Defence forces to induct 1,000 helicopters by 2020

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India flies second high altitude Light Combat Helicopter prototype
Published July 26, 2011
SOURCE: IANS



India has successfully test-flown the second prototype of its indigenous high altitude Light Combat Helicopter (LCH).
Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) Chairman and Managing Director Ashok Nayak told India Strategic defence magazine in interviews at the Paris Air Show and in New Delhi that the second aircraft was a "considerable improvement" over the first prototype as HAL and Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) scientists had been able to achieve substantial weight reduction.
"Not only that, the human and weapons payload capacity of the rotorcraft had already been exceeded than the parameters mandated by the Indian Air Force (IAF)."

Although a derivative of the advanced light helicopter (ALH) Dhruv, theL CH has been re-designed and reconfigured from the beginning to operate at the Himalayan heights of 20,000 feet. It carries two pilots, one as a weapons operator, in tandem seating. The helicopter is powered by the same Shakti engine that is used by the ALH.

The first helicopter was flown last year, for 20 minutes in the first flight, and the second June 2011-end. The combined hours that the two helicopters, prototype-1 and prototype-2, have done by now are 76.

Nayak said the second prototype was flown to a height of 10,000 feet with an all-up weight (AUW) of 4,900 kgs. The parametres successfully tested by HAL test pilots included general handling, slow speed handling, basic automatic flight control system (AFCS) checks and 60 degree bank turns.

Images of the helicopter in flight, with digitally designed camouflage paint, have been made available to India Strategic. Later, radar absorbent coating to increase its stealth features would also be added.

After the basic tests are conducted and all parameters established, the helicopter would progressively be taken to higher altitudes like Leh, Kargil and Siachin as also in the deserts of Rajasthan.

A few more prototypes and several more tests are scheduled before the LCH gets into the production line and becomes operational in about five years. The initial operational clearance (IOC) is however targeted to be achieved in 2013, Nayak said, adding that theIAF is actively involved in all stages of the aircraft testing and system approvals.

The IAF has a highly reputed Aircraft and Systems Testing Establishment (ASTE) in Bangalore which checks and approves all kinds of aircraft. Test pilots constitute the creme-de-la-creme of any air force, and these daredevils take even the new machines to their extremes before they are put into routine flying operations.

Nayak said that the desired weight of the LCH is 5.5 tonnes. Besides the two pilots, it will have a glass cockpit, gun and rocket pods, air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles to attack and destroy hostile positions high in the mountains like the ones set up intruding Pakistani troops during the 1999 Kargil War.

Suitable applications as are found possible during the testing would be carried out to boost the lethality and survivability of the aircraft.

At present, the IAF deploys the Soviet vintage Mi-35 combat helicopters. These are being replaced with 22 newer combat helicopters, and the IAF is just about to announce its choice from two contestants, an up-rated Russian Mi-35 and the US Boeing Apache AH 64D with a new generation combat radar.

The winner is likely to be the one which, first, qualifies in the Air Staff Qualitative Requirements (ASQR) tests, and second, if both go through that, then the lower bidder in terms of initial price, operating costs and life cycle costs over 40 years.

As for operations in 20,000 feet terrain, although some helicopters built by leading foreign companies reach those heights, they are not designed to operate from there as nowhere in the world are there high altitude battlegrounds like Siachin, where helicopters are the lifeline to support the troops against foreign intrusions and attacks.

The LCH requirement is unique for India, and the IAF accordingly had projected a need for several combat helicopter squadrons to operate from the Himalayan bases. The initial requirement was given as 66 in 2006 but the numbers could well touch 100 once the production line is going in about five years.

Notably, for high altitude operations, a substantial chunk of any aircraft or helicopter has to be made of composite materials and metals like titanium to withstand exposure to extreme temperatures and environment. This makes the machine expensive but enables it operate, and that also with higher payloads from high altitude bases.
 
