Indian Army: News and Discussion

[Imaxxx]

pakis 261 transport aircraft?? Can't be. Wiki lists 27. Even if 75 rotary wing MI17 are counted, not really transport "aircraft", still together it adds up to 102. Missing something?

 

[cobra commando]

Once again, Army starts global hunt for a new- generation assault rifle

 

[ezsasa]

Chalo good, the RFI have started coming in again after a gap of almost 4-5 months...
latest one today is RFI for Mobile Decontamination System...

 

[Shashwat]

192 Boats with 0 Ac, Corvettes and Destroyer. Fishing boats also counted?

 

[republic_roi97]

192 Boats with 0 Ac, Corvettes and Destroyer. Fishing boats also counted?

That is what I was thinking too.

 

[Sachin Bajaj]

We people of India is really grateful to the Indian army, for them we live in peace, happy and secure.

 

[WolfPack86]

In Fact: Why A Special Relation Ship With Russia Matters
After India’s surgical strikes along the LoC, Moscow expressed concern “with the aggravation of situation along the line of control” and called on “parties not to allow any escalation of tension”. This stood in sharp contrast to Russia’s reaction to the 2008 terror strikes, where it supported “resolute actions of the Indian government to cut short terrorist actions”. The statements capture the changing nature of India-Russia ties, also reflected in Moscow’s military relationship with Pakistan.
Back in 1967, following the Tashkent Agreement, Moscow had decided to sell military armaments to Pakistan. But Indira Gandhi objected, and the USSR, considering its special relationship with India, withdrew the proposal. The understanding continued into the 21st century — President Vladimir Putin said in Delhi in March 2010 that “unlike many other countries, Russia does not have any military cooperation with Pakistan because we bear in mind the concerns of our Indian friends”.
But by August 2015, the situation had changed, with Pakistan signing a deal with Russia for four Mi-35M attack helicopters. The Pakistani army, navy, and air force chiefs have all visited Russia in the past 15 months. The countries are conducting a 2-week-long military exercise in Pakistan, the first in their history. Reports that Moscow had decided to cancel the exercises following the Uri terror turned out to be incorrect. News about the ongoing exercise has been scarce, with no mention of the location of the joint military drill.
New Delhi believes that Russia’s relationship with Pakistan would not come at the cost of Moscow’s dealings with India. But what complicates matters is the excessive Indian dependence on Moscow for the upkeep of military hardware and transfer of high-end military technologies. Experts estimate that nearly 65% of the current inventory in the three Services is of Soviet or Russian origin. The serviceability state of some of these platforms has been abysmally low because of the poor availability of spares from Russia.
Take the case of the Sukhoi Su-30 MKIs, the mainstay of the IAF, which will have 272 Russian fighters in service by the turn of the decade. The serviceability of Sukhoi aircraft was around 46% 2 years ago and has crossed 50% this year with great difficulty. This means that half the IAF’s Sukhoi fleet is grounded at any given time. Despite intervention at high levels, South Block has not been able to find a way to secure a regular supply of spares in India. Attempts to encourage Indian companies to manufacture spares have failed because of strict Russian conditions.
The situation with the MiG-29K naval fighters is no different. In July, the CAG pointed out that the serviceability of the Navy’s warplanes ranged from 21.30% to 47.14% — not even half the fighters were fit to fly. These 2 MiG-29K squadrons were part of Moscow’s package to transfer the aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov, now INS Vikramaditya, India’s sole aircraft carrier.
India’s only nuclear submarine, INS Chakra, is leased from Russia, while negotiations for leasing another Akula class nuclear submarine are in the final stages. No country other than Russia would have provided India with such critical technology.
India is now in the process of building its own nuclear submarines, and reports suggest a reasonable degree of Russian cooperation on the project. Informed sources, however, say the second and third n-submarines are 70% and nearly 90% indigenous respectively. But even as India increases its indigenous defense production capacity and diversifies its procurement sources, the military’s dependence on Russia for some critical technologies still remains.
Many government officials assert that the geostrategic moves by Moscow — whether of joint drills with Pakistan or naval exercises with China in the South China Sea — will not alter the transactional nature of its defense relationship with New Delhi. Pakistan will never be able to match India’s deep pockets to buy Russian defense equipment, and for that reason alone, a cash-strapped Moscow will continue to court India.
Meanwhile, besides buying military equipment from Washington, India has also entered into defence technology cooperation agreements with the US. Even then, the high bar for defence technology transfers means India will not get the cutting edge defence technology from Washington as it did from Moscow. Even in the best case scenario, it can be said that the “special” component of the India-Russia defence partnership is past its halcyon days.
http://www.indiandefensenews.in/2016/10/in-fact-why-special-relationship-with.html

