Delhi scales down US war games

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  1. Neil

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    Air force request to join exercise with American navy turned down

    New Delhi, April 28: The Centre recently turned down an air force request to participate in the war games with the US navy in the Bay of Bengal that concluded last week.

    The seven-day Malabar 2012 exercise involved the American and Indian navies.

    The Centre’s move followed a quiet policy decision in the defence ministry to scale down — but not stop — the friendly military engagements with the US armed forces, which have gathered pace and increased in complexity over the past decade.

    The defence ministry is wary of the “hype” that the US builds around joint military exercises with India.

    Among the most important of the war games that the Indian and US forces conduct is the Malabar series involving the two navies. An air force component is integral to the exercises because the US deploys a carrier battle group.

    The Malabar exercise in 2007 in the Bay of Bengal involved the armed forces of five countries and was easily the largest international war games that India has hosted. The exercise involved three aircraft carriers and the Indian Air Force (IAF).

    That drill irritated the Chinese so much that Beijing asked New Delhi if it was forging a military alliance against it.

    For this year’s Malabar exercise, based out of Chennai, the US deployed the Carrier Strike Group-1 with the Nimitz-class carrier USS Carl Vinson in the lead. The US also deployed a Los Angeles-class nuclear submarine.

    When the IAF asked to be part of the exercise, the ministry turned down the request. While it was reworking its proposal, air headquarters communicated its desire to naval headquarters.

    The navy was of the view that involving the air force would require a change in the “Con Ops” (concept of operations).

    The air force wanted to deploy its Shamsher (Jaguar) fighter-bombers that are assigned to the maritime strike role. The IAF’s Maritime Air Operations are headquartered in its southern command.

    After the navy told the IAF that it was too late to change the “Con Ops”, the air force wanted a separate exercise with the US navy, the second-largest air force in the world. The USS Carl Vinson alone carries 85 aircraft in its hangars and flight deck.

    The highlight of the seven-day Malabar 2012 in the absence of complex maritime-aerial drills was the refuelling in high sea of the USS Carl Vinson by the Indian Navy’s new Italy-built feeder vessel, the INS Shakti. India also deployed the INS Satpura, the indigenously built stealth frigate commissioned earlier this year.

    The Carrier Strike Group-1 included, apart from the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson, the Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser USS Bunker Hill and the Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Halsey (DDG 97).

    It also deployed the Military Sealift Command fast combat support ship, the USNS Bridge. The Indian assets included the frigate INS Satpura, destroyers INS Ranvir and INS Ranvijay (D55), and the corvette INS Kulish along with the replenishment oiler INS Shakti.

    The exercise took place in approximately 450 nautical miles of sea and air space. The INS Satpura led one group and the USS Bunker Hill another.


    :: Bharat-Rakshak.com - Indian Military News Headlines ::

    :( would have been nice too see F18 against su30...!!
     
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  3. hit&run

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    MoD chickens.

    I wonder if they even know the ABC of defence. The excuse is ''Hype'' !
     
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    This GoI is hell bend and dont know when they will break :(

    It's in our interest we host more such events and gain experience why are the running out ? An exit plan to what national security ?

    One side they give 100 of Naxels to save 1 life who cares about the life of 2 guards died that day in process of protecting him any one cared and what about 100's of guards life lost in process of capturing those naxels who are now been released ?

    Fu(|< agni and other weapons we cant even deal with an enemy with guns.
     
  5. Predator

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    last few years we are having too many exercises with american military. what is the plan? are we going to invade dark side of moon and take out those alien moon bases :rofl: when project bluebeam is activated
     
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    This article's title is wrong there is no scale down airforce was rejected to join.stop
    Pleasing the commies.
     
  7. agentperry

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    well mirage grounded, jags getting upgraded and migs surely not a show off material. IAF have nothing to fly along american f/a-18s.
     
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  9. Neil

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    what about su30...?? would have been nice to see how they perform air to ground missions and anti ship roles especially since 2 squads are already deployed for such missions in pune....anyways according to idrw...::

    The IAF wanted to deploy the maritime attack squadron of its Jaguar aircraft for the exercise and test them in an exercise with the US Navy aircraft on board the USS Carl Vinson nuclear-powered aircraft carrier
     
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  10. Ray

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    China haunt the North Block?
     
  11. Adux

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    Brigadier,


    That is a bullshit story, fact of the matter is quite clear when you read the whole story. The Air Force wanted to join in, the Navy had already made their plans for the exercise by then, and it was too late according to them to change. So when the Navy refused, Indian Air Force went to the Government, I am sure any sane government isnt going to entertain the Air Force in this matter at this juncture of a exercise and go against the primary organizer of the exercise, that is the Indian Navy. Who might have already communicated this to the USN. It is not going to make a last minute hassle of things.

    Unlike the Airforce , the Indian Navy is much more planned, effective and professional organization.

    The Indian Air Force should have thought about the matter before and made their plans known prior.

    This is not India slashing down its engagement with the United States, rather it not allowing inter service rivalry any credence and standing by what is right, in this case the Indian Navy.
     
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    About time a sensible post was posted.
     
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    Informative post for me..........
     

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