Gen Bikram's appointment: J&K hopes to clinch AFSPA issue now

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  1. nitesh

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    Now the plot is slowly unveiling, it explains the rush to make gen. VKS quit

    Gen Bikram's appointment: J&K hopes to clinch AFSPA issue now - Hindustan Times

    With just one announcement in the change of the guard in the Indian Army, the whole discourse on the repeal of the Armed Forces Special Powers Act (AFSPA) in Jammu and Kashmir has transformed from skepticism to high optimism.

    A new mood of high optimism spawned after the announcement of the appointment of Eastern Command chief Lt. Gen. Bikram Singh as the next army chief. It has spurred the hopes of the Omar Abdullah government that there would be flexibility in the army over the AFSPA issue.

    The government here hopes that the new army chief would be flexible on the AFSPA issue, government sources told Hindustan Times, after their stiff stand-off with the outgoing Chief of Army Staff Gen V K Singh over the issue.

    For the Omar Abdullah government, Gen. VK Singh was 'rigid'.

    The chief minister who had hosted breakfast for the army chief in November last year had failed to break the ice on the recall of AFSPA from some areas of Jammu and Kashmir, where army had neither been deployed nor conducted operations for years together.
    Thereafter, there has been little or no communication between the state government and the army since then.
    For Omar Abdullah, the removal of AFSPA has become a matter of political prestige. He wants his October 21st (2011) promise of removing the special powers of the security forces to be translated into action on the ground.

    That has not been happening so far.

    Political rival, Peoples Democratic Party, had made this 'issue' as its swan song in 2007 and had led a campaign within and outside the state legislature for the demilitarisation and removal of the special powers of the security forces. It did so, even when it was a part of the Congress-PDP coalition government that time.
    In fact, PDP had echoed, what Omar had said in a statement in the aftermath of his uncle Mustafa Kamal's diatribe against the army after a couple of grenade attacks in October itself, that the matter should be discussed with all, including army.

    Sources in the government made it clear that they would wait for the change of the guard at the army chief's level before resuming talks on the AFSPA .

    "The policy issues are not guided by these changes, a policy is a policy", said a senior army officer on condition of anonymity.

    But the perception and the tone and tenor of the dialogue can change with the change of the individuals at the top, according to sources in the state government.

    The AFSPA which gives immunity to the soldiers in counter-insurgency operations for their acts of omission and commission, is in force in 20 out of 22 districts of the state.
     
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    This is a malicious article that is trying to project that the new Chief was selected to be His Master's Voice of the Congress Govt's desires.

    I would be surprised if the new Chief will be as stupid as being projected.

    JJ Singh was a Stooge, till the Army told him that he will have to hold the albatross around his neck when he tried to toe the Congress' party line of demilitarising Siachen.

    But then JJ wanted a post retirement plum and he got it - Governorship of Arunachal!
     
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    Thanks for the reassurance sir

    I really wish General Bikram Singh really holds for what is right
     
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    I hope so too.

    But of late, I find that the Govt has churned the rot that politicians have injected into the Army some time back.

    The latest is the Def Min's accusation that Gen VK Singh was monitoring the Def Min illegally through Army eavesdropping equipment!

    One Lt Gen Tejinder Singh, ex DGMI was said to be the culprit as per VK Singh because Tejinder is a Adarsh scam chap and wanted to sort out VK Singh. And the latest is that Tejinder Singh has threatened he will take VK Singh to court!

    All the above is from open sources i.e. the media.

    What a mess the Army has been made into, thanks to the Politicians and the the pliant Chiefs!
     
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    Gen VK Singh should have gotten his date of birth fixed when he enlisted as a Lt instead of waiting till he is nearing retirement.

    Look at the mess dammit.
     
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    Easier said than done.

    Very few have the time to check one's personal details and then pursue it doggedly through the bureaucratic maze and red tape.

    All the flap over his age is the handiwork of JJ and his successor who were the most pliant Chiefs the Govt could ever have.
     
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    Who other than JJ can be a effective governor of sensitive Arunachal Pardesh.

    he is doing his job perfectly there
     
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    You really think so?

    He did not even know where the CM's helicopter crashed!

    What exactly has he done?

    His 'contribution' to the IA was pretending to be jangi, by thinking that on Friday if the IA wore combat dress, they would be warlike in mindset! Stupid and cosmetic.

    He agreed with MMS to de-militarise the Siachen Glacier. Speaks of his Strategic and tactical acumen! But high on ji hazoori.

    If one requires a military Governor for Arunachal, then why was it not the routine to appoint such military Governors?

    Were the non military Governors clots and did not do a sausage?
     
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    He is not there to check helicopter crash or sanitation problem. He is there to keep an eye on china and inform GOI with developments and possible solution
     
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    It wouldn't have been this hard if he did it before he became COAS. The internal politics of the army is open for everyone to see now.

    Hopefully the soon to be COAS Bikram Singh will follow in VK Singh's footsteps when it comes to discipline among the higher echelons.

    This confrontation could have been prevented. But this is India.
     
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    Always ready to please!
     
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    I would not be surprised if there is internal politics in the Army.

    Encouraged by politicians!

     
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    Really?

    Maybe you would know better, but then I have had acquaintance with Governors who were military men, who tell me a different story.

    Let us say JJ is only to look at China and not the happenings in the State.

    If that were so, and taking your view that he is there to watch China alone and reporting to the GoI, why open his mouth and say:

    I am sure he is not crosseyed!
     
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    Seems to have missed the 1965 and 1971 War, taken to be the litmus test for soldiering and experience.

    Maybe the info is incomplete?
     

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