 

[Superdefender]

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[Sachin Bajaj]

We people of India is really grateful to the Indian army, for them we live in peace, happy and secure.

Trekking with Indian Army can be an interesting event for anyone. The Better India provides you a real-time information over it.Explore yourself.

 

[WolfPack86]

Indian Army asked for wish-list; troops demand rifles, ammunition and bulletproof jackets
From rifles, ammunition, bulletproof jackets, hand-held thermal imagers, night vision devices, sandbags to fresh communication lines, the troops on the ground have responded with their demands.
by Jugal R Purohit
Army clears the procurement of about 250 Mine Proof Vehicles.
Army requires over 3.5 lakh bulletproof vests, order for 50,000 issued earlier this year.
Rifles, ammunition, bulletproof jackets, hand-held thermal imagers among demands.
At a time when the armed forces along the borders and those tasked with internal security are at a high level of alert against terrorist strikes, a long-pending move is taking shape. Formations on the ground, long-used to 'making-do' with what was available on the ground are in the reckoning.
It was confirmed that most ground formations had received notifications, primarily from the Army and BSF. They were asked to list out their requirements at the earliest. In a move made before the surgical strike, the Army also cleared the procurement of about 250 Mine Proof Vehicles (MPVs) which are useful when tackling terrorists as they secure the troops and allow them mobility across all types of terrain.
WHAT INDIAN ARMY WANTS
From rifles, ammunition, bulletproof jackets, hand-held thermal imagers, night vision devices, sandbags to fresh communication lines, the troops on the ground have responded with their demands. It remains to be seen how soon and how much materialises. "This happens every time things tense up. While a few things will be made available, most will not. Invariably, matters fall back to the same old pace. We hope things are different this time," said an officer who was commanding a battalion posted on the LoC.
While the Army requires over 3.5 lakh bulletproof vests and an order for 50,000 has been issued earlier this year, the BSF is in no better position by itself. The BSF spokesperson refused to provide details but sources pointed to massive gaps in quality and quantity.
ARMY'S BIGGEST ORDER EVER
Meanwhile, the Army has, in one of the biggest ever orders placed, asked for about 250 Mine Protected Vehicles (MPVs). These vehicles, routinely spotted on the streets and highways of Jammu and Kashmir and Northeastern states, secure troops from Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs) explosions and gunfire.
These MPVs, which can carry up to a dozen fully armed personnel, also have a provision for gun sights in bullet proof glass from where troops can take on targets outside. There is also a provision to install a rotating, heavier gun on top of the vehicle. Those operating MPVs say it helps them move cross-country across most terrain even while taking fire and hitting back at terrorists. A Bullet Proof (BP) bunker or BP vehicle has limits on mobility and the security it can offer, when considered against an MPV.
WHEN WILL THE ARMY GET WHAT IT WANTS
From information obtained by speaking to sources in the Army and the Ministry of Defence (MoD), it was learnt that 'indent' or an order for acquisition had recently been placed with the Vehicle Factory Jabalpur (VFJ), which comes under the Ordnance Factory Board of the MoD. The delivery of these MPVs will begin by 2018. The Amy will use these vehicles in Northeastern states apart from Jammu and Kashmir.
In J&K, which is witnessing an escalation of sorts, intelligence inputs indicate a presence of 409 terrorists of which 315 are operating in the Kashmir region and the rest in Jammu. Instances of mine/IED blasts in Jammu and Kashmir have significantly reduced on account of better roads and detection by the security agencies. However, terrorist strikes have forced the hand of not just the Army but also the Central Armed Police Forces (CAPFs) deployed there and they are responding with MPVs. The Army and CAPFs have been using 'Casspir' MPV manufactured by the VFJ. The Army, which was the first to use MPVs, began doing so since the early 1990s when it was tasked with tackling the first bout of insurgency in the Kashmir Valley.
A senior officer aware of the case said: "While we are looking at replacing our existing fleet which is ageing, there will also be an enhancement of numbers. We have found these MPVs to be extremely useful. The ones we will now procure are the upgraded ones and have been finalised after several rounds of testing." For security reasons, the specifications pertaining to these MPVs were not shared.
http://www.indiandefensenews.in/2016/10/indian-army-asked-for-wish-list-demand.html

