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Hiranyaksha

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:lol: again


Will, would, could, should, has to, enough is enough ..............
Lol , it is not R&D we should focus on right now. Balance is required. Which is why foreign partners must be allowed to setup their manufacturing bases with Indian partners , which is what Strategic Partnership Policy is doing. But still government is allowing very few Indian companies to collaborate with foreign partners that too with selective few technologies . And after that required throughout for any production plant is not present. So situation is bleak.
 

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The answer to question lies in the first three lines of the paragraph only ..It was liberalised two years ago and what are the deals signed with Foreign weapons manufacturers Rafale is the big one and i think may be Barak with israel..As rafale is direct import in fly away condition the offset clause of investing few amount of the deal back in india will take place may be by 2019 hopefully ..FDI is someone investing in the country expecting better returns so unless we don t award any deals they are not going to send a penny as FDI ...The problem i see is in our decision making taking ages to close a deal with extensive and exhausting trails and changes in specifications without a clear cut goal is delaying each and every defence project ....

Zero FDI in Defense this year 2017 so far

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@Kunal Biswas Bro Why do soldiers do jogging sort of running with hands near chest in artillery.
And i have seen recently in the motorized infantry soldiers comes out of the ICV and do that jumping sort of thing?
 

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OK so the 2017 Tank Biathlon results are out on the event's website

What do you guys think ??
IMO can be better.

EDIT: Apparently each country only took part in the races where its name is displayed not in all the races. So India got 2nd in one race and last (4th) in the other.











 
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LOL, BR "experts" think they know it all, please ask them to provide evidence of a MAN 12x12 vehicle even existing!
They know shit!!
And those who know they don't talk much.

I was there , got banned for one week by one of the mods, why? Because I questioned how come 3-4 terrorists could enter Pathan kot air base and while counter op how come the elite force personal becomes their target. There must be some SOP which needs to be changed or they didn't follow SOP.
And the ban was immediate,

after 4 days Parrikar made the same statement ' that elite forces have to be near to invincible , if not then they are not elite there must be relook into it' LOL

After that I left that stupid forum.
 

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BRF experts are no less than any on these fora. So lay of the condescension will you?
 

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So looks like its not just the small calibre guns OFB is failing at. :crying:
@Kunal Biswas @Bornubus @abingdonboy how authentic is the news and how long do you guys think this will push back the FOC?

India’s New Homegrown Artillery Gun System Fails in Test
Recent test setbacks will likely delay the induction of the new 155 millimeter/45-caliber gun.


By Franz-Stefan Gady
August 14, 2017


India’s new indigenously designed Dhanush towed artillery gun has repeatedly failed in user trials over the past three months which will likely push back the induction date of the new weapon system, a top source within the Indian Army revealed to Defense News this month.

“The Dhanush 155mm/45-caliber artillery gun has failed on three occasions in a row in the last three months when the shell of the gun hit the muzzle brake in one of the six prototype guns currently undergoing user trials,” the source told Defense News.

The Times of India reported about the trial failures already in July. “In May when six guns were being fired at one go, a shell hit the muzzle brake in one of the pieces,” The Times reported. “ Last week when the test fires were being undertaken, again a shell hit the muzzle brake, bringing the whole process back to square one.”

The consecutive test failures are not a major setback but nevertheless will likely delay induction of the new artillery guns into the Indian Army. The 155 millimeter/45 caliber artillery gun, Dhanush, isan improved version of the FH-77B 155 mm/39 caliber towed howitzer manufactured by the Swedish defense contractor Bofors (now BAE Systems) of which India acquired 414 between 1987 and 1991.

As I reported elsewhere, “the initial procurement of the Bofors howitzers in the 1980s was steeped in controversy and led to India’s most infamous arms purchase scandal in recent history, which torpedoed all artillery modernization plans.” Bofors, the howitzer’s designer and manufacturer, was found to have paid illegal kickbacks in exchange for the contract. The company was subsequently blacklisted by the Indian government.

As I explained previously, the major upgrade in comparison to the Bofors is the larger caliber. Furthermore, the Dhanush reportedly has a new maximum effective range of 38 kilometer in salvo mode compared to the 39-calibre, 27-km range of the original guns. The Dhanush howitzer is capable of firing eight rounds per minutes and needs a crew of six to eight artillerymen.

