Don't we get it?

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  1. Capricorn

    Capricorn Regular Member

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    India & Pak have been at loggerheads since 47. The reason is not the partition but the ham handed it way it was conducted by the departing British.

    Four generations have been at it since 47 yet we stand at the same place.

    We cut our expenses to buy weapons . At the cost of creating jobs for our own we create & secure jobs in the West, in China, in N Korea, Israel and so on.

    Pak choses to cherry pick the region of Kashmir. There is no instance of a region of an erstwhile Princely state going to one nation & the rest to another. This shall never happen.

    It has to all of J&K or nothing. Obviously all of J&K is not an option to Pak.

    The UN resolution is little else than an advisory & cannot be enforced.

    Water is at the root of the Pak love for Kashmir, after all almost every drop of water in Pak flows from Kashmiri rivers.

    The IWT has held since 1960 , even through wars . There is no reason for Pak to feel insecure on this, surely India can guarantee this also provided Pak can build up the courage to accept realities & see the futility of its chosen path. Even the loss of half its nation has not jolted Pak to deviate from its suicidal path.

    Nukes when held by both adversaries matter little, neither do their numbers. In any case those who wield power seldom flaunt it. Pak need to stop prefixing ' nuclear' to references to itself.

    The world has moved on, we remain where we were 68 years ago.

    Don't we get it ?
     
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  3. Capricorn

    Capricorn Regular Member

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    Sakal Gharelu Ustad Detests Jholawalas Moderator

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    The reason is religion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Capricorn Regular Member

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    The same religion is in Oudh , Bhopal, Hyderabad too.

    Its water .
     
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    Srinivas_K Senior Member Senior Member

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    It is more than water, it is religious ideology and intolerance !
     
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    Sakal Gharelu Ustad Detests Jholawalas Moderator

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    And a pain everywhere!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    It's wrong to blame British for the mess we are in. British couldn't have stopped us getting back POK if Nehru never moved to UN before talking back entire POK.

    If we have had will to kill then we would have done much more damage in 1965 to Pakistan like we did in 1971. If we had balls to stop Pakistan we could have stopped it from creating nukes as we knew it right from beginning. Israel did it in case of Iraq and no body could stop them.

    A country with a billion+ population can not produce a decent rifle for it's army, it's not west or Russia's fault.

    It's time we stop blaming others for our mistakes.
     
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  9. Mad Indian

    Mad Indian Proud Bigot Veteran Member Senior Member

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    I don't know when the Indians are going to stop blaming Britshits for every problem under the sun. :tsk:
     
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  10. A chauhan

    A chauhan "अहिंसा परमो धर्मः धर्म हिंसा तथैव च: l" Senior Member

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    Since the times Muslims first came to India whether in the Malabar coast or Muhammad Bin Qasim in Pakistan, Hindus and Muslims are constantly fighting, Hindus for self governance, Muslims for Jihad/Religious expansionism/Wealth. If you read the history carefully you will find that the period when British ruled India (about 100 to 200 years) is considered a longest "Harmony Period", but IMO it was just a status-quo, the riots and the demand of partition just when the British were leaving, 4 wars with Pakistan and 1000s of religious riots are some proofs of that !!

    There are some basic disputes between Hindus and Muslims mostly religious, which are responsible for the partition.

    Under majority of Indian Hindus.
     
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    I_PLAY_BAD Regular Member

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    Only Indus river emanates from Jammu. Sutlej, Beas and Jhelum emanate from Himachal.
    So I don't think it is water which is the real reason. It is ego and pride. Kashmir is seen as a symbol of power and status by both the countries. In addition, Pakistan brings in a religious angle to the issue.
     
  12. Simple_Guy

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    Indus (Sindhu) flows through Ladakh not Jammu and not Kashmir
    Jhelum (Vitasta) flows through Kashmir not Himachal
    Chenab (Chandrabhaga) flows through Jammu
    Ravi, Beas, Sutlej flow through Himachal

    Anyway if the IWT is holding it is only because of Indian largess. If any Porkland river had been flowing into India they would have thought of every possible way to use it as a weapon against us.

    They hate us to the core. Mainly due to religion but also early western support.
     
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    That is the only reason which differentiates us from them.
     
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    Hundreds of years ago European Catholics fought Protestants, who fought Orthodox. Now they live in peace in EU. Evolution is the word for your disputes with Pakistan. You just sit in a lower branch in the big tree of evolution. Europe sits on the top. You are stupid enough to vote for leaders who fuel this confrontation instead of building new. That is the great thing about democracy: every country sits in it´s rightful place.
     
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    I_PLAY_BAD Regular Member

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    Stop speaking with your a$$. It stinks.

    What you said is bull shit. India seeks peaceful resolution with Pakistan.
    We can pummel them but we have chose not to do it.
    Pakistan is the aggressor and still threatens India with their non-functional nukes.

