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grampiguy

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A little old news..but can anyone tell if this is true?

Report: Syria Converted Combat Aircraft to Drones with WMDs
A MiG-21 combat aircraft flown by a Syrian pilot who defected was found to have been upgraded back in Syria to carry chemical weapons.

Syria Converted Aircraft to Drones with WMDs - Middle East - News - Arutz Sheva

If it is true, then we can use the Kaveri...seriously that engine needs to get up in the air..

http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/indian-air-force/64835-kaveri-infamous-mig-21-fleet.html
Its possible to convert MiG-21 into a combat drone. Chinese have done this quite frequently. They call it J-7 Drone which they have used in target practice, live fire exercise and many more. Chengdu J-7 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. So its quite possible and it would not be a bad idea for IAF to convert some of them for technology learning for future UCAVs.
 

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@grampiguy, J-7 is a Chinese plane. They can do whatever they want with it. Mig-21 is licensed manufacture - means India has to go to Russia to modify it.

There is no desire anywhere to convert Mig-21 to drones. The only desire is to retire the plane. However a large number of Mig-21 are in storage. Means that these planes can be used if needed. However IAF does not love Mig-23 and Mig-27. Mig-23 is scrapped. Some Mig-27 may be in storage.
 
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The IAF numbers are deceptive. The large number of Su-30 represents a capability greater than the sum of Mig-21, Mig-23 fleets they replaced. The numbers have gone down in every country including Russia as the planes have become better.

Su-30 is a very capable plane. It is foolish to run down Su-30.
 

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@grampiguy, J-7 is a Chinese plane. They can do whatever they want with it. Mig-21 is licensed manufacture - means India has to go to Russia to modify it.

There is no desire anywhere to convert Mig-21 to drones. The only desire is to retire the plane. However a large number of Mig-21 are in storage. Means that these planes can be used if needed. However IAF does not love Mig-23 and Mig-27. Mig-23 is scrapped. Some Mig-27 may be in storage.
As it is, these decommissioned MiG-21s will eventually be scrapped. SO why not use them constructively? What kind of permission now is required when these planes will become scrap metal soon? Will the Kabadi ask for Russian permission before turning it into some other thing?

Some of them can be used for test models for other technologies, e.g. in engine, radar, EW, C-2 etc. One has to be creative to use all these opportunities. Almost every week, there is a news item which says that no test models available for testing this or that technology. Well..use these !!
 
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As it is, these decommissioned MiG-21s will eventually be scrapped. SO why not use them constructively? What kind of permission now is required when these planes will become scrap metal soon? Will the Kabadi ask for Russian permission before turning it into some other thing?

Some of them can be used for test models for other technologies, e.g. in engine, radar, EW, C-2 etc. One has to be creative to use all these opportunities. Almost every week, there is a news item which says that no test models available for testing this or that technology. Well..use these !!
I discovered this thread just now, and wow it seems like a very good idea. Any reason, why haven't we done it yet? Its been 4 years since this point was discussed here on this forum, if someone had tried it, we would have Drone Migs flying right now. If its about the price or license issue how much can it cost, some million at max? Mig21 is very capable flying machine, just not capable enough to put our pilot inside it, cuz it can go down anytime. It can be a good testbed for developing UCAV technologies. And picture the 27 Feb incident, how different would have been that situation if the Mig was controlled from the Su30 or AWACS in our side in a buddy mode? Plus, all that talk of fighter shortfall immediately goes down the drain.

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Flt Lt Bhawana Kanth adds another feather to her cap by completing Day Operational syllabus on MiG-21 Bison aircraft. She is the first women fighter pilot to be qualified to undertake missions by day on a fighter aircraft.
 

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Bhawana joined the fighter squadron in Nov 2017 & flew the 1st solo on MiG-21 Bison in Mar 2018. With her dedication, hard work & perseverance she has become the 1st women Officer to achieve this feat. She is from the first batch of women fighter pilots of the IAF.
 

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