Electricity shortfall reaches record level

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Government failed to fulfill all claims as the circular debt resurged to 300 billion rupees.

LAHORE (Dunya News) – Power outage debunked government's hollow claims, breaking all previous records whereas the circular debt resurged to a hefty 300 billion rupees.

Loadshedding schedule issued by the Ministry of Water and Power and distribution companies is confined to papers. The energy deficit has confuted government's false claims.

The obsolete transmission systems have completely failed to accommodate the increasing energy demands. Lahore among other cities has also been facing the heat of incessant loadshedding. According to the officials of the Central Power control Centre and local distribution companies, the intermittent power supply is carried out in order to save the system from a major breakdown.

There isn't even a particular time of the day that the locals of Lahore are provided with continuous supply of electricity. In addition to this, technical issues at the Band Road grid station that caused to overload other system have worsened the situation.

In the wake of the circular debt resurging to 3oo billion rupees along with the power shortfall breaking all the prior records, Minister of Water and Power Khawaja Asif has apologized to the nation and pleaded to pray for rain.
Federal Minister for Water and Power Khawaja Asif had apologized to the nation for the unscheduled and prolonged hours of loadshedding throughout the country on Monday.
Addressing a joint press conference with State Minister for Water and Power, Asif said that the demand of electricity stood at 19,000MW against the production of 12,000MW. He said the government will have to take immediate measures to stop power theft and line losses to overcome the crisis.
He feared that the nation may have to face the same situation if the weather remains hot and dry for which the government was apologetic. Federal minister said the PML-N-led government was trying to add 6-7,000MW of electricity within two to three years in the system.
He further explained that nine power plants were shutdown due to hot weather because of which 1300MW was not supplied to the grid stations.
During the holy month of Ramazan, the government has failed to keep up with the tall claims pertaining to 'minimizing power cuts'.
With the mercury up surging towards 40 degrees Celsius, the ghost of unannounced and unremitting loadshedding is haunting Ramazan observers. The urban areas continue to face loadshedding for 12 to 14 hours whereas in rural areas it ranges from 18 to 20 hours, Dunya News reported.

Electricity shortfall reaches record level | Pakistan | Dunya News
 

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contradictory to @Neo claims that all is well in pakistan.

for neo this thread is also useless and full of troll
 
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This can be very inconvenient.:shocked:

Power cuts in hot weather multiply people's miseries

RAWALPINDI: With temperatures soaring above 40C, prolonged power shutdowns have made the blessed month of Ramazan a very testing time for the citizens of Rawalpindi.

"It is so hot that promises made by the government for sustained power supply during the holy month have all evaporated," said a citizen, ruing the up to 15-hour "loadshedding" in parts of the city.

Even Water and Power Minister Khawaja Asif feels helpless in the situation. On Tuesday, he sought divine intervention in the form of rains for improving the electricity supply.

"But Allah helps those who help themselves," reminded a citizen, echoing the view of those who do not subscribe to government's reasons for short supply and claims to improve the situation.

They say the PML-N government has no control on the situation and that power cuts are not evenly distributed in the city. In some areas the supply is shut off for shorter periods, they claim.

Water supply is also affected by power cuts

In Raja Bazaar and surrounding areas, loadshedding occurs only for seven to eight hours. "There is loadshedding in our area but not that much prolonged as is being experienced in the surrounding localities. Light goes for about seven hours daily in our locality," said Abdur Rasheed, a resident of Narankari Bazaar.

In the surrounding localities of Raja Bazaar, such as Westridge-III, Naseerabad, Misrial Road, Adiala Road, Bakra Mandi and Dhoke Syedan, the residents have to endure more than 14 hours of power cuts daily. "We face more electricity loadshedding compared to the inner city areas like Raja Bazaar," said Mohammad Raffique, a resident of Allahabad.

