Communal violence in Rakhine, Myanmar

[Ray]

The most pious are those that are most uneducated.

Water finds it way to sink to lower heights to finally escape to the warm embrace of unknown ignorant placidity and peace!

 

[ashdoc]

during mughal times the muslim arakanese were famous as pirates who had exceeded every boundary of cruelty .

they used to vie with each other and compete to see who had committed the most cruel acts . they used to attack the bengal delta in their ships and kidnap bengalis loot people and commit mass murder and rape .

the mughal emperor aurangzeb had to send his uncle shaiste khan to bengal to stop the cruelties . he built a flotilla of boats and fought and stopped the arakanese who had made life a living hell for the people of bengal.

nice to know that the burmese are giving the descendants of these barbarians what they justly deserve :thumb:

 

[Ray]

The relations between Arakan and Chittagong were based on historical, geo-politicaland ethnological considerations. "The Chittagong region was under the Vesalikingdom of Arakan during the 6th to 8th centuries and under the Mrauk U kingdom of Arakan in the 16th and 17th centuries."

Because of the political, cultural and commercial links between those two territories, Arakan used to be called 'extended Chittagong'

The 15th century was a great turning point in the history of Arakan; during this time a large contingent of Muslims entered Arakan from Bengal and they went there by invitation of the ruling princes. The cause was political.

Here the history of Arakan intersects with the history of India and especially with Bengal. An age old intercourse between Bengal and Arakan has left distinctive marks on various aspects of society,culture and administration of both countries. The Muslims were an integral part in the political entity of Arakan. They were rulers, administrators and kingmakers in Arakan for more than 350 years.

Muslim Influence in Arakan

 

[Ray]

The Magh is the term used in Bengal for the Arakanese or Rakhine people of Arakan.

During the 16th and 17th centuries, the kingdom of Arakan expended its territories to the Chittagong area of Bengal. Arakanese navy of the kingdom of Arakan had plundered along the coast of Chittagong; as well as in the rivers of Bengal; and captured many Bengalis and sold them in the slave markets that were run by the Dutch East India Company, VOC in Batavia. For those notorious activities in the past, the Arakanese were called as Magh pirates by the people of Bengal.

Wiki

 

[pmaitra]

Burma unrest: Death sentences in Rakhine murder case

Two men have been sentenced to death in a case that sparked violent clashes between Muslims and Buddhists in Burma, lawyers have told the BBC.

 

[Ray]

Burma unrest: Death sentences in Rakhine murder case

Myanmar is working hard to be acceptable by the international community.

 

[Raj30]

Burma's monks call for Muslim community to be shunned - Asia - World - The Independent
Burma's monks call for Muslim community to be shunned
The Buddhists have reportedly tried to block humanitarian aid getting to ethnic group

Monks who played a vital role in Burma's recent struggle for democracy have been accused of fuelling ethnic tensions in the country by calling on people to shun a Muslim community that has suffered decades of abuse.

In a move that has shocked many observers, some monks' organisations have issued pamphlets telling people not to associate with the Rohingya community, and have blocked humanitarian assistance from reaching them. One leaflet described the Rohingya as "cruel by nature" and claimed it had "plans to exterminate" other ethnic groups.

The outburst against the Rohingya, often described as one of the world's most oppressed groups, comes after weeks of ethnic violence in the Rakhine state in the west of Burma that has left more than 80 dead and up to 100,000 people living in a situation described as "desperate" by humanitarian organisations. As state-sanctioned abuses against the Muslim community continue, Burma's president Thein Sein – credited by the international community for ushering in a series of democratic reforms in the country and releasing political prisoners such as Aung San Suu Kyi – has urged neighbouring Bangladesh to take in the Rohingya.

"In recent days, monks have emerged in a leading role to enforce denial of humanitarian assistance to Muslims, in support of policy statements by politicians," said Chris Lewa, director of the Arakan project, a regional NGO. "A member of a humanitarian agency in Sittwe told me that some monks were posted near Muslim displacement camps, checking on and turning away people they suspected would visit for assistance."

The Young Monks' Association of Sittwe and Mrauk Oo Monks' Association have both released statements in recent days urging locals not to associate with the group. Displaced Rohingya have been housed in over-crowded camps away from the Rakhine population – where a health and malnutrition crisis is said to be escalating – as political leaders move to segregate and expel the 800,000-strong minority from Burma. Earlier this month, Thein Sein attempted to hand over the group to the UN refugee agency.

