Defence Expenditure list of Major powers (2008)

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  1. badguy2000

    badguy2000 Respected Member Senior Member

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    This figure is not accurate much of the money is returned if it is not spent, but the average is around the same as other countries if you measure it in terms of GDP the defense expenditure is between 2-3% of GDP.
     
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    it is very hard to figure out GDP accurately. however it is very easy to figure out government revenue.

    the ratio of D/R (defence expenditure/ center government revenue) is a much better way to weigh how much attention a country pays to its defence.

    in 2008,USA's CGR( center government Revenue) was 2.61 trilion USD 5 times as much as CHina's 0.52 trillion USD,while its defence expenditure was 12 time more than CHina's.

    in 2008,India's CGR( center government Revenue) was 0.1178 trillion USD, only about 1/5 of China's 0.52 trillion, while its defence expenditure was 50% of China's
     
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    How can we get accurate numbers for what China is reporting?? for years USA has been claiming chinese numbers are not accurate. Government revenues may not be accurate either because there are greedy people in every government who may accidently under report.
     
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    sorry ,the data above should be that as the end of 2009

    I have looked into the data of Chinese government revenue of 2009.

    China's total government revenue was 6.84 trillion RMB(about 1.004 trillion USD)

    Of the 6.84 trillion RMB, 3.5896 trillion RMB was CGR(center government revenue); and the rest were LGR(local government revenue).

    http://www.p5w.net/kuaixun/201002/t2820170.htm
     
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    the data is wrong my friend, and i will do it for the present fiscal:

    The Gross Tax Receipts are estimated at Rs.7,46,651 crore.
    The Non Tax Revenue Receipts are estimated at Rs.1,48,118 crore

    total revenue = Rs 8,94769 crore
    defence budget = 1,47,000 crore

    so as a % of total revenues of the GoI, the defence budget is 16.42%
     
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    did you differentiate total government revenue and center government revenue?

    Totoal government revenue= center government revenue+ local government revenue
     
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    yes my friend, as a matter of fact state governments have their own revenue model, present a separate budget and all this has nothing to do with that of central govt, which has its own revenue model in place and presents a separate budget. now let me quote it for you, and by the way these are projected figures for the upcoming fiscal (april10-march11):

    as i said defence budget to revenue ratio is 16.42%
    and defence budget to the total projected expenditure for next fiscal is 13.25% ( where the total budget of central govt is Rs 11,08,749crore

     
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    Global military spending soars despite crisis: report

    Stockholm: Global military expenditures soared to a record high last year, unscathed by the economic downturn, with the United States accounting for more than half of increase, a think tank said Wednesday.

    In 2009, 1,531 billion dollars (1,244 billion euros) were spent worldwide in the military sector, a 5.9 percent rise from 2008 and a 49 percent jump from 2000, the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) said in its report.

    "Many countries were increasing public spending generally in 2009, as a way of boosting demand to combat the recession," explained Sam Perlo-Freeman, the head of SIPRI's military expenditure project.

    "Although military spending wasn't usually a major part of the economic stimulus packages, it wasn't cut either," he said in a statement.

    The institute said 65 percent of countries for which data was available had hiked their military spending last year.

    The United States remains by far the top military spender, dishing out 661 billion dollars to the industry in 2009, or a whopping 43 percent of the total global military expenditure.

    Washington thus paid 47 billion dollars more than a year earlier and accounted for 54 percent of the global increase, SIPRI said.

    China is believed to be the world's second largest military spender, the institute said, adding that while it did not have access to the official figures from Beijing it estimated the country had spent around 100 billion dollars in the sector last year.

    With its 63.9 billion dollars in military expenditures last year, France came in third place, SIPRI said.

    "The figures also demonstrate that for major or intermediate powers such as the US, China, Russia, India and Brazil, military spending represents a long-term strategic choice which they are willing to make even in hard economic times," Perlo-Freeman said.

    A portion of the 2009 military spending hike can be attributed to a sharp increase in so-called peacekeeping operations, especially in Afghanistan, which also reached record levels last year.

    In all, 54 peacekeeping missions took place around the globe in 2009, costing a record total of 9.1 billion dollars, SIPRI said.

    In terms of deployed personnel, last year was also record-breaking, the institute said: 219,278 people, 89 percent of whom were military personnel, were deployed, up 16 percent from 2008.

    "The increase was due to troop reinforcement for existing peace operations, most significantly for the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan," the report said.

    The United States last year "more than doubled its troop levels in Afghanistan and annual US spending in Afghanistan now exceeds that in Iraq," SIPRI said, pointing out that 65 billion dollars had been proposed for Afghanistan operations in the 2010 budget request, while 61 billion had been set aside for Iraq.

    Most of the military spending in Afghanistan had gone towards "counter-terrorism, counter-narcotics and the strengthening of the Afghan security forces," the institute said.

    The institute however voiced some optimism that the military operations in Afghanistan could soon end, pointing out that "the international community is clearly weary of the struggle."

    "Two NATO members have already unilaterally decided to pull out (and) there is a tangible and growing sense of 'end game' in and around Afghanistan that is likely to intensify over the next 12 months," it said.

    Wednesday's SIPRI report also estimated that there were around 8,100 operational nuclear warheads in the arsenals of the world's eight nuclear-armed states: the United States, Russia, China, Britain, France, India, Pakistan and Israel.

    "Of these, almost 2,000 were kept on high alert and capable of being launched in minutes," the report said.

    http://www.defencetalk.com/global-military-spending-soars-despite-crisis-report-26731/
     
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    Most weapons of PLA are home-made and purchased with RMB. Due to the serious undervalue of RMB, CHina's defence expenditure has much more Purchase power than its exchange rate shows.
     
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    here goes the final figures now that the indian gdp figures are out (all the figures are in Indian National Rupee-INR):

    Indian GDP - Rs62,31,171 Crores(*)
    Budget (palnned and unplanned) - Rs11,08,749 Crores
    Defence Budget - Rs1,47,344 Crores

    Defence Budget as a % of GDP - 2.364%

    Defence Budget as a % of Budget of Central Government - 13.289%

    (*) - 1 crore = 1,00,00,000.
     
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    Really? Because I don't see China buying very much. J-10 production was halted last year waiting on deliveries of Russian engines. J-11B production is suspended indefinitely until WS-10A operates safely. No new AWACs. No new IL-76s. No attack helicopters. No DDGs or LPDs have been built in several years. Haven't seen any hull being laid down for an aircraft carrier. No SSBNs or SSNs in several years. Yuan SSKs seem to be stuck in development. The best tank is hardly being built. See a whole bunch of equipment at the parade but only a handful of regiments have been requipped. For all that money you supposedly spend you aren't getting very much for it.
     
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