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Copter hunt gets hotter
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Copter hunt gets hotter - Race between US & Russian choppers as army, IAF weigh options
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New Delhi, Aug. 14: The army and the air force
are now totting up the scores in a competition
between American and Russian helicopter
gunships, one of which will replace the attack
copters in the Indian armed forces.
The attack helicopter fleet, currently made up of
ageing Soviet-origin Mi 25s and Mi 35s, is in the
custody of the IAF but is meant to support land
operations of the army.
The IAF will initially procure 22 attack copters —
either the Boeing-made AH64 D Apache
Longbow or the Mil Mi 28 (Havoc) — with the
option of expanding the order to 40. The contract
for the helicopters, minus the weapons and the
ammunition, is expected to be upwards of $550
million.
The trials of the helicopters were held in Ladakh
and Rajasthan and also in the US and Russia.
Defence ministry sources said the IAF's
recommendation was being processed and a
decision could be taken by the end of the month.
The twin-engine, twin-cockpit Mi 28 has a single
under-nose gun and rocket pods attached to
short wings. The Boeing AH64 D Apache is a
four-blade, twin-engine attack helicopter that fires
Hellfire missiles and has a tandem cockpit for
two. Both the helicopters are heavily armoured
for close combat.
Though the attack helicopter is at the combat
edge of the armed forces, the bigger contract
would be for 197 light-utility helicopters for both
the army and the air force. The order may be
expanded for 310 helicopters in this category.
This would make up the bulk of the Army
Aviation Corps' helicopter fleet — which in any
case is larger than the air force's. The Eurocopter
AS 550 Fennec and the Russian Kamov Ka 226
helicopters are competing for the order. Trials for
these, too, have been completed.
The helicopters in this category are meant for
surveillance and observation but may also be
armed for combat. They will replace the Cheetahs
and Chetaks, which are of 1960s and 1970s
vintage.
Defence minister A.K. Antony cancelled the
competition in this category in 2008 after
allegations that Eurocopter had not fielded the
military version of the helicopter in the trials. At
the time, Bell had also competed but it did not re-
bid for the order.
The AS 550 Fennec is a single-engine machine
that its makers claim has performed at such
heights that it will have no problem in flying in the
Siachen glacier. Its competitor, the Ka 226, is
twin-engined with contra-rotating rotors (two
pairs of rotors one above the other, one rotating
clockwise and the other counter-clockwise) and
the Russians claim this makes it safer and more
stable.
The IAF is also expecting to sign a contract this
year to acquire heavy-lift helicopters for which
Boeing's CH-47 Chinook and the Russian Mil Mi 26
T2 are competing. The Russian Mi 26's claim to
fame is that it can lift the Chinook. But an older
version of the Mi 26 is in the IAF's inventory — it
has three of them — but a chronic shortage of
spares has made it difficult to operate the
machines.
Last week, suspected Taliban shot down a
Chinook carrying US special forces, including 20
SEALs who were involved in the raid on
Abbottabad that killed Osama bin Laden. The
Chinook is used by the US forces extensively in
Iraq and Afghanistan.
The IAF is looking to buy 15 heavy-lift helicopters
chiefly to ferry the BAe Land Systems M777 ultra-
light howitzers, which the army has nearly
finalised with the US, to high-altitude posts on the
frontier with China.
Army and air force officers complain that all these
procurements are long overdue and decisions
have been put off either because of single-vendor
situations or on the suspicion of corruption. The
moves to acquire the helicopters were first
initiated about seven years ago.
The only major helicopter-procurement — apart
from the Hindustan Aeronautics-made Advanced
Light Helicopter Dhruv — that the government
has concluded has been for 12 Agusta Westland
AW 101 machines for VVIP transport.
 

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Russia's Ka-52 Alligator Scout-Attack Helicopters

Sep 12, 2011 13:13 EDT


When "Russia Commits to Multi-Year Buy of 67 Mi-28 Attack Helicopters" was published in July 2006, it appeared that the Mil design bureau's Mi-28 (NATO code: Havoc) had eclipsed Kamov's more radical Ka-50 (NATO code: Hokum) as Russia's future attack helicopter. A critical loss in Turkey's attack helicopter competition, and conflicting promises concerning the Kamov machine's future in Russia, left the platform's very future in doubt. Russia's 2005 defense budget, for instance, was supposed to include 12 Ka-50 helicopters – until that funding was cut.

Fortunately for the VVS, growing Russian natural resource revenues, and the accompanying growth in Russian defense budgets, are creating new options. So, too, is a major investment in modernizing its manufacturers, which has put the Ka-52 into production"¦

http://http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/
 
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India To Purchase Over 1000 Helicopter by End of This Decade

Indian defense forces will purchase around 1,000 helicopters under multibillion dollar deals by the end of this decade. India wants to buy around 450 Light Utility helicopters to replace the the French-origin Chetak and Cheetah helicopters from the Indian air force, Indian army and Indian navy.

India will purchase Contract for this will be signed by the end of this year. Earlier deal with Eurocopter for Light Utility Helicopters (LUHs) was terminated in December 2007 by the Indian Defence Ministry.