The indigenous upgrade of the Dhanush artillery gun is based schematics supplied by Bofors/BAE Systems under a technology transfer agreement in the 1980s. According to Indian media reports, 80 percent of the guns components are made in India. Last month, it was revealed that the howitzer guns contains fake Chinese parts (wire race rollers) that were labelled to come from a German company and had ‘Made in Germany’ embossed in them.

The Indian Army has already ordered 114 Dhanush howitzers, which, given the successful trials, should enter mass production momentarily at the Gun Carriage Factory in Jabalpur district of Madhya Pradesh in central India. The first 18 Dhanush howitzers are expected to be inducted into the Indian Army by the end of 2017. Another 36 guns are slated for induction in 2018 with an additional 60 guns in 2019.

http://thediplomat.com/2017/08/indias-new-homegrown-artillery-gun-system-fails-in-test/


 

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So looks like its not just the small calibre guns OFB is failing at. :crying:
@Kunal Biswas @Bornubus @abingdonboy how authentic is the news and how long do you guys think this will push back the FOC?

India’s New Homegrown Artillery Gun System Fails in Test
Recent test setbacks will likely delay the induction of the new 155 millimeter/45-caliber gun.


By Franz-Stefan Gady
August 14, 2017


India’s new indigenously designed Dhanush towed artillery gun has repeatedly failed in user trials over the past three months which will likely push back the induction date of the new weapon system, a top source within the Indian Army revealed to Defense News this month.

“The Dhanush 155mm/45-caliber artillery gun has failed on three occasions in a row in the last three months when the shell of the gun hit the muzzle brake in one of the six prototype guns currently undergoing user trials,” the source told Defense News.

The Times of India reported about the trial failures already in July. “In May when six guns were being fired at one go, a shell hit the muzzle brake in one of the pieces,” The Times reported. “ Last week when the test fires were being undertaken, again a shell hit the muzzle brake, bringing the whole process back to square one.”

The consecutive test failures are not a major setback but nevertheless will likely delay induction of the new artillery guns into the Indian Army. The 155 millimeter/45 caliber artillery gun, Dhanush, isan improved version of the FH-77B 155 mm/39 caliber towed howitzer manufactured by the Swedish defense contractor Bofors (now BAE Systems) of which India acquired 414 between 1987 and 1991.

As I reported elsewhere, “the initial procurement of the Bofors howitzers in the 1980s was steeped in controversy and led to India’s most infamous arms purchase scandal in recent history, which torpedoed all artillery modernization plans.” Bofors, the howitzer’s designer and manufacturer, was found to have paid illegal kickbacks in exchange for the contract. The company was subsequently blacklisted by the Indian government.

As I explained previously, the major upgrade in comparison to the Bofors is the larger caliber. Furthermore, the Dhanush reportedly has a new maximum effective range of 38 kilometer in salvo mode compared to the 39-calibre, 27-km range of the original guns. The Dhanush howitzer is capable of firing eight rounds per minutes and needs a crew of six to eight artillerymen.

The indigenous upgrade of the Dhanush artillery gun is based schematics supplied by Bofors/BAE Systems under a technology transfer agreement in the 1980s. According to Indian media reports, 80 percent of the guns components are made in India. Last month, it was revealed that the howitzer guns contains fake Chinese parts (wire race rollers) that were labelled to come from a German company and had ‘Made in Germany’ embossed in them.

The Indian Army has already ordered 114 Dhanush howitzers, which, given the successful trials, should enter mass production momentarily at the Gun Carriage Factory in Jabalpur district of Madhya Pradesh in central India. The first 18 Dhanush howitzers are expected to be inducted into the Indian Army by the end of 2017. Another 36 guns are slated for induction in 2018 with an additional 60 guns in 2019.

http://thediplomat.com/2017/08/indias-new-homegrown-artillery-gun-system-fails-in-test/

Not a big deal, induction will happen in the next 7-8 months as planned.
 

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That comes to Rs. 694 crore a piece including ammunition, spares and training.

Any idea on what is the cost without these?


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