"The government is afraid of the opposition parties, especially the PTI, and tries to keep the loadshedding hours at a minimum in the constituencies of opposition MNAs Imran Khan and Sheikh Rashid Ahmed."

He was of the view that the government feared that if there was prolonged laodshedding, the opposition would launch street protests. In the past, all the anti-loadshedding protests in the garrison city were staged in Raja Bazaar and surrounding areas, he said.

Nasir Irfan, a resident of Gulshan-i-Nayyab, said household chores depended on electronic equipment and these became useless in the absence of electricity. He said for the last three days power outages occurred in his area from 2am to 3am, 5am to 6am, 7am to 8am, 10am to 11am, 1pm to 2pm, 3pm to 4pm, 5pm to 6pm and 11pm to midnight.

He said when the residents tried to contact the SDO concerned, he did not respond the calls. An official who received the complaint stated that it was forced loadshedding conducted from the main grid station at Sungjani.

Mohammad Naseer, a resident of Mohanpura, said low voltage was a new problem for them. "My air conditioner, iron and other electric appliances have gone out of order due to the drop in voltage."

He said it was difficult to spend hot days without electricity and water. The residents are facing difficulties because of power outages, he added.

Some residents suggested that the government should ban illumination of plazas, markets and billboards to save power. They said only a few people could afford UPS and power generators and the rest were suffering due to the power outages.

A senior official of the Islamabad Electric Supply Company (Iesco) told Dawn that there was no loadshedding during Sehr, Iftar and Taraweeh. He said some power outages during these periods were because of technical faults.

Area Duration of loadshedding

Raja Bazaar 7 hours

Pirwadhai 8 hours

Saddar 9 hours

Tench Bhatta 14 hours

Allahabad 13 hours

Naseerabad 13 hours

Misrial Road 13 hours

Satellite Town 8 hours

Adiala Road 12 hours

Dhoke Syedan 12 hours

Bakra Mandi 12 hours
 

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For a nation that has demand of 19000 MW and production of 12000 MW adding another 6000 to 7000 MW in the next 3 years!!!!!

Unbelieveable what kind of crap is being dished out. Do they even know about the cost of this??

Our friend Farhan used to talk about PM Sharif doing away with the circular debt, now it is at a record high.

The amount of money being spent on Nuclear reactors could easily have been used to set up civilian power plants, but then this is a nation which is ready to eat grass.
 

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For a nation that has demand of 19000 MW and production of 12000 MW adding another 6000 to 7000 MW in the next 3 years!!!!!

Unbelieveable what kind of crap is being dished out. Do they even know about the cost of this??

Our friend Farhan used to talk about PM Sharif doing away with the circular debt, now it is at a record high.

The amount of money being spent on Nuclear reactors could easily have been used to set up civilian power plants, but then this is a nation which is ready to eat grass.
The amount of money that Chinese are charging for the reactor is very high but, posters like @Neo, never seem to accept that.

I shall find out and link the discussion that had taken place on that.
 
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your post is useful in exemplifying pot calling kettle black :rofl:

India likely to see over 5% power shortage in current financial year - Economic Times

No electricity for 404 million people in India: IEA report | INDIAN POWER SECTOR

making Modi's efforts to attract FDI futile by infra deficit
Wow, talk about selective quoting.

1. The first article addresses shortage issues to be faced and the progress on countermeasure to nip it in the bud.
2. The second article is 4 years old.

And as far as your understanding of FDI goes, you probably meant FII right? FII as in foreign institutional investors? We can discuss this in detail all you want and further highlight this ignorance.

Good going!
 

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Wow, talk about selective quoting.

1. The first article addresses shortage issues to be faced and the progress on countermeasure to nip it in the bud.
2. The second article is 4 years old.

And as far as your understanding of FDI goes, you probably meant FII right? FII as in foreign institutional investors? We can discuss this in detail all you want and further highlight this ignorance.

