INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

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  1. Shaitan

    Shaitan Zandu balm all day Senior Member

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    INSAS MK1C Full Auto

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  2. Kunal Biswas

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    Who said that it has a different role, I and dead against its induction ..

    But again, Its better to have indigenous over unreliable, unfamiliar imported hardware ..

     
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    I saw a jam occuring in Ghatak in this video at 01:40.My guess is this is a failure to extract from chamber,as the bolt carrier is stopped at the half length of magazine so new cartridge might get extracted from magazine but stopped in between from feeding into the chamber due to this failure and tip of the new round is hitting on the end of former stucked cartridge.

    Visual Representation of what might've happened there.This gun is Ruger Mini-14.
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    Alternatively it could be a failure to feed as well,in which the round extracted from magazine doesn't get properly aligned to the chamber and stucks between the chamber and bolt carrier group.

    Visual representation of what might've happened in this case,Rifle is Zastava M70 (Yugoslavian/Croatian/Serbain variant of AKM)
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  4. Doc Mozart

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    Absolutely but i would rather see the army get their hands on the aar first rather than the mk1c. Not to belittle mk1c but i think aar deserves a chance.
     
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  5. Kunal Biswas

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    Pictures from CT operations ..

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    IRDE sight mounted on AK from recent operation at J&K.
     
  6. Vishal Chandorkar

    Vishal Chandorkar New Member

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    Could you plz elaborate, why you are against its induction....
     
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  7. Kunal Biswas

    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    There are many reason, including personal experience ..

    I have stated all in depth in last few pages, Its not feasible to reproduce all that in one post ..

    Please go through this thread ..

     
  8. shafiq alam

    shafiq alam Regular Member

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    Thanks for the great pics Kunal love the standard issue winter sock on the lmg magazine
    is there a practicle reason for that?
     
  9. Kunal Biswas

    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    The translucent magazine help the user to know about the remaining rounds in the magazine but in irregular warfare where terrorist hidden among common people can also see it ..
     
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    JVPC
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    Excalibur Mk-1

    Production of JVPC , GHATAK & Excalibur MK-1 Rifle in full swing. Around 800+ JVPC , 1000+ Ghatak & 600+ Excalibur MK-1s are being produced. More orders are expected in coming months as trials are going on with the Police & CAPFs.
    Source: INDRA
     
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    Judging by forefrip, there seems to be three different distinct version of JVPC. Any input on that?
     
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  12. Kunal Biswas

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    That Excalibur MK1 looks lot like Improved 1B1s that came in 2013 ..

    Unless one carefully see the gas block, I am sure there are other difference too ..

     
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    Love to see lots of tried and tested features of improved 1B1 are retained in excalibur mk1.
     
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    Early virsion of excalibur and this is diff.
     

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  15. Vishal Chandorkar

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    From what I understand, the Excalibur mk1c and the Insas 1c is the same rifle..chambered for 5.56*45mm. Could someone please confirm.

    Also, what is the difference in weight between the Insas 1c/Excalibur mk1c and the OFB developed 7.62*51mm rifle? If someone could give specs of both, would be great to see the difference in their dimensions etc
     
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    Kshithij DharmaYoddha Senior Member

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    It is unfair to compare weights of guns of calibre 5.56x45 and 7.62x51. They are miles apart in terms of firepower, muzzle energy, magazine weight, cartridge weight and barrel pressure.
     
  17. Vishal Chandorkar

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    Yes, I do understand that.....I just wanted to know for the sake of being aware of how heavier the 7.62x51 gun would be, as compared to the Insas 1c.
     
  18. Kchontha

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    Insas excalibur MK1C is chambered in 5.56x45mm and its empty weight is 3.81kg while Insas mk1c chambered in 7.62x51mm and weighs 4.5kg. There will be different weight for the Excalibur if it sports barrels of different length.
     
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    EXCALIBUR RIFLE

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    EXCALIBUR MK-1

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    INSAS 1C 5.56*45

     
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  20. Vishal Chandorkar

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    Thank you so much!! Much clearer now
     

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