Indian Air Force: News & Discussions

[Cutting Edge 2]

India Interested in Unique Russian SOKOL Airbase Security System

19:26 19.07.2017(updated 19:28 19.07.2017)

India is interested in buying Russian SOKOL military airfield protection systems at the ongoing MAKS-2017 International Aviation and Space Salon, Rosoboronexport state arms exporter's Deputy Director General Sergey Goreslavsky said Wednesday.

ZHUKOVSKIY (Sputnik) – SOKOL uses cameras and heat detectors to pinpoint security breaches before sending data to security personnel. Detectors can be concealed underground and provide the guarded area with a multi-layer protection system. Indian clients already had an interest in the system at February's Aero India 2017. The system drew Indian interest due to the country's terrorist concerns and Rosoboronexport said it was ready to tailor SOKOL to Indian needs.

"The unique system already caught attention of our partners from India and we count on it to pique interest on the part of customers from other countries in view of the growing terrorist threat. Promotion of such products paves the way for us to the market of hi-tech special-purpose equipment," Goreslavsky said, as quoted in a statement.

According to the statement, a person detected violating the boundaries of a protected site leads the system to adjust cameras automatically and inform the officers on duty about the intrusion.

"The trespasser may even not know that he has been detected, for the elements of the system can be buried into the ground forming up warning lines. Meanwhile, it has no impact whatsoever on the detection accuracy, which is within 5m, while the protected boundary can be as long as 100km," the press service noted.

The SOKOL system is currently being presented at the International Aviation and Space Salon MAKS-2017, which is held from July 18-23 in the town of Zhukovskiy, in the greater Moscow Region.

https://sputniknews.com/military/201707191055694602-india-russia-sokol-military-airfield-security/

 

[Cutting Edge 2]

Indian Air Force Revives Electronic Snooper Jet Requirement

BTW that jet could be used by Indian intelligence agencies.

Spoiler

RAW

 

[Kshatriya87]

Russia keen to sell new fighter jet MiG-35 to IAF: Official

HIGHLIGHTS

• The MiG-35 is Russia's most advanced 4++ generation multipurpose fighter jet
• An official claimed that the MiG-35 would beat the American jet in air to air combat.
• MiG aircraft have been used by India for almost 50 years

ZHUKOVSKY (Russia): Russia is keen on selling its new fighter jet MiG-35 to India with the MiG corporation's chief saying the country has evinced interest in the aircraft and talks were on to understand its requirements.

Director General of Russian Aircraft Corporation MiG Ilya Tarasenko said the MiG-35 was "the best"+ and definitely better than Lockheed Martin's fifth-generation combat aircraft F-35. He claimed that the MiG-35 would beat the American jet in air to air combat.

Tarasenko, while talking to reporters on the sidelines of the MAKS 2017 air showhere, said after having presented MiG- 35 in January, the MiG corporation began to actively promote the aircraft in India and in other parts of the world.

"We are proposing supply of the aircraft for tenders in India and we actively work with its Air Force in order to win the tender," he said.

The MiG-35 is Russia's most advanced 4++ generation multipurpose fighter jet developed on the basis of the serial-produced MiG-29K/KUB and MiG-29M/M2 combat aircraft.

Asked if India has expressed any interest in the MiG-35, Tarasenko said, "Of course they have."

MiG aircraft have been used by India for almost 50 years and MiG corporation proposes its new products to India among the first countries and intends to continue supplying India with its most modern aircraft, the MiG chief said.

Asked about the current status of the proposal of the aircraft to India, he said, "We are in the negotiation stage where talks on technical and technological specifications that MiG can present to India and the requirements that India has for this aircraft were taking place."

"Since this is a very new plane, it will still take some time to negotiate on exactly what India needs and adjust the product to it," he added.

Talking about the cost of the plane, Tarasenko said it was economical due to the after-sales services being offered along with the aircraft.

"We propose not just the aircraft, but also training for its use, as well as after-sales servicing where we take upon the responsibility to service it for 40 years," he added.

He stressed that in comparison to its competitors, the prices offered by MiG were 20-25 per cent cheaper, making it an attractive option for those who wish to purchase this aircraft.

Highlighting the main features of the MiG-35, Tarasenko said its technical specifications were close to a fifth generation aircraft, namely its flight capabilities, its new weapon range and defence systems, including stealth.

"I would like to note the demand for this aircraft for our own air force, as well as our foreign partners. The plane is light, multi-functional and has high manoeuvrability," Tarasenko said, adding that the MiG was also offering special commercial terms to its partners.

He also stressed that the plane was fully Russian-made with Rostec companies like United Engine Corporation (UEC), KRET and Technodinamika participating in the project.