    Going by your logic you advise every one to suck their enemy's ......
    I know Europeans sucked each others. Don't ask Asians to do the same.
    Europe is a filthy society with no culture. So it is easy for you to suck anyone's in no time. You will always keep your mouth wide open so that someone can come put theirs in it. And you call that living peacefully ? Ridiculous isn't it ? Don't ask us to do the same. We would die rather than sucking.

    @rock127 @LETHALFORCE @pmaitra @sob @FRYCRY @Mad Indian @Blackwater @sorcerer @Srinivas_K @tarunraju @tharikiran

    Check this a$$ hole....
     
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    Pakistan was formed because they believe that hindu and muslim can't live together (2 nation theory), there creation itself involves discrimination.
     
  17. sorcerer

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    Conflicts inside india is not a regular feature tho pakistan is trying hard for it. Pakistan is not just our problem..its a problem of Europe too... Remember the Paki terrorists and other offenders caught from Europe...or are you trying to stupid enough to support a terrorist nation like Pakistan in open.

    Europe sits on top of a future messup..so lets wait and watch.

    As if Europe is not having fight with its neighbor Russia and everything is awesome there. The greatness of democracy is what your western propaganda experts tried to install iin Greece, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria etc but you failed.


    Nobody want to evolve like Europeans who has lost their backbone as they evolved.
    GROW BALLS is the word for you European nations.
     
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  18. Capricorn

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    Chenab flows through Akhnoor and not Jammu.
     
  19. rock127

    rock127 Maulana Rockullah Senior Member

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    Listen Terrorist/Rape/Paki supporter... after reading so much of your shitty posts everywhere you are either some Ultra Lefturd or simply Muslim convert immigrant, the way you have shown extraordinary love for Terrorism/Rapes/Pakis and genocide done by Muslims and laugh at millions of non-Muslims killed by Muslims all over the world.Your CRY DRAMA for 1 Muslim Syrian kid was unique.Even Arabs didn't shed a tear for that kid and refused their own Muslim Ummah Chummah Refugees.

    Your knowledge level is the lowest and each of your post proves it.It's a shame that you are using a country flag which is so called 1st world since you have definitely very LOW IQ and regressive in whole thought process.

    A so called "Finn" having such blind love for Muslims/Rapes/Pakis is really questionable.Also YOU don't sound like a White native either since you came here. Now you are telling us that we have to settle disputes by "evolution"? Do you even know what it means? Your thought process belongs to 7th century Islamic brutes and it's actually YOU who needs evolution.Europe doesn't sits on top with regressive idiots like you who fully support Rapes by Muslims.

    Your eye candy Terrorist State aka Pakistan is the problem child of the world whereas India historically is known for it's "Spirituality and Peace" since ages when you 1st world countries were roaming naked eating raw animals and also each other. :lol:

    We had 4 decade old border issues with "Muslim" Bangladesh but this Govt(Hindu BJP) settled it in a dramatic and peaceful manner.The credit also goes to patience of Bangladesh that they waited for the right moment(Hindu BJP in power) and coordinated with BJP and didn't start terrorism like Pakistan. This Hindu BJP also enabled the biggest company of India Reliance to invest Billions in "Muslim" Bangladesh for Electricity projects so they can prosper.Our PM MODI is now a known guy all over the world which never happened ever.He has made even better relations with Muslim nations specially UAE and new 1-to-1 relations with all of it's neighbors since Pakistan blotted SAARC.

    So India voted for BJP who is doing what the so called "Secular" govt could not.How come you are so irritated by BJP? You Paki/Nazi lover got no right to tell us who to vote.

    Ironically it seems like YOU pussy Europeans(Refugee lovers specially) needs BJP before these Refugee rape all the European women and produce some mutant Jihadis.Your pussy PM and the LefNazi Merkel is gonna turn your 1st world Europe into Middle-East within 1 generation and Europeans might have to relocate perhaps to India/Japan/Russia/China.

    We would welcome White European Refugees.
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  20. Srinivas_K

    Srinivas_K Senior Member Senior Member

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    Please take some Islamic refuges and give a town in your country and get ready for Jihad and cultural invasion in 15 years.
    West is at fault in creating chaos in middle east. It started after 9/11 and in just 15 years for them, Western nations created chaos in almost all Islamic countries in the name of terrorism.

    You have no idea about the beliefs and Radical Jihadists. For them it is a shame to let Kafer India with out conquering.
    India and Pakistan are not like Finland and Russia. Pakistan is a different case, surrendering their Jihad against India is like a defeat and death for them.
     
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  21. hit&run

    hit&run Elite Member Elite Member

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    He is a Paki from the word go. Never wasted my time on him.
     
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