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Tail too needs to be folder + it should have wheels instead.
Not sure if navy will induct an indian made single engine helicopter, this will be main reason given by navy to deny its induction.
Light weight category always have single Engine platform and for small HELICOPTERS don't need tail folding
 

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Light weight category always have single Engine platform and for small HELICOPTERS don't need tail folding
But i have heard a lot that Navy doesn't want to fly single engine helicopeter over sea.
also, JFYI

Navy Wanted Tails to be folded for Dhruv
Dhruv is 52ft 2in long i.e. nose to tail
and LUH is also 52ft long

So if LUH has to be used on ships and is almost same length as Dhruv, it too should have Foldable tail as navy wanted one for Dhruv.

Not 100% sure, these are the observations only.
 

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But i have heard a lot that Navy doesn't want to fly single engine helicopeter over sea.
also, JFYI

Navy Wanted Tails to be folded for Dhruv
Dhruv is 52ft 2in long i.e. nose to tail
and LUH is also 52ft long

So if LUH has to be used on ships and is almost same length as Dhruv, it too should have Foldable tail as navy wanted one for Dhruv.

Not 100% sure, these are the observations only.
Everything will be said firmly after OFFICIAL RFI's
 

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INDIAN Navy will retire it's Tupolev Tu-142M long range patrol/ASW Aircraft and will replace them with 12 Boeing P-8i's
 

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The Indian Navy's Legendary Tu-142MKE ASW aircraft to be retired on March 29th.

I Liked them, much more that P8 (I know its better)
They had a grace, feel sorry that it is end of legacy.

Hope few (only 3 left right now) can be transferred to DRDO to use them as test bed for AWAC / ASW or even engine Test Beds.
 

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I Liked them, much more that P8 (I know its better)
They had a grace, feel sorry that it is end of legacy.

Hope few (only 3 left right now) can be transferred to DRDO to use them as test bed for AWAC / ASW or even engine Test Beds.
We need a dedicated Naval Bomber which can be based out of the A&N islands to choke all the PLA Navy ships before entering the Indian Ocean incase of a war. We need to invest in a JV with Russians on a MKI version of PAK DA.
 

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We need a dedicated Naval Bomber which can be based out of the A&N islands to choke all the PLA Navy ships before entering the Indian Ocean incase of a war. We need to invest in a JV with Russians on a MKI version of PAK DA.
There is no such naval Aircraft category which is specialised for bombing..
For bombing mission, our IAF will take care of them
 

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Decision soon on 16 Sikorsky SH-70B 'Seahawk' Multi-mission Helicopters for the Indian Navy, Indian MoD tells Parliament Committee
 

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There is no such naval Aircraft category which is specialised for bombing..
For bombing mission, our IAF will take care of them
you are correct, but that Aircraft fly under C&C of IN, like Jaguar IM, these will be called as Shore based Naval Attack Aircraft.... no offense... in same way IAF also lease some aircraft to Strategic Command...
 

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you are correct, bother that Aircraft fly under C&C of IN, like Jaguar IM, these will be called as Shore based Naval Attack Aircraft.... no offense... in same way IAF also lease some aircraft to Strategic Command...
I think you didn't heard about "TROPIX" MILITARY EXERCISES.
This is an inter-service military exercise, to check the interoperability between forces.
These tactics will be used in case of War
 

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"Fly, do not be stingy, buy a painting"



Americans in the fight for the Indian order for a "twin-engine deck fighter" pay for all kinds of PR campaigns in the press, such as the MiG-29K after each landing on the aircraft carrier should be sent for repair. Aha. Not very strong, type. No, there are enough problems with "migraine" - landing on a "floating airfield" has always been extreme, and there are many subtleties there. But, but, but ... is not it better, kuma, to turn around on yourself?

Another plume of "Super Hornita" - at the international airport in Bahrain. With all the honest people: after taking off from the "Nimitz" engine refused and, you see, something else. I had to land in Bahrain. Well, how to "sit down"? I slipped through the entire strip, "successfully catapulted." Something like this. Our snide noted for a couple of days before that two-thirds of the "Hornets" are now non-flying.

Gak, hack, and the brake parachute to put all the useful ...

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Navy issues RFI for procurement of 234 helicopters
PTI | Aug 22, 2017, 09:42 PM IST


New Delhi, Aug 21 () The Indian Navy today issued global request for information (RFI) for procurement of 111 utility and 123 multi-role helicopters under the recently- launched strategic partnership model for defence procurement.

Official sources said the RFI has been issued to identify original equipment maker for both the utility helicopters as well as multi-role choppers which are being procured as part of the Navy's modernisation plan.

The procurement of both categories of choppers totalling 234 would cost the government in excess of USD 15 billion, according to experts who said that these two contracts could be one of the largest globally in recent times.

