Indian Navy to lease second Akula class submarine - Iribis

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  1. Neil

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    India and Russia are to shortly begin negotiations on the lease of a second nuclear attack submarine for the Indian Navy. The second boat likely to be the completed might be Iribis, an Akula that was only half constructed but abandoned as a result of paucity of funds.

    The recently leased Akula class submarine - INS Chakra II, currently in service with the Navy’s eastern fleet has been on nearly non-stop patrol since its induction in April last year, and the Navy is reported to be very satisfied with its capabilities and performance.

    Tentatively christened INS Chakra III, the new submarine will be another advanced variant of the Akula class submarines that are capable of spending months under water. It is likely to be equipped with more lethal weaponry, including a vertically launched Brahmos missile system.


    The submarine is to be reconstructed around the hull of the Iribis, a Russian Akula class submarine that was never completed as funds became scarce in the late nineties. Vladimir Dorofeev, head of the Malachite Design Bureau, said that the new submarine could also benefit from the design efforts that Russia had put in its latest class of Yasen nuclear-powered attack submarines.



    Defence Blog - Satyamev Jayate: Indian Navy to lease second Akula class submarine - Iribis
     
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    Very good ideas to give some fill ups to falling submarine fleet... should have thought of it much earlier…
     
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    Nuclear submarine fleet is becoming reality..
     
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    trackwhack Tihar Jail Banned

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    No, it was wise that we played with the first one before committing to the second.
     
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    These russian submarines are well engineered and tested for years... earlier India already had a good experience with nuclear submarine from Russia... I would say India should explore possibilities to get more such attack submarines from Russia if possible...
     
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    really interesting stuff is that it might have some characteristics of yasen class....

     
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  8. Abhijeet Dey

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    Or India should build more Akula class submarines in its own shipyards in the coming future. 200 MW reactor is required.

    Propulsion of Akula class submarine (source: Wikipedia):
    1. 1 190 MW OK-650B/OK-650M pressurized water nuclear reactor
    2. 1 OK-7 steam turbine 43,000 hp (32 MW)
    3. 2 OK-2 Turbo generators producing 2,000 kW
    4. 1 seven-bladed propeller
    5. 2 OK-300 retractable electric propulsors for low-speed and quiet maneuvering at 5 knots (6 km/h)
     
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  10. Armand2REP

    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    That is all well and good, but is India allowed to use them in combat? The original agreement was for training purposes.
     
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    russia won't mind even when we use it at war.no restrictions.

    more over we have a secret agreement in between two nations ,bounded by that we have to mutually cooperate during war
     
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    Is the second leased akula class submarine named Iribis being built at Amur Shipyards?
     
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    The Russian Navy's Akula-II can be equipped with 28 nuclear-capable cruise missiles with a striking range of 3,000 km, the Indian version is reportedly expected to be armed with the 300 km range 3M-54 Klub nuclear-capable missiles. Missiles with ranges greater than 300 km cannot be exported due to arms control restrictions, since Russia is a signatory to the MTCR treaty.

    LINK:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akula_class_submarine
     
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    Brahmos has been tested in vertical launch mode, so how much more work to be done to equip this sub?

    Also, where does IN get training in nuclear propulsion?
     
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    We promise yoo it will only be used for training purposes and nothing else.

     
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    I believe that the Irbis is only partially built at the moment, construction of the hull had been stopped due to lack of funds sometime in the 90's and the money we will pay the Russians will go into completion of the sub and the fact it is only partly built wil aid in the integration with new systems like the VLS for the Brahmos, as for a timeframe i'd say a couple of years at least.

    Akula Class - Project 971

    I belive the IRBIS is the second unnamed Akula 2 hull in the FAS page

    We have had extensive training programs with the Russians in matters of nuclear propulsion starting with the first "Chakra" in the late 80's.

    India Submarine Capabilities | Articles | NTI Analysis | NTI
    There is a rumored dry land nuclear sub mock up somewhere in this great nation that is reportedly used for training, where exactly remains a state secret.;)
     
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    Iribis would be welcome addition if they can complete it and hand it over by 2017-18.
     
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    found some pics of an incomplete project 971 Akula 2 taken sometime in 2002, apparently the IRBIS
    пр.971 - AKULA | MilitaryRussia.Ru — отечественная военная техника (после 1945г.)

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    This boat looks like it needs at least a couple of years work before it can be put to sea for testing commissioning will probably only come in another 4 odd years.
     
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    of course it will take 4-5 years to get it to IN. But it would be a very potent addition.
     

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