India to deny Pakistan strategic depth in Afghanistan

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  1. LETHALFORCE

    LETHALFORCE Moderator Moderator

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    India wants to deny Pakistan strategic depth in Afghanistan - Khaama Press (KP) | Afghan Online Newspaper

    According to a report released by US congress, India is looking to prevent Afghanistan to become a strategic depth for Pakistan and in the meantime is not keen to have a major security role in Afghanistan to inflame the Islamabad’s sentiments, The Economic Times reported.
    The report by prepared by the Congressional Research Service (CRS) also termed Kabul’s handling of its two crucial neighbours a ‘delicate balancing act’.
    In a bid to help the congressmen make informed decisions Congressional Research Service (CRS) provides periodic report.
    According to the report New Delhi is wary of the reconciliation efforts with the Taliban and the report also details India’s activities which are inverse of Pakistan.
    CRS Afghan report said, “The interests and activities of India in Afghanistan are the inverse of those of Pakistan: India’s goals are to deny Pakistan ‘strategic depth’ in Afghanistan, to deny Pakistan the ability to block India from trade and other connections to Central Asia and beyond, and to prevent militants in Afghanistan from attacking Indian targets in Afghanistan.”
    The report further added India in the recent past has stepped up contact with Northern Alliance, which it supported in the past. This comes as India is wary the recent reconciliation efforts with the Taliban, which will give Pakistan more influence in Afghanistan.
    “India saw the Afghan Taliban’s hosting of al Qaeda during 1996-2001 as a major threat to India itself because of al Qaeda’s association with radical Islamic organisations in Pakistan, such as LeT….,” the report said.
    In the meantime the report says United States is backing the delicate balancing by Afghanistan after soughting close ties to India without alarming Pakistan.
    The report also added Hamid Karzai visited Delhi to sign the “strategic partnership” pact with India following recriminations against Pakistan shortly after former Afghan president Burhanuddin Rabbani was assassinated last year.
    According to CRS report the pact between Afghanistan and Pakistan affirmed Pakistan’s worst fears because it gave India, for the first time, a formal role as one of the guarantors of Afghan stability, and provided for expanded India-Afghanistan political and cultural ties.
     
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    If India is not proactive, it will lose Afghanistan. Seriously we cannot be looking at "not hurting Paki sensibilities" it is ridiculous.
     
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    Atleast work something with Hazaras,Tajiks etc I believe Pashtuns are more pro-pakistan .
     
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    how strong is haqqanis in Afghanistan??? only they are pro pakis rest hate pakis..
     
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    Better to have a couple of Indian divisions to provide security to Indian economic efforts there.
     
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    The key word is cantonments. If India can assist ANA build more and more cantonments in next 10 years the Pakistani bullying will wean off.
     
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    Base one or two fighter squadron in Tajikistan or in Afghan , Move in Army regiment & paramilitary to protect your economic intrest

    Or else just get out from afghan immediately don't waste hard earned tax payers money for nothing:mad::mad:
     
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    At least not on paper or in news articles.

    but ur right.
     
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    Not possible now.
     
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    It is other way round and with recent sweeting ties between america-pakistan , pakistan would deny strategic/non-strategic depth to india. And indian babu`s would do nothing but wait and watch
     
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    Americans want a swift and bug free exit from Afghanistan, to give their long stay a reasonable conclusion.
    For that they would need to come up with a political landscape of post US-NATO Afghanistan.
    This landscape will invariably have space for the local powers many of whom are forms of rag tag militia supported by Pakistan. Otherwise the solution would not be considered legitimate or of genuine effort.
    Taliban are a defeated power in Afghanistan, not a rejected power. Unfortunately they are 'sons of the soil'. They will make a come back.
    But the problem is not Taliban's share in Afghan governanace. It is what they would do and how.
    Post US Afghanistan is going to have stormy upheavals, best case - in politics .. or worst case - back on the battlefields.
    Americans cannot be expected to cover for us.
    Our only option is to stand really close with our allies in Afghanistan or else we will be taken for a rough ride.
    Idnetify you allies, have a close one on one discussions with them and ensure your full presence there even if only as an observer and occasional advisor.
    It is a martial land. Any step taken back would be invitation to scathing attacks. Only the strong are respected there, not the posh.

    Regards,
    Virendra
     
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    Sending Indian troops to die in Afghanistan not a wise move, better deny it through economic and military aid the use of hard power is a complete NO.

    We don't want Islamist to unite to fight against India :p
     
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    The days of "strategic depth" are long gone for Pakistan. We will have a security pact in place with the Americans till 2024 with 10k US special forces and fighter squadrons stationed in Bagram, so the Pakistanis are welcome to try. Add to that the massive casualty rate sustained by the Taliban (5000 minimum per year, and that is just the bodies that can be officially counted) and they won't be able to sustain it for much longer.

    As far as India is concerned, it has to step up and contribute military aid alongside its economic aid, specially dam construction (we don't have a water treaty with Pakistan :D .) It is missing a historic opportunity to encircle Pakistan. Now let me put the important part in bold letters:

    There is absolutely no guarantee that Karzai's successor will be as India-friendly as he was. In fact, he may orient towards China if India is still hesitant to help. China still has one trump card: direct access to its market via the border.

    The only major economic effort is iron blocks in Bamiyan. There have been zero attacks in Bamiyan over the past 11 years, it is probably safer than some indian states.
    They are active in Khost and Paktia. They are strong in the sense that they have conducted the once-in-a-moon major suicide attack, otherwise their battlefield capability is limited, considering their high rate of being killed/captured. I consider them much more of a Pakistani group in the sense that the founders have spent the last 40 years in Pakistan and most of their well-trained fighters are Pakistani and/or Arab.
     
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    well certainly in the end pashtoon majority areas will have to merge with pakistan be it after 1 decade or 2

    Afghanistan without pakistan is like human without food..

    the reason karzai

    Pakistan our twin brother, India a friend: Karzai - Hindustan Times

    pashtoons brother are already suffering in afghanistan because of non afghan uzbeks..later on we can bring total afghanistan into pak but initial step should be merging the pashtoon majority areas with pak
     
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    ^ Get Karachi under control first :rofl:
     
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    we are more concerned about our afghan brothers..only pashtoon

    are you a uzbek?or a false flagger?
     
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    He is a human being.

    That is what is being told.
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Pakistan is in such a turmoil in the NW, Balochistan, Northern Areas, even Sind that they should care more about the the depth of Pakistan itself, rather than worry about strategic depth.
     
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    You are more concerned about Afghans than your own people in Pakistan? :shocked:
    No wonder then .... :tsk:
    Ever since Pakistan became "concerned" about their afghan "brothers" .. we've seen where and to what Afghanistan has come.
    Hope the Afghans would learn from history, for their own sake.
     
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    We are more than aware of Pakistani duplicity. This is one of the more common sights on Afghan streets:
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    Don't give much credit to his comments about "Pashtun suffering". Pashtuns are allocated at least every 6 out of 10 government jobs, and that ratio gets higher the higher the position. They also get numerous other benefits and control.
     

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