Indian Army will get 135 Light Utility Helicopters from total of 197 Light Utility Helicopters and rest will be purchased for the Indian Air Force. Indian aircraft manufacture Hindustan Aeronautics Limited is also developing a similar helicopter and it is likely to get order for the remaining requirement of Light Utility Helicopters.

Indian Navy also wants to purchase Light Utility Helicopters (LUHs) to replace its Chetak helicopters which were inducted three decades ago.

Indian Navy is looking for Twin Engine Helicopters which can provide added survivability to the crew in maritime zone. Indian Navy will use these Helicopters both for shore-based and offshore operations.

India also hopes to purchase 12 helicopters for the VVIP use to transport head of state and ministers.

On the anti armor and close support front India is looking to purchase 22 heavy gunship helicopters to be used along with the Russian Mi-35 and Mi-25 gunship helicopters. For this deal US is offering latest version of its AH-64D Apache frontline attack helicopter and Russians have offered their latest Mi-28 gunship helicopter.

Hindustan Aeronautics Limited is also developing Light Combat Helicopter (LCH) for the lower tier requirement of gunship helicopter. It is estimated that India will purchase around 200 of these LCH once the development is complete to meet the requirements of the Indian air force and Indian army.

Indian will soon start the induction of 139 Mi-17 military transport helicopters and process will complete within two to three years. First 80 Mi-17 military transport helicopters will be used to expand the current fleet and remaining will be used as a replacements for the aged helicopters which needs to be phased out in the near future.

India is also looking to replace its Russian produce Mi-26 Heavy military Transport Helicopters by purchasing 15 Heavy military Transport Helicopters. For this tender Russians are offering the new version of the world's most capable and proven Mi-26 Heavy Military Transport Helicopters and US is offering its Twin Rotor Chinook CH-47D Heavy Military Transport Helicopter.

In next couple of months, Indian Navy will start the competition to purchase 16 Multirole Helicopters (MRF). USA is offering its Sikorsky-70B helicopters to the Indian navy and it will compete with the European NH-90 helicopters for the contract.



India To Purchase Over 1000 Helicopter by End of This Decade ~ Bharat Military Review
 

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well for IAF i would like them to have KA50 black shark hell of attack helicopter ( t features Kamov's characteristic contra-rotating co-axial rotor system, which removes the need for the entire tail-rotor assembly and improves the aircraft's aerobatic qualities - it can perform loops, rolls, and "the funnel" (circle-strafing) where the aircraft maintains a line-of-sight to the target while flying circles of varying altitude, elevation, and airspeed around it. Using two rotors means that a smaller rotor with slower-moving rotor tips can be used compared to a single rotor design. Since the speed of the advancing rotor tip is a primary limitation to the maximum speed of a helicopter, this allows a faster maximum speed than helicopters such as the AH-64. The elimination of the tail rotor is a qualitative advantage because the torque-countering tail rotor can use up to 30% of engine power. Furthermore, the vulnerable boom and rear gearbox are fairly common causes of helicopter losses in combat; the Black Shark's entire transmission presents a comparatively small target to ground fire. Kamov maintains that the co-axial drive assembly is built to survive hits from 23 mm ammunition like the other vital parts of the helicopter.[citation needed] The zero native torque also allows the aircraft to be fairly immune to wind strength and direction, and to have an unsurpassed turn rate in all travel speed envelopes.) also for indian army i would like them to buy Mi 35 for simple reason because it also carry troop and as well as support army on the ground heavy lift capability nothing can beat the Mi 26 halo it can carry armoued personal carrier think of that plus once when a USAF chinook was shot down it fuselage of the chinnok was carried inside of mi 26 halo beast of a machine for recon purpose we need to refine the engine of our very own dhruv

The Erdogan beat the Eurocopter Tiger, AH-64 Apache and A-129 Mangusta helicopters, confirmed by israelis

by that is KA 50-2
We should opt for the Apache AH-60 rather than the KA-50 because the build quality of the Longbow is better than that of the KA-50. US is supplying India with the latest variant with fancy avionics which is an area where sadly Russia loses badly. Apache has a much better armament and armor than the russian copter.
 

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Indian navy went for P8I rather than P3C orion...
Indian Airforce is going for C17 instead of going for next generation transport plane.. that too in bigway. we may be operating these many years..
is it good move for going in for quicker induction than investing in future ?
India IS going to adopt the next generation transport and air-tanker aircraft being developed. However it is still in the design stages, so we need a medium role carrier for this stage. Once it goes into production, the C-130s will be assigned only for the Special Service Forces. The aircraft in development fits the medium transport category, it was never intended to replace C17s.
 

