IRAN - a new Enemy ? Iran seizes Indian ship carrying oil from Iraq

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    Iran seizes Indian ship carrying oil from Iraq - The Economic Times


    Is IRAN on a verge of becoming an enemy of India ? What would be consequences at both sides ?
     
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    Re: IRAN - a new Enemy ? Iran seizes Indian ship carrying oil from Ira

    Hostility with Iran and forget ambitions in Afghanistan and the north south trade corridor.

    too early to comment upon it.

    Till date Iran is friendly.
     
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    Re: IRAN - a new Enemy ? Iran seizes Indian ship carrying oil from Ira

    Its China. I wrote about this a few days back. Forget chabahar now.
     
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    Re: IRAN - a new Enemy ? Iran seizes Indian ship carrying oil from Ira

    Probably it was due to oil slippage alert. No need to cry foul so early. However, some media reports made it look like an action against reducing import from Iran. We should wait for the details.
     
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    Re: IRAN - a new Enemy ? Iran seizes Indian ship carrying oil from Ira

    Let's hope so. However, we shouldn't forget that IRANIs are opportunists !

    It's the same IRAN which supplied ammunitions to Pak during 1965 war !!
     
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    Re: IRAN - a new Enemy ? Iran seizes Indian ship carrying oil from Ira

    Could you please elaborate ? What's the role of China in this context ?
     
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    Re: IRAN - a new Enemy ? Iran seizes Indian ship carrying oil from Ira

    Perhaps, you are correct and I wish that for too.
     
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    Re: IRAN - a new Enemy ? Iran seizes Indian ship carrying oil from Ira

    China paid Iran to do that ?
     
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    Re: IRAN - a new Enemy ? Iran seizes Indian ship carrying oil from Ira

    A friend in need is a friend indeed. What has India offered Iran at Iranian's most fragile moment?

    But look how Chinese are helping Iran? Bypassing sanctions, China gives Iran subway cars for oil | iPolitics

    Iran shall join SCO for peace-keeping in Afghanistan.
     
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    Re: IRAN - a new Enemy ? Iran seizes Indian ship carrying oil from Ira

    It's a nice proverb :) that's it.

    Well, IRANIs would be certainly knowing that what India has offered.


    Chinese govt couldn't transfer money in a usual way hence, it's just a barter arrangement. What's the big deal ?

    It's very unlikely that, SCO would be allowed to land in Afghanistan. Iran joining SCO ? it's a possibility but it's very unlikely to say that, it would work. Best of luck to SCO !
     
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    Re: IRAN - a new Enemy ? Iran seizes Indian ship carrying oil from Ira

    Oil spillage in high seas is a dangerous thing, in many western countries the crew will thrown in jail for such a crime. Kindly make a mountain out of a molehill .
    Regards
     
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    Re: IRAN - a new Enemy ? Iran seizes Indian ship carrying oil from Ira

    Iran likes to shoot itself in the foot once in a while. This comes in the back of Chidu's statement that India is going to increase its Iranian Oil Imports. And we are still one of the largest Oil Customers of Iran.

    India has recently become the largest Oil Importing Customer of Iraq too, maybe Iran is displeased that we are dealing with them and not Iran. (Its another matter than Iraqi Oil dealings generally required Iranian blessings).
     
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    Re: IRAN - a new Enemy ? Iran seizes Indian ship carrying oil from Ira

    A country doesn't become enemy just because some of it's citizens seize a ship of another country, the business of getting needed resources decides long term relations.
     
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    Re: IRAN - a new Enemy ? Iran seizes Indian ship carrying oil from Ira

    stopping a vessel in international waters without proper reasons is surely a matter of concern.increasing china-Iran ties surely will dwarf our relation
     
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    Re: IRAN - a new Enemy ? Iran seizes Indian ship carrying oil from Ira

    I think China has already coaxed Iran into selling out on India on chabahar. This is the start of some drama leading to downgrading of ties and then hand over to China.
     
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    why not merge two ports into one ? Chabahar is so close to Gwadar, redundant and undesired competition. Iran shall think of the big picture to extend pipelines thru PAK to Kashgar, then win-win-win!

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    Re: IRAN - a new Enemy ? Iran seizes Indian ship carrying oil from Ira

    Iran isn't enemy of India today. India needs Iran to encircle Pakistan, a common enemy of both them. Iran-India cooperation is the only chance to pull off the Afghanistan from paki hands, as exemplified in Chabahar port and roads

    And India needs also the Iranian gas to sustain its economical growth. In other hand Iran needs access to the important Indian energy market to escape from international oil sales sanction.

    The main hope to Iranians increase their revenues is the IPI pipeline. If the relations with India deteriorates, Iran can forget the IPI.
     
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    Re: IRAN - a new Enemy ? Iran seizes Indian ship carrying oil from Ira

    All states of world are opportunists.

    In 1965, the context was different from today. Iran was ruled by the Shah's regime and an ally of US in the Cold War as well as Pakistan also was. Whereas India was a USSR big partner. So Iran would support Pakistan obeying the will of its American boss. Today Iran-Pak relations changed fully. Iran is a enemy of US and the Shia-Sunni rivalry increased a lot.
     
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    No its not the same iran. Back then it was run by yankee puppet shah and was ordered to by usa to aid pakistan.

    read up history a bit more.
     
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    Re: IRAN - a new Enemy ? Iran seizes Indian ship carrying oil from Ira

    Good point. China has only nominally reduced its Iran imports, whereas we have reduced our Iran imports quite significantly.

    However, Iraq Oil is virtually the same as Iran Oil. This is some kind of signalling. Chidu as it is said that we want to increase our Iran imports, perhaps Iran is a bit more impatient and desperate.

    Globally, Iran is running out of allies, and if they want to antagonize India its their wish.

    We have also shifted focus away from Middle East, now we are Nigerian Oil's largest customer, and also buying significant quantities from Latin America.
     
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