At MAKS 2017, the MiG-35 grabbed all the limelight as it took to the skies and enthralled the audience with breathtaking manoeuvres like the tail slide, barrel roll and the nesterov loop.

Meanwhile, Director of Russia's Federal Service for Military and Technical Cooperation Dmitry Shugayev also said that Russia is ready to take part in India's tender for the supply of light fighter jets with its MiG-35 plane.

"Principally, Russia is ready to participate in future aviation tenders in India. However, as of now, we do not have information on the opening of a tender and, correspondingly, on the plane's technical requirements set by the Indian side," he was quoted as saying by Russia's TASS news agency.

Mikhail Belyaev, the Lead Test Pilot of MiG-35, told reporters that the main feature of this aircraft was the new on board equipment and the new quality of weapons — air-to-air, air-to-ground and air-to-sea.

"Compared with the basic version of the MiG-29, it is a new aircraft, new airframe, fly-by-wire, glass cockpit, adapted for night vision goggles...new engines, more power, more fuel, new on board equipment and new weapons," said Belyaev, who was earlier this year presented the star of the 'Hero of Russia' by President Vladimir Putin for bravery in piloting and testing of aviation equipment.

Asked if it was easier to fly MiG-35, Belyaev said new tasks were required for such an aircraft so one needs to learn these.

"On the basic level it is not that difficult to switch from MIG 29 to 35 as the plane remains the same. It is still a light simple plane. The combat tasks that can be achieved from this plane are much more serious and much more complex," he said.

"More combat tasks can be achieved from this plane than with the MiG-29. So it will take time to learn new tasks and to adapt," he added.

An overhauled MiG-35 multi-role fighter completed a successful demonstration flight at the MAKS 2017 air show, with Russian officials saying the first combat-ready plane will be delivered to the Air Force next year.

While speaking to reporters at MAKS, Tarasenko also noted that around 30 countries are using various modifications of MiG-35's predecessor, the MiG-29, and that "talks are already ongoing with potential buyers."

The fighter jet features improved flight and technical characteristics, the most advanced on board radio-electronic equipment and a wide arsenal of air-to-air and air-to-surface missiles.

The flight tests of MiG-35 fighter aircraft began on January 26 and the plane's international presentation was held in the Moscow Region on the following day.

 

[lcafanboy]

Now, IAF plans to land its cargo planes on Agra-Lucknow Expressway
Tuesday, July 25, 2017 By: HT Source Link: CLICK HERE


After two successful touchdowns by its fighter jets on expressways in Uttar Pradesh last year, the Indian Air Force (IAF) will attempt to land its transport planes on the Agra-Lucknow Expressway in October.

A state government spokesperson said the IAF was preparing to land its cargo planes on the road-runway on the expressway.

The Agra-Lucknow Expressway has India’s first road runway.


The IAF landed seven of its Sukhoi and Mirage 2000 planes on the Unnao section of the expressway in November last year. Before that, the IAF had landed its Mirage 2000s on the Yamuna Expressway near Agra and on the airstrip at Saifai village in Etawah district in May last year.

The 3.3-km stretch of the 302-km expressway can be used to land fighter jets and transport planes in emergencies when military airfields are unavailable.

Till now, IAF has not landed its planes on roads in any other state.

The Agra-Lucknow Expressway was built at a cost of Rs 13,200-crore in 22 months by the Akhilesh Yadav government. The six-lane expressway is India’s longest one and can be expanded to eight lanes.
http://www.defencenews.in/article/N...argo-planes-on-Agra-Lucknow-Expressway-263384

 

[Anikastha]

The horny ones...

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[Vinod DX9]

The Indian Air Force is planning its third road runway exercise on a stretch of Agra-Lucknow Expressway this October. Unlikely the past two exercises, this time the service will attempt to land its transport aircraft on the expressway.

Image for representation

 

[Kshatriya87]

The Indian Air Force is planning its third road runway exercise on a stretch of Agra-Lucknow Expressway this October. Unlikely the past two exercises, this time the service will attempt to land its transport aircraft on the expressway.

Image for representationView attachment 18246

No street lights on the highway?

 

[Vinod DX9]

Image for representation...the aircraft too isn't from IAF

 

[Neeraj Mathur]

Macron has offered to donate 31 Jaguars to India

French daily Le Point has confirmed that President Emmanuel Macron intends to donate 31 ex-French Air Force Jaguar fighters to India.

The information was first disclosed by Defense News and a high-ranking French military source has confirmed the story to Le Point.


http://alert5.com/2017/07/27/macron-has-offered-to-donate-31-jaguars-to-india/
http://www.lepoint.fr/monde/la-fran...9-07-2017-2144251_24.php#section-commentaires

 

[TPFscopes]

No street lights on the highway?