 

[Rushil51]

Take a look at @NorthernComd_IA's Tweet:

 

[Rushil51]

Take a look at @ANI_news's Tweet:

 

[Raj Malhotra]

Indian Army asked for wish-list; troops demand rifles, ammunition and bulletproof jackets
From rifles, ammunition, bulletproof jackets, hand-held thermal imagers, night vision devices, sandbags to fresh communication lines, the troops on the ground have responded with their demands.
by Jugal R Purohit
Army clears the procurement of about 250 Mine Proof Vehicles.
Army requires over 3.5 lakh bulletproof vests, order for 50,000 issued earlier this year.
Rifles, ammunition, bulletproof jackets, hand-held thermal imagers among demands.
At a time when the armed forces along the borders and those tasked with internal security are at a high level of alert against terrorist strikes, a long-pending move is taking shape. Formations on the ground, long-used to 'making-do' with what was available on the ground are in the reckoning.
It was confirmed that most ground formations had received notifications, primarily from the Army and BSF. They were asked to list out their requirements at the earliest. In a move made before the surgical strike, the Army also cleared the procurement of about 250 Mine Proof Vehicles (MPVs) which are useful when tackling terrorists as they secure the troops and allow them mobility across all types of terrain.
WHAT INDIAN ARMY WANTS
From rifles, ammunition, bulletproof jackets, hand-held thermal imagers, night vision devices, sandbags to fresh communication lines, the troops on the ground have responded with their demands. It remains to be seen how soon and how much materialises. "This happens every time things tense up. While a few things will be made available, most will not. Invariably, matters fall back to the same old pace. We hope things are different this time," said an officer who was commanding a battalion posted on the LoC.
While the Army requires over 3.5 lakh bulletproof vests and an order for 50,000 has been issued earlier this year, the BSF is in no better position by itself. The BSF spokesperson refused to provide details but sources pointed to massive gaps in quality and quantity.
ARMY'S BIGGEST ORDER EVER
Meanwhile, the Army has, in one of the biggest ever orders placed, asked for about 250 Mine Protected Vehicles (MPVs). These vehicles, routinely spotted on the streets and highways of Jammu and Kashmir and Northeastern states, secure troops from Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs) explosions and gunfire.
These MPVs, which can carry up to a dozen fully armed personnel, also have a provision for gun sights in bullet proof glass from where troops can take on targets outside. There is also a provision to install a rotating, heavier gun on top of the vehicle. Those operating MPVs say it helps them move cross-country across most terrain even while taking fire and hitting back at terrorists. A Bullet Proof (BP) bunker or BP vehicle has limits on mobility and the security it can offer, when considered against an MPV.
WHEN WILL THE ARMY GET WHAT IT WANTS
From information obtained by speaking to sources in the Army and the Ministry of Defence (MoD), it was learnt that 'indent' or an order for acquisition had recently been placed with the Vehicle Factory Jabalpur (VFJ), which comes under the Ordnance Factory Board of the MoD. The delivery of these MPVs will begin by 2018. The Amy will use these vehicles in Northeastern states apart from Jammu and Kashmir.
In J&K, which is witnessing an escalation of sorts, intelligence inputs indicate a presence of 409 terrorists of which 315 are operating in the Kashmir region and the rest in Jammu. Instances of mine/IED blasts in Jammu and Kashmir have significantly reduced on account of better roads and detection by the security agencies. However, terrorist strikes have forced the hand of not just the Army but also the Central Armed Police Forces (CAPFs) deployed there and they are responding with MPVs. The Army and CAPFs have been using 'Casspir' MPV manufactured by the VFJ. The Army, which was the first to use MPVs, began doing so since the early 1990s when it was tasked with tackling the first bout of insurgency in the Kashmir Valley.
A senior officer aware of the case said: "While we are looking at replacing our existing fleet which is ageing, there will also be an enhancement of numbers. We have found these MPVs to be extremely useful. The ones we will now procure are the upgraded ones and have been finalised after several rounds of testing." For security reasons, the specifications pertaining to these MPVs were not shared.
http://www.indiandefensenews.in/2016/10/indian-army-asked-for-wish-list-demand.html

