The wheat US provided for free during the famines?Seriously you might hate the west but give due respect where it is due.
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Oh for fucks sake USA had nothing to do with Indian poverty
This is the state of knowledge of a padha likha Doctor in India. No wonder we Indians keep getting brickbats in Main Stream Media.
Doctor sahib, a country can be poor and not be experiencing famines. A country can experience famines too without being poor.
The famines in India had a lot to do with incessant warring that the West did and being a colony, Indians were forced into. The Bengal Famine 1943 had a lot to do with the then leader of the west and millions of Indians died in that for no fault of their own. That is why a rank slave like Sen keeps blaming the famine on Indian preference for boys and such like. Now tell us how is your argument any different from Amartya Sen.
We were poor from before that famine but that famine was due to the West.
For ease of your intellect – Poverty != Famine 
Had your chacha and his Mahatma, not sung high praise for the war in europe and sent our soldiers there we probably would not even have had any famine. The West would have been dead. Unfortunately for us, Bhagwan had other plans.
And precisely because of that famine we had to beg from those who had enslaved us. Any right thinking man will seek to correct his own state of affairs, should he find himself or his country in such dire straits. He would not spend his days trying to suck upto the people who raped his country. Tell us, how you are different from Pakis, who also worship the system that enslaved them.
For others who live on reality and not self delusion like you do, here are the facts:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/India–United_States_relations
In the formative years from 1947-59, India received 1.7bn $ in aid from USA
Indian nuclear energy program was initially helped by USA .
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIRUS
Fuck even one steel plant was set up by India with western help
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rourkela_Steel_Plant
Ok now he give links. I actually request members to read up and form their own judgement about what it is.
Lets see if you find a thousand words of ‘good doggy’ comments in that wiki link about India US relations. And this is supposed to be the sum total of all foreign policy. Now contrast that with what the MoEA has completed in just the last 1 year.
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The best of the ‘good doggy’ comment:
In 1959,
Dwight D. Eisenhowerwas the first US President to visit India to strengthen the staggering ties between the two nations. He was so supportive that the
New York Timesremarked, "It did not seem to matter much whether Nehru had actually requested or been given a guarantee that the US would help India to meet further Chinese Communist aggression. What mattered was the obvious strengthening of Indian-American friendship to a point where no such guarantee was necessary."
Where no such guarantee was necessary
Man this General sahib says something that can be interpreted by anybody like anything. But by 1959 the Chinese were already nearly out of the Soviet-Sino accords. And the Americans knew that through their sources. Just before 1962 the Chinese had already gained information from their ‘sources’ about the impending Cuban Crisis which happened before the full fledged Chinese attack of 1962. The Tibetans had already been abandoned. So the fact do provide a context to only one of the various ways that comment can be taken.
Now how is that not a two timing of Nehru. I don’t mind the fact that Nehru got shafted. I do mind the fact that with Nehru we too had to suffer. Now we have new Nehrus, advocating much of the same.
Even in 1962 the US leadership was saying things like
During John F. Kennedy's Presidency (1961–63), India was considered a strategic partner and counterweight to the rise of Communist China. Kennedy said,
"Chinese Communists have been moving ahead the last 10 years. India has been making some progress, but if India does not succeed with her 450 million people, if she can't make freedom work, then people around the world are going to determine, particularly in the underdeveloped world, that the only way they can develop their resources is through the Communist system."
Nehru was stupid no doubt but it is equally stupid to say that the West was supporting India.
(2) Ok now to the next link. That Cirus link also.