Runway stretches Don't have any type (specially of more height) of sign board, tress, road lamps , high masts etc. on any side of the stretch.

 

[TPFscopes]

Macron has offered to donate 31 Jaguars to India

French daily Le Point has confirmed that President Emmanuel Macron intends to donate 31 ex-French Air Force Jaguar fighters to India.

The information was first disclosed by Defense News and a high-ranking French military source has confirmed the story to Le Point.


http://alert5.com/2017/07/27/macron-has-offered-to-donate-31-jaguars-to-india/
http://www.lepoint.fr/monde/la-fran...9-07-2017-2144251_24.php#section-commentaires

That's quite nice.
So, there will be no payments for that. Is it?

Any confirmed information about Mirage 2k procurement?

 

[Kshatriya87]

Runway stretches Don't have any type (specially of more height) of sign board, tress, road lamps , high masts etc. on any side of the stretch.

Is the highway graded for that kind of tonnage and impact?

 

[Kshatriya87]

Macron has offered to donate 31 Jaguars to India

French daily Le Point has confirmed that President Emmanuel Macron intends to donate 31 ex-French Air Force Jaguar fighters to India.

The information was first disclosed by Defense News and a high-ranking French military source has confirmed the story to Le Point.


http://alert5.com/2017/07/27/macron-has-offered-to-donate-31-jaguars-to-india/
http://www.lepoint.fr/monde/la-fran...9-07-2017-2144251_24.php#section-commentaires

That makes 1.5 squadrons. This can be a very quick way to further fill up the gap of our fighter jet needs.

 

[TPFscopes]

That makes 1.5 squadrons. This can be a very quick way to further fill up the gap of our fighter jet needs.

These Airframes are not intended to be airborne. Thier spares and parts will be used to beef up maintenance store.

 

[TPFscopes]

Is the highway graded for that kind of tonnage and impact?

There are about 23 strips made within India as per IAF requirements and under the supervision of IAF personnels.

 

[Khagesh]

http://www.financialexpress.com/ind...ighter-jet-make-in-india-rafale-mmrca/780055/
Sorry, Russia. Indian Air Force is unlikely to go in for the MiG-35 fighter jet; here’s why
MiG-35 is Russia's most advanced 4++ generation fighter jet - and it wants to sell it to India!
By: Smriti Jain | Published: July 26, 2017 1:20 PM

No, feel defence and aviation experts. Air Vice Marshal (Retd) Manmohan Bahadur and a Distinguished Fellow, CAPS is of the view that India has already made its choice clear by deciding on the Rafale. “The Indian Air Force has made its choice of a twin engine fighter aircraft – the Rafale. Whenever we add more fighter jets, they should be Rafales, not the MiG-35s,” Manmohan Bahadur tells FE Online. “When the MMRCA deal for IAF was in process, the MiG-35 did not make the final cut,” he says. “Also, getting a completely new aircraft would involve an entirely new set of maintenance and logistics support. There is no point investing in that,” he adds.

Agrees Colonel (Retd) KV Kuber, Independent Consultant Defence and Aerospace, who believes that as far as fighter jets are concerned, India should look at the upgrade package for the Sukhoi-30 MKI fleet rather than go for a new warplane altogether. “There is no point introducing a new platform for the IAF. For twin-engine fighter aircraft, we are already getting the Rafales. We already have the bouquet of fighter aircraft, we have the Jaguars, Mirage 2000s, Sukhoi 30 MKIs. MiG-35 had been part of the MMRCA bid, but did not qualify. Russia may indeed have improved upon it, but the fact is that India doesn’t need a new type of aircraft to understand and absorb into its defence ecosystem,” Kuber tells FE Online. “Going ahead we should either acquire more Rafales or definitely go in for the upgrade package of Sukhoi 30-MKIs,” he says. Kuber is also of the view that MiG-35 is still an evolving platform and the Russian Air Force is also yet to get it.




WTH

Arre !!! how can Su-30MKI upgrade be the replacement for the MMRCA requirements of IAF. Medium is medium, Heavy cannot replace medium bhai.

Rafale costs 250 million a piece and Mig-35 will be available for just a third of that price.