Aid workers report ongoing threats and interference by local nationalist and religious groups. Some monasteries in Maungdaw and Sittwe sheltering displaced Rakhine people have openly refused to accept international aid, alleging that it is "biased" in favour of the Rohingya. Monks have traditionally played a critical role in helping vulnerable citizens, stepping in to care for the victims of Cyclone Nargis in 2008 after the military junta rejected international assistance.

Many have been shocked by the response of the monks and members of the democracy movement to the recent violence, which erupted after the rape and murder of a Buddhist woman, allegedly by three Muslims, unleashed long-standing ethnic tensions.

Monks' leader Ashin Htawara recently encouraged the government to send the group "back to their native land" at an event in London hosted by the anti-Rohingya Burma Democratic Concern. Ko Ko Gyi, a democracy activist with the 88 Generation Students group and a former political prisoner, said: "The Rohingya are not a Burmese ethnic group. The root cause of the violence"¦ comes from across the border." Mark Farmaner, director of Burma Campaign UK, said: "We were shocked to have [Ashin Htawara] propose to us that there should be what amounts to concentration camps for the Rohingya."

Ms Suu Kyi has also been criticised for failing to speak out. Amal de Chickera of the London-based Equal Rights Trust, said: "You have these moral figures, whose voices do matter. It's extremely disappointing and in the end it can be very damaging."

The Rohingya have lived in Burma for centuries, but in 1982, the then military ruler Ne Win stripped them of their citizenship. Thousands fled to Bangladesh where they live in pitiful camps. Foreign media are still denied access to the conflict region, where a state of emergency was declared last month, and ten aid workers were arrested without explanation.

 

[Bhadra]

It is sad that the Muslim ummah has abandoned the Rohingyas, just because they do not claim Arab descent!

Now Palistani Taliban have owned them. They claim they will attack Myanmar.

 

[Ray]

Buddhist monks are getting very aggressive.

SL and now Burma.

 

[maomao]

India is fast becoming the worlds biggest refugee camp! That too for Islamic people! Hindus are kicked back into pakistan and BD bastards are provided all the papers illegally! Who is responsible for this shyty secular situation and vote bank politics?

P.S: Rohingyas have no place in India and not our problem......If constitution can be amended for empowering Mullahs and Jihadis, then it should be amended for the greater good of the nation!

 

[A chauhan]

India is fast becoming the worlds biggest refugee camp! That too for Islamic people! Hindus are kicked back into pakistan and BD bastards are provided all the papers illegally! Who is responsible for this shyty secular situation and vote bank politics?

P.S: Rohingyas have no place in India and not our problem......If constitution can be amended for empowering Mullahs and Jihadis, then it should be amended for the greater good of the nation!

Yeah ! but if you see the NE borders of India, Myanmar shares one of longest border with India Rohingyas if kicked from Myanmar will definitely come to India we guys are really unfortunate and you know it very well what Congress will do.

 

[Ray]

The black part is where the Rohigya are from.

 

[maomao]

Yeah ! but if you see the NE borders of India, Myanmar share one of longest border with India Rohingyas if kicked from Myanmar will definitely come to India we guys are really unfortunate and you know it very well what Congress will do.

As I had mentioned earlier, that the solution for all what ails this nation lies with decimation of Con party and its con-men send to the gallows! Its ideology reduced to dust! Whole "secular" structure should be revamped, where it does not favor abrahmical imperialism/expansionism and vote bank politics on the cost indigenous faiths! There should be govt. protection and assistance for the people who convert back from foreign religions back to their ancestral faiths!

It's high time to call spade a spade, even if you are termed as communal, RSS, RWE, Bajrag dal by these treacherous leftist/NGOs/seculars! Now is the time to call off this BS, which has been happening in this nation, even after suffering Islamic partition due to skulduggery of Gandhi-Nehru combo!

 

[Bhadra]

Tripura and Manipur will be flooded with Rohyingyas. They will colonise those two states as Bangladesh will kick them out. They can be sent to Pakhtoonkhwa and FATA as Talibans would be amiable to accept them for marriages and labor and human bombs.

 

[natarajan]

These Muslims in Myanmar are not migrants. The are Indian origin people who went to Myanmar during the British and have lived there for generations. Just like Indian origin Hindus and Muslims live in Fiji today or in Suriname in South American. Bangladesh was part of British India at that time.

What we have here is well Muslims like the Jews in the 19th centruy Europe

Here Muslims are getting killed, Muslims who don't have even citizenship rights after being in Myanmar for generations, they form less than 5% of the population of Myanmar and yet the blame is on Muslims that they are some how going to take over Myanmar? In any case, this persecution didn't start suddenly post 9/11. This has been going on since the 1960s. It is a case were the majority ethnc or religous group in this case Buddhists have opressed the minority group which happened to be Muslims. Just like in Sri Lanka the Buddhist majority opressed the Tamil Hindu minority. Or how we have the Hans Chinese opress the Tibetan Buddhist or the Turkistani Muslims among others.