Do you know why the Indian establishment named that test reactor Cirus. It is actually CIR.US – Canada-India Reactor, US. Named so to exhibit and acknowledge how that reactor was obtained. Actually since India did not have the resources and because Indian leadership of the time imagined the West as a ‘source of technology’ so they went ahead and bought that reactor in a three-way deal. Canada to provide the reactor and India to do the research and perhaps US to provide the Heavy Water should India’s own plant not be ready to do that. This was 1955. Now all through the years the Non proliferation lobby has maintained that we Indians would not have been able to do it had the West not been idiot enough to supply Cirus and Dhruva. Problem is that this makes it sound like India was taking the benefit of the West. All these matters should have been in the open trade category for India had the West been honest about what it was saying in public like the stupid General above. Anyhow this is not like its all. These idiots were so mortified of Communist threat that at one point a US secretary threatened India against supplying Thorium Nitrate to China and forced Indian leadership of the time to agree to supply all exportable surplus of rare earth elements and Thorium Nitrate to US alone at a price to be decided ‘mutually’. Now as if this was not all, despite all the pledges that Indian leadership and scientist of the time were open to giving, there was an actual plan afoot to force India to lift the ban on export of thorium rich sands. That ban was sought to be lifted using the leverage of the Food Aid Act. That means India was to agree to lift the ban should we need food for our famished population. The ban was in place because the then scientist believed that it was a national resource to be used for the benefit of India. But the sand mafia in the West could not bear it, seeing the kala hindoo being alive and also getting to reach some rudimentary nuclear electricity capabilities.
Anyhow all this is done while we were also willing to import equipment and stuff from Soviets. But instead the West forced us to write agreements to not have anything to do with the Soviets and the Chinese, despite the fact that India was actually seeking Nuke umbrella from the west and was in no position to start threatening West with the use of Nukes. But no sir this was not all. Do you know why we got the swimming pool type reactors and did not take the Chinese route. The suggestion actually came from a UK based scientist. Now look at the differences in approach and the differences in results between India and China. Over the years India has bought items of tech from all over the world including uranium from China and supplied stuff to countries across the world including China but this thekedari of NPT was the one that kept India from doing all this much much faster. But despite their obscurantism we have completed building these facilities and more:
Nuclear-Component Production
Beryllium Machining Facility
Bharat Heavy Electricals Limited
Central Workshops
HMT Machine Tools Limited
Indian Institute of Science
Nuclear-Enrichment
Boron Enrichment Plant (BEP)
Rattehali Enrichment Facility
Uranium Enrichment Plant
Nuclear-Exploration and Mining
Atomic Minerals Directorate for Exploration and Research
Bhatin Mine
Jaduguda Uranium Mine
Mineral Separation Plant
Nuclear-Fuel Fabrication
Advanced Fuel Fabrication Facility (AFFF)
Ceramic Fuel Fabrication Facility (CFFF)
New Uranium Fuel Assembly Plant
New Zirconium Sponge Plant (New ZSP)
Nuclear Fuel Complex (NFC)
Special Materials Plant
Zirconium Fabrication Plant (ZFP)
Nuclear-Heavy Water Production
Baroda Heavy Water Plant
Hazira Heavy Water Plant
Heavy Water Board
Manuguru Heavy Water Plant
Nangal Heavy Water Plant
Talcher Heavy Water Plant
Thal Heavy Water Plant
Tuticorin Heavy Water Plant
Nuclear-Power Reactor
Kaiga Atomic Power Station
Kakrapar Atomic Power Station (KAPS)
Madras Atomic Power Station (MAPS)
Narora Atomic Power Station (NAPS)
Prototype Fast Breeder Reactor (PFBR)
Rajasthan Atomic Power Station (RAPS)
Tarapur Atomic Power Station (TAPS)
Nuclear-Reprocessing
Fast Reactor Fuel Reprocessing Plant (FRFRP)
Kalpakkam Atomic Reprocessing Plant
Plutonium Reprocessing Plant
Power Reactor Fuel Reprocessing Plant
Nuclear-Research Reactors
Advanced Heavy Water Reactor (AHWR)
Apsara Research Reactor
Canadian-Indian Reactor, U.S.