They said the defence ministry is likely to soon issue RFI to select the Indian defence manufacturer which will join hands with the foreign entity or entities (OEMs) for production of the choppers as mandated under the strategic partnership (SP) model.

The last date to respond to the RFI issued today by the Navy is October 6.

The Naval Multi Role Helicopters (NMRH) are being procured particularly to enhance the Navy's anti-submarine and anti-surface warfare capabilities.

The Navy has been pressing the government to procure new utility and multi-role helicopters to add teeth to its existing capability and replace its ageing fleet of choppers but the procurement process has seen years of delays.

The government had issued RFI for it in 2011 as well as in 2013.

In May, the defence ministry had finalised the SP model under which select private firms will be roped in to build military platforms like submarines, fighter jets and choppers in India in partnership with foreign entities.

The policy envisages establishment of long-term strategic partnerships with Indian defence majors through a transparent and competitive process wherein they would tie up with global OEMs to seek technology transfers to set up domestic manufacturing infrastructure and supply chains.

Initially, the strategic partners will be selected in four segments - fighter aircraft, helicopters, submarines and armoured fighting vehicles/main battle tanks. It is expected to be expanded to other segments at a later stage.
 

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Indian Navy Carrier Jet War Hots Up, Boeing Focuses Fire
Shiv AroorAug 28 2017 6 57 pm



The Indian Navy’s multirole carrier borne fighter (MRCBF) contest just got a little hotter with Boeing today making it a point to amplify and detail the F/A-18E/F Block III Super Hornet’s ‘full compatibility’ with India’s current and future aircraft carriers. The company asserted today that the aircraft requires ‘no modifications’ to operate ‘with meaningful weapons loadouts’ from the ski-jump of the INS Vikramaditya, Vikrant-class and follow on aircraft carriers, adding a dimension of intrigue and intensity to a contest that is widely being seen as a direct dogfight with the Dassault Rafale. We’ll go into the significance of today’s comments in a moment, but first, here’s a quick video where we catch up with Boeing’s Vice President on the Super Hornet programme, Dan Gillian.




Now, here’s how the state of play adds up as Livefist sees it:

  • Boeing has dismissed reports that the F/A-18 is too big for the hangar elevators on the INS Vikramaditya and the under-construction Vikrant class aircraft carrier. The company confirmed today that the Block III Super Hornet requires no modifications for full operations on either of these carriers. Discussions are currently ongoing with the Indian Navy. What appears unclear is if the dimensional clearances in the elevators are too small for comfortable deck handling. If no modifications are imposed on both the aircraft and the shaft systems of the carrier elevators, how much of a trade off would it be for other parameters, including turnaround and sortie generation? A bit of a grey call right now.
  • The emphasis on ski-jump operations compatibility — a capability that Boeing’s rival Dassault also claims on the Rafale — only amplifies the distance from an Indian Navy decision on whether its new class of aircraft carrier (IAC-2) will employ CATOBAR (steam or electro-magnetic) or a ski jump like the Vikramaditya and Vikrant.
  • If both the Super Hornet and Rafale both claim full operations capability from a ski-jump carrier, any technical toss-up would have to be between on weapons payload, cost per flight hour and range. Data on payload and range capabilities of either aircraft in ski jump operations remains unavailable (or unreleased). Boeing claims, however, that it has the lowest cost per flight hour of ‘any frontline fighter’.
  • Does the emphasis on ski-jump compatibility indicate a recognition that the Indian Navy could potentially simply exercise the option to purchase more MiG-29K fighters going forward? That doesn’t seem likely, given (a) the MRCBF contest is specifically borne from the Indian Navy’s need for a higher performance fighter, and (b) the Indian Navy contest will necessarily have synergies with the Indian Air Force’s future requirements.
  • Boeing says it is looking forward to putting into action what it has done in detailedsimulations since at least 2008. The last time anything close to this capability happened was when a legacy F-18 Hornet took off from a ski-jump in the eighties.
  • Boeing sees recent reports of the IAF’s interest in doubling its order for Rafales to 72 aircraft as ‘positive’. Why? That’s answered in the video below with Boeing India chief Pratyush Kumar, the man driving the company’s continued performance in the Indian market, the latest win being the Indian Army’s imminent contract for six AH-64E Apache helicopters as part of options on the original IAF deal for 22.
 

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The RFI for the procurement of 111 naval multi-utility helicopters (NMUH) and 123 naval multi-role helicopters (NMRH) details that the Transfer of Technology should be comprehensive, so that the Indian production agency can manufacture, assemble, test, commission, repair and maintain the helicopters. Also, the transferred capabilities should be capable of being used in ongoing and future indigenous programmes.
 

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