Re: Japan proposes joint work on Australia sub fleet: report Sorry for the quick OT, but Japan is Western Geography= No (Land of rising Sun, one of the Eastern most nations) Ethnics = No (98% Yamato ethnic group, rest mostly Chinese and Koreans) Language= No (100% Nihongo; Script= kanji with added kana.) Culture= No Religion= No (around 1% xtian) Japan aligns with the usa (because of regional security threats and also well, because it has the largest collection of US troops outside the US-- so doesn't really have a choice), but that doesn't mean it is Western. If still in doubt try asking a Japanese whether he thinks japan is western It is just arrogance or ignorance on your part to proclaim that Japan is Western. --------- On topic. Japan has a well developed shipbuilding industry. And it needs to further strengthen its naval capabilities including naval shipbuilding. It is an eventuality that Japan will have to have a strong Navy. Japan doesn't have any resources (other than human). So a strong Navy is critical for Japan. And lets face it, the USA is not going to be around forever, to protect Japan from the obvious threat in the neighbourhood and to give Japan leverage in international relations and negotiations.