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C-17 and C-130 purchases were stopgaps because Russian production of IL-476, An-124 and MTA have yet to begin. Russia is currently not producing any transport planes.
 

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With the flourishing Japan-India relationship, the IAF can have a good look at this Japanese beauty for medium airlifting:

Kawasaki C-2


It has better specs than the A400M and almost mature. The price however may be a little bit higher, but India can help bring it down by ordering more.
 

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With the flourishing Japan-India relationship, the IAF can have a good look at this Japanese beauty for medium airlifting:

Kawasaki C-2

It has better specs than the A400M and almost mature. The price however may be a little bit higher, but India can help bring it down by ordering more.
It has worse specs than the A400M. It only carries 12t at 6500km while the A400M carries 20t.
 

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With the flourishing Japan-India relationship, the IAF can have a good look at this Japanese beauty for medium airlifting:

Kawasaki C-2


It has better specs than the A400M and almost mature. The price however may be a little bit higher, but India can help bring it down by ordering more.
Can the japanese do anything without the nod of usa ? why would usa allow them to eat into there market share ?
 

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With the flourishing Japan-India relationship, the IAF can have a good look at this Japanese beauty for medium airlifting:

Kawasaki C-2


It has better specs than the A400M and almost mature. The price however may be a little bit higher, but India can help bring it down by ordering more.
looks good, I believe purchasing weapons from japan is the best option.Given that japanese currency value is lower than India's. maybe we can get these equipments for much more lower prices and we all know the quality of japanese products. It would be a perfect partnership
 

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India's 197 Helicopter Procurement Update

Our Bureau
Thu, May 3, 2012 11:41 CET

Indian Defense Minister AK Antony has announced that the procurement of 197 Reconnaissance and Surveillance Helicopters (RSHs) on Buy Global basis and 187 Light Utility Helicopters (LUHs) is "on progress".


However, the fact remains that the procurement has been delayed well past the intended 2 year time frame which ended in December 2011.

Antony informed the Parliament on the progress of the helicopter procurement saying that the 'finance department has not raised objections regarding the trial process for selection'.

The Eurocopter AS 350 Fennec is competing with Russian Kamov 226 'Sergei' for supplying these choppers to the Indian Army and Air Force in a project expected to be worth over $1.5 billion.

The RFP to replace India's aging Cheetah and Chetak helicopters was issued in July 2008, the trials for the competition ended in mid 2011. The Ministry of Defense has delayed the announcing the winners, which was expected last October.

Earlier this year, expressing its frustration in delays, Eurocopter wrote a letter to the Army Chief, General V K Singh, saying, "The technical evaluation process has now taken over 38 months and has not yet been concluded due to reasons which are unknown to us".

IndiaÂ’s 197 Helicopter Procurement Update : Defense news
 

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Italy set to ask India help in Finmeccanica probe-sources

NAPLES | Fri May 4, 2012 12:00pm EDT

Italy May 4 (Reuters) - Italian magistrates investigating alleged corruption in an Indian helicopter order won by Finmeccanica two years ago are set to ask India for help, judicial sources said on Friday.

The probe is looking into allegations that payments were made to secure a 560 million-euro ($737 million) deal with India's Air Force.

The Naples prosecutors want to ask Indian authorities to hand over documents in order to check the allegations, the sources said.

The contract was announced in March 2010 and refers to 12 AW101 AgustaWestland helicopters that will be used to transport Indian government officials.

The probe has also engulfed Finmeccanica's chairman and chief executive Giuseppe Orsi.

Finmeccanica and Orsi have strongly denied any wrongdoing. ($1=0.7603 euros)
(Reporting By Laura Viggiano; Editing by Greg Mahlich)

Italy set to ask India help in Finmeccanica probe-sources | Reuters
 

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Despite 'Malpractice' Enquiry; India's AW101 Helicopter Procurement On Schedule.

Our Bureau
Wed, May 9, 2012 12:25 CET

Indian Defense Minister A K Antony today said that the delivery of AW-101 helicopters for VIP use from AugustaWestland is on schedule.


The announcement comes as a surprise since the Minister only last month ordered an inquiry into the alleged 'malpractices' involving the deal.

While addressing the Indian Parliament, Antony said that the delivery of the helicopters will begin in November 2012 keeping within the original schedule.

