Debate on Kashmir in UK parliament causes stir

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  1. Srinivas_K

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    Debate on Kashmir in UK parliament causes stir

    LONDON: Britain's House of Commons will hold a special debate on the state of human rights in Kashmir on Thursday — a move that has seriously irked India.

    Calling the "ongoing Kashmir dispute a threat to regional and global peace", British MP David Ward informed the Backbench Business Committee that new Indian government has been "quite aggressive in terms of its stance towards Kashmir" which was "opening up a whole new area of uncertainty".

    Ward had also informed Committee that he had 40 MPs backing him up through a signatory campaign who would like Westminster to hold a debate on the human rights violations in Kashmir.

    Ward, a Liberal Democrat MP represents Bradford East in the House of Commons. Bradford city has the biggest Pakistani-origin population in Britain.

    Britain's decision to agree for the debate has invited angry reactions from on Kashmir hasn't gone down well with Friends of India and South East Asian think tanks.

    They said, "Why should Kashmir be discussed in the parliament when Britain has always been of the view that Kashmir is a bilateral issue between India and Pakistan?".

    Deputy high commissioner for India in the UK Dr Virander Paul recently said, "From time to time, we find that there are certain tendencies in certain sections of the society, which are not in the interest of our strong relations. We need to watch out and be mindful of any such efforts".

    The debate will not take place in the main chamber of the House of Commons, but in a committee room in Britain's Houses of Parliament. At the same time, its contents will be officially recorded.

    In a note, the Indian High Commission has told British MPs "It is a widely recognised fact and clearly recorded internationally that infiltration of terrorists into Jammu & Kashmir is aided and abetted by Pakistan, including use of cover fire and other military actions on the border. It is necessary that no encouragement should be given to the proponents of terrorism and jihadi elements which are being sent into India to create mayhem".

    Recently in an exclusive interview with TOI, Britain's deputy prime minister Nick Clegg said Britain does not want to be a mediator between India and Pakistan over Kashmir.

    He told TOI, "Kashmir can only be resolved by the two neighbours — India and Pakistan through dialogue. UK does not intend to be a mediator between the two countries".

    Clegg added, "The British parliament is a sovereign institution and is free to debate on any issue it likes. II definitely don't curtain the right to debate. But as far as the government's position on Kashmir is, it remains the same. This is a long-running conflict, and we stand by to help; but ultimately it can be resolved only by the two countries in question".

    Ward recently told the Committee that "Kashmir has been a constant source of misery over many years to many people. In the region of 5,00,000 to 6,00,000 Indian Army troops are in the area on a permanent basis. It is an area of tension and some 5,00,000 people have died there in the past 60 or so years".

    "This is why I think it is an important subject: 3 million members of the Indian/Pakistani community; 1,00,000 Kashmiris in Bradford. The reason why I think it is important now to have a debate of this kind is, first of all, it is three years since we had a debate in the Chamber on this crucially important subject. It is considered by many to be the forgotten conflict. You are talking about two nuclear powers facing each other. We do believe it is worthy of a debate, because of its international dimensions as well".

    Ward said the motion of the petition says, "This House believes that the ongoing Kashmir dispute is a threat to regional and global peace; further that the dispute is causing insecurity, instability and human rights violations; and further that the State of Jammu and Kashmir should be given the right to self-determination".

    Debate on Kashmir in UK parliament causes stir - The Times of India


    No Idea why Britain is debating Kashmir in their Parliament may be colonial hangover or some kind of delusion. Britain is like a subordinate to USA.

    Instead they should worry about corruption, poor governance(which has lead to Scottish independence vote), rise of Islamic terror in their own country.

    Every country has its strategic priorities of national interest which directly impact on National security. Kashmir comes under this category, this place also has Dharmic importance which is inhibited by Hindus, Buddhists for thousands of years.

    Regarding Scottish independence vote Britain does referendum that is Britain's way of doing things, East is East and West is West, Rules of engagement completely changes even though India is a democracy. Indian democracy's way of doing things is different.
     
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  3. Ray

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    It would have been better for the British Parliament to debate what is wrong with Britain that Scotland wants to kick England in the pants.

    A dying nation trying to remain relevant by thinking they are a nation that counts.