What troops demanded and what they got? Rafale!

 

[ezsasa]

Maybe that's because the outline for its production has already been made and as far as news goes, prototype is already out (!).

Wrong post...
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[ezsasa]

What troops demanded and what they got? Rafale!

Kuch Bhi, you are comparing rafale which has been in a pipeline for Almost a decade and something which got initiated in last two years.

Finding faults is not a bad thing, but atleast make a logical argument.

More over budgets of IA and IAF are separate, letting you know just in case

 

[Prashant12]

Saab Carl-Gustaf legacy will boom again in India

Swedish defence major Saab is planning to carry forward the 40-year-old legacy of its multipurpose weapon system Carl-Gustaf in India, as it prepares to co-produce its next-generation Carl-Gustaf M4 under the ‘Make in India’ programme for the Army.

The 84 mm Carl-Gustaf M4 was first showcased in India at the Aero Show last year and subsequently also exhibited at this year’s Defence Expo in Goa.

“We had very good and positive feedback from the Indian Army because of reduction in weight and the ammunition loaded. We tried to generate interest for the weapon. They are producing the old ones and they need to update the old ones,” Christer Gordon, Vice-President, FFV Ordnance AB, Saab, told BusinessLine.

India had signed the first contract with Saab for Carl-Gustaf M2 weapons system in 1976, including technology transfer of Carl-Gustaf weapon and ammunition to Ordnance Factory Board (OFB). In 2005, Saab had inked another licensing contract for M3 with India.

“Since 1976, we have supported OFB to indigenise the product. We are now planning to follow the same route for Carl-Gustaf M4, which was launched in the market in late 2014. ‘Make in India’ is very important for us. India is already producing the M2s, M3s so you can produce the MP-4s also. The Army has given a positive feedback about it,” Gordon said.

Interestingly, during the recent surgical strikes on terror launch pads across the LoC against Pakistan, the Army had used shoulder-fired Carl-Gustaf rifles. According to Gordon, the latest M4 model has improved ergonomics and is much lighter compared with M2 and M3. It is made of titanium instead of steel, which obviously makes the product costlier.

Ballistic calculation
Also, the new variant can communicate with ammunition, and the ammunition can be programmed from an advanced site. This enables it to give feedback to the site. It is also capable of ballistic calculation. Gordon said the company is hopeful of the Defence Ministry placing orders soon for the product, which can be used under all weather conditions and in any terrain.

The company is presently scouting for partners in India to co-develop and co-produce the M4 here.

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com...y-will-boom-again-in-india/article9204440.ece

 

[ezsasa]