Dhruva Research Reactor
Fast Breeder Test Reactor
Kalpakkam Mini Reactor
Kota Heavy Water Plant
Prototype Fast Breeder Reactor
Purnima I-II-III
Zerlina
Nuclear-Research and Development
Bhabha Atomic Research Center
Center for Advanced Technology
Center for Development of Advanced Computing
Indian Rare Earths Limited
Indira Gandhi Center for Atomic Research
Institute for Plasma Research
Institute of Mathematical Sciences
Institute of Physics
Mineral Research and Development Center
National Center for Compositional Characterization of Materials
Saha Institute for Nuclear Physics
Supercomputer Education and Research Center
Tata Institute of Fundamental Research
Variable Energy Cyclotron Center
Please be my guest. Sanction me more please.
(3) Now the third stupid link about Rourkela, and I present to you the funny things happening around the world and how things actually work in the real world. Mind you this is from a westerner writing for a western media
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/arti...n/1965-01-01/balance-sheet-soviet-foreign-aid
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/print/1108662
Foreign Affairs
Home > A Balance Sheet of Soviet Foreign Aid
Friday, January 1, 1965
A Balance Sheet of Soviet Foreign Aid
Marshall I. Goldman
The Russians have a knack for the spectacular. What success they have had in foreign aid has come from concentrating on certain key projects which are often industrial in nature. These major impact projects not only excite the imagination but often have productive and visible results. The workmanship and administrative efficiency that go into completing these showpieces are good, indeed often better than are found in the U.S.S.R. itself. The steel plant at Bhilai is one of the largest and most successful in all of the underdeveloped world. The decision to build it came after West Germany and Great Britain had also agreed to build steel mills for India. Resolved to win the competition, the Russians not only shamed the West Germans into offering a lower interest rate, but completed their plan much faster and built their mill more cheaply than either the English or Germans did. Although the German and British plants are technically more complex, most Indians agree that the Soviets have outperformed their competitors.
Please excuse this Aid vs. Aid.
@Mad Indian cannot seemingly understand things any other way. Even in Aid the Soviet Aid was for enabling us to catch the fist and not to supply the fish from only one thekedar ki dukaan.
Is that why India became a soviet vassal? More bull shit.
Lost count of how many times you have called India a Vassal. Good to expose you for what you are.
Guys where and by what kind of people, have you heard India being called a Vassal.
Of course it did. India was close to USSR and it was natural for USA to side with porkis .
That is the trouble with you. India under Nehru was being sold for next to nothing just so chamchas of the West could romanticize about their links with the advanced civilization to which they aspired. India even if it tried to could not have gone against the wishes of the west during Nehru years. People had reposed faith in the only leader available – Nehru.
India did not go to USSR till much later when nearly all requests began getting turned down. Like in the comment by that stupid General Eisenhower. And our stupid ‘leaders’ were beholden to equally stupid people from US.
Too bad your sugar daddy is moving onto other lovers like porkis and chinis now. Who will take care of your poor broken heart?
Says the Russian slave who is defending Indian vassaldom to Russians and suggest than India remain a Russian vassal than assert itself independently. But then again I suspect you have brain damage and so you might not be aware of how pathetic your lack of self respect is.
More of the same kind of comments. You really have a very poor view of the rest of the Indians.
Your highness, you are a gift of God to us Indians.
Because of you we know what the chamchas are really like. You know Pakis keep calling us Vassals too. And yet look what just happened to them and look how Indian choices have opened up. I don’t actually mind be a Slave to freedom.
Let's see, so USA giving employment to Indians does not count as help USA has given for Indians then? Then why do you all sound like losers when USA reduces the no. of visas issued for Indians ?
Bhai we Indians also buy a lot of things from US. I would be willing to count employment to Expat Indians as ‘help’ to us if you are willing to count the imports made into India as an Indian ‘help’ to US.
Guys I am not crossing over to his POV. But needed to draw a revolting analogy merely to make
@Mad Indian understand the essential chamcha-ness of his servile logic. Most of the expats are there because they have been selected over and above the western kaamchors.
@jackprince and you agree with this moron.
Bhai
@jackprince please stop punching in likes. Doctor sahib may not be in his shop. No point giving him a heart attack.