    Yes, they count in the jihadis that they are producing as if on the assembly line.

    Let us not worry what a decadent and dying nation, soon to become as large as a postage stamp has to say.

    Maybe what Burkina Faso has to say would be more relevant.
     
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    That should answer your question as to why this MP is so keen to debate this. What you are seeing is basically vote bank politics.
     
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    This MP can fight for Sharia Law in his parliament, Kashmir is not related to him or his country.
     
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    The answer is simple mr ward is MP from Bradford aka mini Pakistan . Vote nahi lene from jahil pakis
     
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    all i see is a bunch of britartds sipping coffee discussing about Kashmir and declared at the end of the day Kashmir is the the problem if not resolved can lead to indo-pak war so the point is is this anything new . the britards should be more concerned about keeping their sorry ass country in one piece. this paki appeasement clownish tactics wont work . yep long time ago that fat churchill bastered said india will break up if the british left now what hope that murderer was alive to see the sorry ass Britain breaking up . i love america for one main thing they fked the britards during their independence so hard now the britards is their lap dog :pound:
     
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    Mr ward ki koi aukat nahi , especially when he supports pakis ,he is a back bencher in parliament. just only to get cheap paki votes he is doing this drama.

    BTW parliament committee where he was barking rejected his motion. He barked for 3 hours .then everybody went home, hope he get motion at home now
     
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    look at this bander,trying hard to get muslims votes
     
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    UK lawmakers being pricks again?

    UK lawmakers being pricks again?

    Ok, so here is a joke, that I borrowed, and modified, after reading this news (reproduced below):

    Question: What is the difference between a porcupine and the British Parliament?
    Answer:
    With the porcupine, the pricks are on the outside.

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    Why am I calling the British lawmakers pricks? Read on:

    India dismisses U.K. lawmakers’ discussion on Kashmir

     
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    Merged with existing thread. Sorry, should have checked whether a thread already exists.
     
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    self delete.

    :yo:
     
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    feels good in matrubhasha rather in english,isnt it.:rofl::laugh::lol:
     
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    Mind it friends this drama has nothing to do with UK govt or their policy or nothing has come in british media TV.

    its just work of few THARKI MPs who have tharak on paki woman try to woo them by this drama
    :p:p
     
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    British Parliament's decision to discuss Kashmir issue condemnable?

    Referendum in J&K:-British Parliament's decision to discuss Kashmir issue condemnable-?

    At a time when J&K has yet not come out from its worst nightmare as flood has devastated everything in the State, ongoing Scotland's referendum process has stirred a debate in strife-torn State.

    -It is being said that the way Scots are being allowed to vote for their Independent nation by UK Parliament, the same way people of the State be given chance to choose their fate. This debate gained momentum after Britain's House of Commons recently had held a debate on this contentious issue which has been a bone of contention between India and Pakistan since 1947. British parliament discussed the issue While discussing about the issue, Liberal Democrat MP David Ward said as quoted by ET, "A final resolution to the Kashmir issue is hugely important to world peace. Until the situation is resolved, the potential still exists for India and Pakistan to go to war".-

    But the way conservative leader Gregory Barker countered this view that gives the real insight about the stalemate. "There is a democratic process in place and around 61 per cent of the population participated in state elections in the region, which sits as part of the world's largest democracy", Barker said.

    -Though, both Congress and BJP slammed this move in unison, Kashmiri separatists got fodder to take up the cudgel against Indian Government.-

    BJP General Secretary Ram Madhav said, "British Parliament's decision to discuss Kashmir issue condemnable. Can we take up Falkland Islands or Scotland issue for discussion in our parliament?".
     
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    A question: Do you guys think Indians are getting too worked up by this? Due to partisan politics a small group of PMs can force a debate on any issue, but it is just that a debate. It's not like the UK has come out with an offensive resolution or statement against India. Maybe India should chill out a little since nothing has actually happened yet.

    Then if the UK actually does do something offensive to India, we can come out with the "what about the rights of the Indian security forces? Kashmiri's violate them when they strap on suicide vests" or make fun jokes at Britain's expense in retaliation.
     
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    Nothing is wrong with Britain today vis-a-vis Scotland that wasn't a problem in 1298.

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