing for it

    if people in india still do not know what you have written above then the country is in deep trouble

    now china is inside pakistan and surrounding india .....we cant be non aligned any more
    that was JN's legacy and a HUGE mistake - ( as usual )

    time to align with usa - even openly ....just none of their boots on our ground ...we have enough manpower

    we can give them enough incentives to design the relationship our way
    but we should ally with them

    start allowing them to train us IMMEDIATELY is what i say

    we do not havve to be agaisnt russia , as they are supplying uus , but they are also supplying china and todays news ;-

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...d-up-on-India-border/articleshow/52265400.cms

    WASHINGTON: China has increased defence capabilities and deployed more troops along the Indian border, the Pentagon has said, as it warned of increasing Chinese military presence including bases in various parts of the world, particularly Pakistan.

    and for those who dismiss this as US propaganda, the last time we said the same thing was around 1961 december .....just before the war .

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    He wasn't implying you. He was implying the member he quoted i.e. Pin aka banned member saty.


    Maybe you are right.
    But I doubt this (current matter) is about communism/capitalism, but more related to geopolitics and global dominance.
     
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    Can't you be Indian instead of lobbyist? :p
    And if you love west more than India, you must have born there.
    We poor Indians can't give you all that lavishness. :p
    Not towards you, but towards whom I'm pointing out, he has surely got it.
    You don't need to worry.
    It's an interesting story.
    Saty? :doh: I'm really a stupid who could not recognize even after such familiarity in post. :biggrin2:
    Anti Muslim, pro Western, and wants his own country to be American colony. Look buddy @Pin , I'm still not sure you're @saty or not, please don't be like him(or like what you're being).
    It's India, here you'll say Jai Hind before Make America etc etc.
     
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    Guys, please stop this discussion based on a globalresearch article.

    India has not abandoned Russia. India's moves are calculated and designed at self protection in an environment of considerable and increasing threat from China.

    Unfortunately Russia cannot help India in such circumstances.

    It is important for India to take any practical measures to defend territorial integrity of country.
     
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