India suspects British backing of Pak-Afghan intel cooperation

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    India suspects British backing of Pak-Afghan intel cooperation

    NEW DELHI: India suspects British involvement in putting together a controversial agreement between Pakistan's ISI and Afghan intelligence service, NDS. India's annoyance could impact a possible visit to the UK by Prime Minister Narendra Modi, tentatively being planned for the end of the year.


    While the MoU itself has not yet been made public, a couple of clauses which have leaked out have added to India's anger. One of them is that each spy service would "refrain" from criticizing the other in public, among other things. More important, they agreed to "refrain" from cooperating with "hostile foreign agencies". For years, that was Afghan description for ISI itself. Post the agreement, the "foreign agencies" said sources, indicate India.

    Pakistan, sources said, has already started a steady flow of reports to Afghanistan about alleged Indian "hand" in recent violent incidents, many of which though bearing clear hand of the Taliban, have not been claimed by anybody. This is in addition to a sustained media campaign within Pakistan blaming the Indian agency, RAW, for blasts and killings in the country. Over the past decade, India has built significant ties with Afghanistan's security establishment, which the MoU seeks to actively destroy, Indians believe.

    A second inclusion is even more curious - asking Afghanistan to present Pakistan and the ISI in a "favourable" light. Sources here said countries routinely engage in intelligence cooperation with other countries, but they don't involve MoUs, nor do they involve a public relations activity.

    If implemented, India fears it would mean that the NDS would have to engage in domestic political activity in the same way the ISI does inside Pakistan. Many in the security establishment here are joining the dots - and coming up with some uncomfortable conclusions that much of this is intended to target India itself.

    The question Indians are asking is what does the UK or other "external" forces hope to get out of this exercise? The MoU has created a popular backlash inside Afghanistan forcing President Ashraf Ghani to backtrack after it became public that even the NDS chief had opposed it. It has lowered his standing both inside Pakistan (because he will not be able to deliver on the MoU) and inside his own country. It has also brought his predecessor Hamid Karzai out of a self-imposed silence to become a powerful opposition voice.


    As a damage control, Ghani took recourse to some hardline rhetoric against Pakistan, by accusing it of waging an "undeclared war". "The Taliban have declared their spring offensive, massive terrorist attacks have been carried out," he said in a letter released to the media at an international security conference in Doha. "The public is asking whether there has been any return from President Ghani's efforts to secure enduring peace and cooperation with Pakistan?" the letter states.

    While publicly India has maintained a stoic front, New Delhi has privately been very critical of the Afghans for allowing themselves to be conned by Pakistan in this manner. Modi met Karzai, who stopped by New Delhi en route to Beijing for a CICA conference last week, indicating India's continued support for him, and even a silent endorsement of his criticism of Ghani's actions.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...an-intel-cooperation/articleshow/47522070.cms
     
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    So the Brits are at it again............. stabbing India in the back seems to be the goal, what else could it be?
     
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    Can any one explain why brits, usa en china want to squeeze India, in what ever form they can direct or indirect?
    what is the strategic depth they got playing against us , even at the cost of terror attacks spreading into there country through there old ally pakistan?
    Are these countries still pursue old intelligence doctrine of 1960's?
    Why they fear India free land access in to central asia and middle eastern arab countries. If so why they want to befriend with us (is it a old way to stab us in the back)?
    Why we are spending billions of dollars on defense sector?(only used IF ever war happens), when we are just beside pakistan, which is most strategic location in world?
    What makes pakistan most precious strategic country of west?

    Are we missing any key point.
    If yes, it is intelligence gathering, instigating and control by hook or crook of pakistan intelligence of afganistan or any other part in middle east , gulf of eden and africa is the only precious treasure which is attracting brits, usa and europe.
    If so what can we do, of course we dont need to be terrorists like pakis, Invest those billions on intelligence war get the foot hold on all locations, Increase surveillance for presence (what is now is not enough). Daily wars are already being fought in intelligence community with isi, All i wish is that modi gives full go ahead and funds to intelligence assets outside country.
    If our intelligence capability has reached such a level that, on signal terror outfit heads can be blown at any point.
    That is when western countries will leave pakistan alone and side with India.
     
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    Sorry, but the conclusion is wrong. Why would anyone do that to India (when India isn't that important anyway)?
     
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    To keep India unstable is important..... This is one way to do it, to cut India's sphere on influence in afghanistan by supporting a ghani and ISI caucus...
    This also helps the ISI to attack Indian assets in Afghanistan with impunity.....

     
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    The Western power block is unhappy with India's role in Afghanistan, so much so that the US tried to keep India out of any discussion involving Afghanistan in past and in present. India's interests in South and Central Asia are in conflict with the interests of the western nations.

    The fact is not hidden from the NATO block that India, Russia, China and Iran have found a common ground for cooperation in Afghanistan. Once the last NATO soldier departs from Afghanistan India will move in and so will the other countries mentioned above. The Iraq story (where western companies got hold over all natural resources) will not get repeated and the western block will gain absolutely nothing after loosing thousands of soldiers if things go as per India's plans.

    Seems like the intel cooperation plan was a still-birth. India-1, UK-0
     

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