Indian Army asked for wish-list; troops demand rifles, ammunition and bulletproof jackets
From rifles, ammunition, bulletproof jackets, hand-held thermal imagers, night vision devices, sandbags to fresh communication lines, the troops on the ground have responded with their demands.
by Jugal R Purohit
Army clears the procurement of about 250 Mine Proof Vehicles.
Army requires over 3.5 lakh bulletproof vests, order for 50,000 issued earlier this year.
Rifles, ammunition, bulletproof jackets, hand-held thermal imagers among demands.
At a time when the armed forces along the borders and those tasked with internal security are at a high level of alert against terrorist strikes, a long-pending move is taking shape. Formations on the ground, long-used to 'making-do' with what was available on the ground are in the reckoning.
It was confirmed that most ground formations had received notifications, primarily from the Army and BSF. They were asked to list out their requirements at the earliest. In a move made before the surgical strike, the Army also cleared the procurement of about 250 Mine Proof Vehicles (MPVs) which are useful when tackling terrorists as they secure the troops and allow them mobility across all types of terrain.
WHAT INDIAN ARMY WANTS
From rifles, ammunition, bulletproof jackets, hand-held thermal imagers, night vision devices, sandbags to fresh communication lines, the troops on the ground have responded with their demands. It remains to be seen how soon and how much materialises. "This happens every time things tense up. While a few things will be made available, most will not. Invariably, matters fall back to the same old pace. We hope things are different this time," said an officer who was commanding a battalion posted on the LoC.
While the Army requires over 3.5 lakh bulletproof vests and an order for 50,000 has been issued earlier this year, the BSF is in no better position by itself. The BSF spokesperson refused to provide details but sources pointed to massive gaps in quality and quantity.
ARMY'S BIGGEST ORDER EVER
Meanwhile, the Army has, in one of the biggest ever orders placed, asked for about 250 Mine Protected Vehicles (MPVs). These vehicles, routinely spotted on the streets and highways of Jammu and Kashmir and Northeastern states, secure troops from Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs) explosions and gunfire.
These MPVs, which can carry up to a dozen fully armed personnel, also have a provision for gun sights in bullet proof glass from where troops can take on targets outside. There is also a provision to install a rotating, heavier gun on top of the vehicle. Those operating MPVs say it helps them move cross-country across most terrain even while taking fire and hitting back at terrorists. A Bullet Proof (BP) bunker or BP vehicle has limits on mobility and the security it can offer, when considered against an MPV.
WHEN WILL THE ARMY GET WHAT IT WANTS
From information obtained by speaking to sources in the Army and the Ministry of Defence (MoD), it was learnt that 'indent' or an order for acquisition had recently been placed with the Vehicle Factory Jabalpur (VFJ), which comes under the Ordnance Factory Board of the MoD. The delivery of these MPVs will begin by 2018. The Amy will use these vehicles in Northeastern states apart from Jammu and Kashmir.
In J&K, which is witnessing an escalation of sorts, intelligence inputs indicate a presence of 409 terrorists of which 315 are operating in the Kashmir region and the rest in Jammu. Instances of mine/IED blasts in Jammu and Kashmir have significantly reduced on account of better roads and detection by the security agencies. However, terrorist strikes have forced the hand of not just the Army but also the Central Armed Police Forces (CAPFs) deployed there and they are responding with MPVs. The Army and CAPFs have been using 'Casspir' MPV manufactured by the VFJ. The Army, which was the first to use MPVs, began doing so since the early 1990s when it was tasked with tackling the first bout of insurgency in the Kashmir Valley.
A senior officer aware of the case said: "While we are looking at replacing our existing fleet which is ageing, there will also be an enhancement of numbers. We have found these MPVs to be extremely useful. The ones we will now procure are the upgraded ones and have been finalised after several rounds of testing." For security reasons, the specifications pertaining to these MPVs were not shared.
http://www.indiandefensenews.in/2016/10/indian-army-asked-for-wish-list-demand.html

Not sure whether it is related to this article, but tenders have started to come in for Training ammo&Gear for Tavor&AKs and Night Vision Devices for INSAS and AKs.

 

[rishivashista13]

Operation Ginger

An Untold operation of Indian army and special forces .............

Must read

http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/index.php?posts/1215814

 

[ezsasa]

India to fast-track long-delayed carbine procurement

After recently cancelling the December 2010 tender for 44,618 5.56 mm close quarter battle (CQB) carbines and 33.6 million rounds of ammunition, India's Ministry of Defence (MoD) now aims to 'fast-track' the long-delayed carbine procurement via an 'empowered committee' within the next 12-14 months, official sources have told IHS Jane's.

However, the request for proposals (RfP) for the same quantity of CBQ carbines and ammunition for the Indian Army (IA), which is likely to be dispatched by early 2017, will not include reflex or passive night sights, nor visible or invisible laser spot designators, all of which will be acquired separately.

http://www.janes.com/article/64529/india-to-fast-track-long-delayed-carbine-procurement

 

[ezsasa]

New doctrine coined by the media after pampore- "Doctrine of minimal cost"..