Good going!
Alright, re. selective quoting,
1) u all deliberately ignore Pakistan's progress being made as repeated by Neo don't u, such as Sale Of Chinese Nuclear Reactor To Pakistan | Erewise
2) After 4 years twhat improvement has been made? Power outage in Delhi | Delhi News-Record

Regardless of FII or FDI poor infra severely impairs your attractiveness. This do u agree?
 
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Alright, re. selective quoting,
1) u all deliberately ignore Pakistan's progress being made as repeated by Neo don't u, such as Sale Of Chinese Nuclear Reactor To Pakistan | Erewise
2) After 4 years twhat improvement has been made? Power outage in Delhi | Delhi News-Record

Regardless of FII or FDI poor infra severely impairs your attractiveness. This do u agree?
You should track progress of different power plants operational by comparing those same ones you quoted in 2010 article and as of now. Secondly, why do you ignore what Pakistani believe in - that they need nuclear reactors rather then power to counter enemies. If that is the mindset ("we will eat grass if we have to"), then it sure is amusing to see where all that is leading to now.

As far as your debate about FII/FDI, come prepared next time as to what is "attractive" and what is not. Me quoting foreign inflows would be too easy to negate your idiotic musings.

Finally, Japan and European infra companies lining up to bag projects in India is what you mean I suppose. :thumb:
 

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your post is useful in exemplifying pot calling kettle black :rofl:

India likely to see over 5% power shortage in current financial year - Economic Times

No electricity for 404 million people in India: IEA report | INDIAN POWER SECTOR

making Modi's efforts to attract FDI futile by infra deficit
Great comlade, great admiration for the circle-j*rk relationship between the two of your countries. Is this what they mean when they talk of shanghai statistics? In pakistan's case demand of 19,000MW against the production of 12,000MW is a deficit of 37% and you compare that with India's projected deficit in the future of 5%? Guess what the projected deficit for pak will be in the same period.

This post of yours is a fine specimen of greater than...sweeter than... aka Beijing BS!
 

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Great comlade, great admiration for the circle-j*rk relationship between the two of your countries. Is this what they mean when they talk of shanghai statistics? In pakistan's case demand of 19,000MW against the production of 12,000MW is a deficit of 37% and you compare that with India's projected deficit in the future of 5%? Guess what the projected deficit for pak will be in the same period.

This post of yours is a fine specimen of greater than...sweeter than... aka Beijing BS!
5% shortage is a macro figure for India as a whole against DEMAND. What abt "No electricity for 404 million people in India"? No demand from them counted? Get closer to a specimen at micro level

Indian power shortage is Achilles heel of economy - FT.com
Electricity, 24 hours a day, is a service taken for granted in industrialised economies. But not in the industrial zone of Noida on the outskirts of New Delhi – and especially not in the baking heat of summer.

"We hardly get 50 per cent of our requirement," says S. Singhvi, finance director of Ginni Filaments, a textiles and clothing company with 5,000 employees across India. "Compared to last year, it's getting worse."

With daytime temperatures reaching nearly 50C, and householders and farmers demanding ever more power for air conditioners and water pumps, he complains that Ginni's Noida garment factory must deal with repeated power disruptions and run its own generators to produce electricity at five times the cost of the supply from the grid.
New Delhi the capital of India! Electricity has now become an integral part of life. Can u imagine a world without electricity?

Comrade, truth hurts!
 
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New Delhi the capital of India! Electricity has now become an integral part of life. Can u imagine a world without electricity?

Comrade, truth hurts!
Mr. 50 cent Sir, Load shedding in Delhi was mainly a Management issue (conflict between Government and Distribution companies). :nod:
Stop being selective and have a look at this:

An increase of nearly 20,000 MW of generation capacity narrowed the country's peak power deficit to 3.7 percent last month from 6.3 percent in June 2013, according to an official data.

Peak power deficit or shortfall in electricity supply when the demand is at its peak, last month, was 5,295 MW or 3.7 per cent, the CEA (Central Electricity Authority) data showed.