 

[Kshatriya87]

http://www.financialexpress.com/ind...ighter-jet-make-in-india-rafale-mmrca/780055/
Sorry, Russia. Indian Air Force is unlikely to go in for the MiG-35 fighter jet; here’s why
MiG-35 is Russia's most advanced 4++ generation fighter jet - and it wants to sell it to India!
By: Smriti Jain | Published: July 26, 2017 1:20 PM

No, feel defence and aviation experts. Air Vice Marshal (Retd) Manmohan Bahadur and a Distinguished Fellow, CAPS is of the view that India has already made its choice clear by deciding on the Rafale. “The Indian Air Force has made its choice of a twin engine fighter aircraft – the Rafale. Whenever we add more fighter jets, they should be Rafales, not the MiG-35s,” Manmohan Bahadur tells FE Online. “When the MMRCA deal for IAF was in process, the MiG-35 did not make the final cut,” he says. “Also, getting a completely new aircraft would involve an entirely new set of maintenance and logistics support. There is no point investing in that,” he adds.

Agrees Colonel (Retd) KV Kuber, Independent Consultant Defence and Aerospace, who believes that as far as fighter jets are concerned, India should look at the upgrade package for the Sukhoi-30 MKI fleet rather than go for a new warplane altogether. “There is no point introducing a new platform for the IAF. For twin-engine fighter aircraft, we are already getting the Rafales. We already have the bouquet of fighter aircraft, we have the Jaguars, Mirage 2000s, Sukhoi 30 MKIs. MiG-35 had been part of the MMRCA bid, but did not qualify. Russia may indeed have improved upon it, but the fact is that India doesn’t need a new type of aircraft to understand and absorb into its defence ecosystem,” Kuber tells FE Online. “Going ahead we should either acquire more Rafales or definitely go in for the upgrade package of Sukhoi 30-MKIs,” he says. Kuber is also of the view that MiG-35 is still an evolving platform and the Russian Air Force is also yet to get it.




WTH

Arre !!! how can Su-30MKI upgrade be the replacement for the MMRCA requirements of IAF. Medium is medium, Heavy cannot replace medium bhai.

Rafale costs 250 million a piece and Mig-35 will be available for just a third of that price.

Seems like Rafale has thrown some heavy amount under the table.

 

[Arihant]

http://www.financialexpress.com/ind...ighter-jet-make-in-india-rafale-mmrca/780055/
Sorry, Russia. Indian Air Force is unlikely to go in for the MiG-35 fighter jet; here’s why
MiG-35 is Russia's most advanced 4++ generation fighter jet - and it wants to sell it to India!
By: Smriti Jain | Published: July 26, 2017 1:20 PM

No, feel defence and aviation experts. Air Vice Marshal (Retd) Manmohan Bahadur and a Distinguished Fellow, CAPS is of the view that India has already made its choice clear by deciding on the Rafale. “The Indian Air Force has made its choice of a twin engine fighter aircraft – the Rafale. Whenever we add more fighter jets, they should be Rafales, not the MiG-35s,” Manmohan Bahadur tells FE Online. “When the MMRCA deal for IAF was in process, the MiG-35 did not make the final cut,” he says. “Also, getting a completely new aircraft would involve an entirely new set of maintenance and logistics support. There is no point investing in that,” he adds.

Agrees Colonel (Retd) KV Kuber, Independent Consultant Defence and Aerospace, who believes that as far as fighter jets are concerned, India should look at the upgrade package for the Sukhoi-30 MKI fleet rather than go for a new warplane altogether. “There is no point introducing a new platform for the IAF. For twin-engine fighter aircraft, we are already getting the Rafales. We already have the bouquet of fighter aircraft, we have the Jaguars, Mirage 2000s, Sukhoi 30 MKIs. MiG-35 had been part of the MMRCA bid, but did not qualify. Russia may indeed have improved upon it, but the fact is that India doesn’t need a new type of aircraft to understand and absorb into its defence ecosystem,” Kuber tells FE Online. “Going ahead we should either acquire more Rafales or definitely go in for the upgrade package of Sukhoi 30-MKIs,” he says. Kuber is also of the view that MiG-35 is still an evolving platform and the Russian Air Force is also yet to get it.




WTH

Arre !!! how can Su-30MKI upgrade be the replacement for the MMRCA requirements of IAF. Medium is medium, Heavy cannot replace medium bhai.

Rafale costs 250 million a piece and Mig-35 will be available for just a third of that price.

Rafale cost is around 91 million..Not 250 million a piece. after adding the cost for upgradation according to Indian needs it will cost around $100-109 million a piece.

 

[Arihant]

€3.42 billion is for the cost of the platform; another €1.8 billion is for support and infrastructure supplies; €1.7 billion will be spent to meet India-specific changes on the aircraft; €710 million is the additional weapons package; and €353 million is the cost of performance-based logistics support

 

[mayfair]

IAF and IN have had huge troubles maintaining the availability of Mig 29 and Mig 29K. The availabilities are dismal so to speak.

If Russians are really serious about Mig 35 then they could start by demonstrating their willingness and determination to provide proper support for Mig 29 and Mig 29K