In 2010, Augusta Westland was awarded a Euro 556 million contract for the supply of 12 AW- 101 helicopters. According to media reports, Italy is investigating the allegations that Augusta Westland reportedly paid a Swiss-based consultant over INR 350 crore (EUR 67 million) to sell the choppers to India.

So far, Antony has twice requested a report on the allegations surrounding Finmeccanica, the parent company of AgustaWestland, with the first request issued in February and the second in April.

The Indian Embassy in Rome reported to the MoD that Italian authorities had begun preliminary investigations on allegations of financial malpractices occurring within Finmeccanica and its subsidiaries in general.

Recently, the Minister told the Indian Parliament that there would be no probe in Italy regarding the AW-101 deal.

The delivery of the helicopter will replace the ageing Mi-8 helicopters of the Air Headquarters Communication Squadron.

Despite ‘Malpractice’ Enquiry; India’s AW101 Helicopter Procurement On Schedule : Defense news
 

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NHI Industries Reiterates Concerns over Sikorsky S-70B in Indian Multi Role Helicopter Tender .

Our Bureau
Wed, May 16, 2012

NHI Industries, the manufacturer of the NH90 helicopter has reiterated its concerns over the performance of its rival Sikorsky S70B in trails for the Indian Navy's Multi Role Helicopter tender. In a letter to Defence Minister A.K. Antony, the NHI Managing Director, B.Vaccari has sought to provide 'additional information' to support its earlier communication to the MoD.

NHI Industries lists out 10 instances where the S70B could not have met the Naval Staff Quality Requirements (NSQRs). These include requirements for internal/external tanks, fuel reserve, sonar, health and usage monitoring system, deck lock and technical literature. The letter quotes the S70B technical manuals to emphasize that the trial performance of its rival could have been at variance with the NSQRs.

In addition, NHI Industries claims it has taken the necessary permission form European governments to provide technical documentation to the Indian Navy so that future certification requirements can be met by Indian certification agencies. It speculates that since the S70B is an American built helicopter, getting the documentation would run afoul of the U.S. export control restrictions.

Meanwhile, Sikorsky appears upbeat about its prospects in the $ 1 billion tender. A Sikorsky executive has been quoted as saying in the Indian media that its helicopter could be the L1 (lowest bidder) in the Indian naval tender and that it was awaiting the outcome of the field evaluation trials (FET) held late last year. Sikorsky has tied up with the Tata business group of India and expect to set up an helicopter assembly plant in India for defence helicopters should it win the Navy tender.

A section of the Indian media had earlier reported quoting "Navy sources" that both the NH90 and the Sikorsky S70B had cleared the field evaluation trials and that the report had been submitted to the Indian MoD which has to decide on an eventual winner.

In the report, the sources have said that the European manufacturer was trying to cause delays with 'unreasonable queries and concerns'.

NHI Industries sources said that they were trying to bring the 'true picture' to the notice of Indian decision-makers. "The NH90 helicopter is the only fifth generation, fly-by-wire helicopter In military service today and it has been specifically designed to operate effectively in a modern threat environment", the sources said.

NHI Industries Reiterates Concerns over Sikorsky S-70B in Indian Multi Role Helicopter Tender : Defense news
 

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Two Boeing Birds.....

Tuesday, July 31, 2012







Checked out Boeing's rotorcraft facility in Mesa, Arizona today (I first visited in 2008). Scoped the AH-64D Block II and Block III lines and the upcoming AH-6 Litte Bird line. Boeing plans to begin briefings on the AH-6i to the Indian Army by the end of this year (by which time they expect to win the IAF attack copter competition with the Apache -- that is still unknown). Impressive little chopper, the AH-6i, but couldn't quite figure where it would fit with the Army's requirements, what with the ongoing reconnaissance and surveillance (RSH) helicopter competition and HAL's Light Utility Helicopter (LUH) effort.

On the Apache, the variant on offer to the IAF is the Block-III. The specimen fielded for three-week trials was a modified Block II with a great deal of Block III parts, including composite rotor, fuel tanks etc. The platform had the performance of a Block III, says Boeing, but without the avionics (the Boeing folks say the only spare they needed to use over those three weeks was an adhesive bond-on trim tab for the composite rotor). Boeing hasn't received word on how many Longbows the IAF is interested in (one in three US Army Apaches is a Longbow).

Am at Long Beach, California now. Tomorrow is the 'major join' ceremony of India's first C-17 where the forward, aft and fuselage sections will come together along with the wing assemblies. Stay tuned for photos and updates on the C-17 programme -- the largest Indo-US defence contract so far.

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