Good news: India's power shortage has finally halved from its peak - Firstbiz
India has improved and will keep improving. :thumb:.
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Why People's Republic of China with no dearth of Slave labourer's is helping Pakistan with installation of Power Plants ? :confused:
 
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Mr. 50 cent Sir, Load shedding in Delhi was mainly a Management issue (conflict between Government and Distribution companies). :nod:
Stop being selective and have a look at this:


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Why People's Republic of China with no dearth of Slave labourer's is helping Pakistan with installation of Power Plants ? :confused:
They are selling them over priced nuclear power plant for the sake of friendship. What more do you expect?

As far as coal fired PP is concerned, one of their companies actually was interested in 2007 and setup a office in Pakistan but went back a year later never to return. No amount of persuasion by Zardari and co. brought them back.

Insider sources say, they had hired a Pathan manager in their Pakistan office.:rofl:
 
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5% shortage is a macro figure for India as a whole against DEMAND. What abt "No electricity for 404 million people in India"? No demand from them counted? Get closer to a specimen at micro level

Indian power shortage is Achilles heel of economy - FT.com


New Delhi the capital of India! Electricity has now become an integral part of life. Can u imagine a world without electricity?

Comrade, truth hurts!
First of all, I am no comrade, I have never subscribed to the abomination of communism.

You ale light, The truth hurts, and that is why we strive to fix it unlike some who prefer to bury their heads in the sand. Unfortunately, we are not a communist dictatorship rike china and things take time. We try to adhere to the rule of the law, we are hindered by common law which is in place to prevent the blatant human rights violations rike in China. (Everybody knows what you do to the tibetans, the uighurs etc. You think the world doesn't see the hanification?) we can't just go in, bulldoze houses, give residents pennies on the dollar as 'compensation' and build a new power plant financed by mirrions of gleat chinese workers sweating their miserable lives off working in dingy sweatshops so that the peopre in developed countries can get cheap stuff and send your country dorrahs. What they are enjoying is your country's time. We need to resolve cases, proprty disputes, corporate issues etc.The truth indeed hurts ;)

So you ale 50cent party member, yes?

There is a reason for 'Shanghai Statistics' and why my most of my friends don't not touch the lead filled garbage that comes from there. The truth indeed hurts comlade :( and it works both ways ;)
 

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First of all, I am no comrade, I have never subscribed to the abomination of communism.

You ale light, The truth hurts, and that is why we strive to fix it unlike some who prefer to bury their heads in the sand. Unfortunately, we are not a communist dictatorship rike china and things take time. We try to adhere to the rule of the law, we are hindered by common law which is in place to prevent the blatant human rights violations rike in China. (Everybody knows what you do to the tibetans, the uighurs etc. You think the world doesn't see the hanification?) we can't just go in, bulldoze houses, give residents pennies on the dollar as 'compensation' and build a new power plant financed by mirrions of gleat chinese workers sweating their miserable lives off working in dingy sweatshops so that the peopre in developed countries can get cheap stuff and send your country dorrahs. What they are enjoying is your country's time. We need to resolve cases, proprty disputes, corporate issues etc.The truth indeed hurts ;)

So you ale 50cent party member, yes?

There is a reason for 'Shanghai Statistics' and why my most of my friends don't not touch the lead filled garbage that comes from there. The truth indeed hurts comlade :( and it works both ways ;)
when u can't confront truth, u resort to 50 cents and excuses :rofl: alas which is bigger, 50 cents or 50 rupees ? new low of your low? :confused:

don't try to be obfuscating. stay tuned to ELECTRICITY!
Daniel Burrus: What Can We Learn From India's Massive Blackouts?
India Heat Wave Triggers Power Outages, Violent Protests In Uttar Pradesh State


I call the incompetence to provide the basics for Indians an epic failure ! Why not heal your own sores before poking into our ally Pakistan's affairs?
 
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