Wasn't that the same thinking that was prevalent in Germany were Jews were considered the root of evil and that they control all money and are freedy. And basically have a cabal like the Elders of Zion forgery of taking over the world. Similar reasons though not to the same extent are used by other illeberal states around the world wether it be the Sinhalese Buddhists in Sri Lanka or the Hans Chinese or the Buddhists in Myanmar.

what about persecution happening is islamic country(country which has majority islam population becomes islamic repulic ) but anyway i condemn such kind of killing as non-muslims should not follow peace of religion people who are doing in their islamic republic countries

 

[Ray]

The history of the Rohingya people is as jumbled as the history of any race.

There is a lot of Myths mingled amidst reality.

Rohingya people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

what about persecution happening is islamic country(country which has majority islam population becomes islamic repulic ) but anyway i condemn such kind of killing as non-muslims should not follow peace of religion people who are doing in their islamic republic countries

Wherever Muslims have been in majority, they have not been very amicable to the minorities.

That is why there is this fear of being 'swamped' and hence atrocities done to Muslims (where they are the minority) does not find the outcry that is there for any other race against whom atrocities are done.

Sad, but true.

 

[natarajan]

They are doing what they did in srilanka ,even indian fishermen are not spared.Tamil immigrants are in camps surrounded by thorn fence and its not easy to mingle with indians .But in bangladesh case its different as they 2 crore got citizenship itself and if they are going allow these myanmar people also ,surely they will create problem like assam but our congress wants vote bank nothing than it.But they have to realize they will be elected only where they are not majority but once they reach more 50 % population they will bring hurriyat like party to power like in kashmir where you cannot find single minority occupying any posts or any media covering condition of minority in kashmir like they do for Rest of India

 

[Predator]

Delhi plays reluctant host to Myanmar's nowhere people - Times Of India

About 620 Rohingya families hit the headlines in Delhi in April when they landed up unannounced in tony Vasant Vihar's UNHCR office to demand refugee status.

"We came to India because it is the land of 'raham-karam' (mercy and fate/ providence)," says Hamza.

The Rohingyas live across India from Jammu to Hyderabad, from Uttarkhand's Bagwari to Jaipur, in pockets in Jalalabad, Baghpat and Muzaffarnagar. These are the main places from where the 620 families came to Delhi, says Hamza, each city having its own loose network of "Burmese refugees".

VHP writes to PM, UN asks to Deport Jehadi Rohingya Muslims from Delhi to Bangladesh | Vishwa Samvada Kendra

Here is Dr Praven Togadia's letter to the Hon. Prime Minister of India that is Bharat with a copy to the Secretary General of the UN, Head of United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, India's Home Minister & External Affairs Minister, Hon. President of India, President Vladimir Putin – Russia, President Obama – US and the Hon Chief Justice of Hon Supreme Court of India.

Dr Pravin Togadia, VHP Chief

It is about the Rohingya Muslims infiltrated in India & straight now parking themselves in front of the UNHCR office & in nearby Mosques demanding Refugee status. These Rohingya Muslims have proven Jehadi Terror links as per the other attached documents as Appendix (total 4). The same Rohingya Muslims did massacre & ethnic cleansing of Buddhists recently in their area that is Arakan between Bangla Desh & Myanmar for demanding separate Islamic state. Some Buddhists like Chakma tribe who survived there, are now in Tripura of India. Rohingyas are projecting themselves as victims, however, there is a current alert about their Jehadi terror links with LET, ISI, Al Qaeda, HUJI, IM & others related to Agfhan Taliban who fought with Russia & also the groups in Kashmir.
The Rohingya Muslims, helped by some Govt of India's committee members like Nawab Zafar Jung (Ex VC of Jamia Milia University) & leftist students union of JNU are lobbying with the UN & UNHCR for Refugee status. If that happens, then India will have to bear the load of over 40+ Lakh (4 Million) Rohingya Muslims making India's safety & security more fragile. Therefore, my letter to the PM & others to immediately deport Rohingya Muslims & prevent the UNHCR from giving them refugee status, prosecuting all those who helped them infiltrate in India now & reach straight to Delhi & all those who are sheltering them & doing their PR. It also will damage India's relations with all Buddhists nations as well as with America & Russia as they all have suffered due to Rohingya Muslims; Jehadi terror. Thailand still has a blanket ban on them.
Kindly help protect the world & India by spreading this as much & urging the PM of India, heads of other nations & the UN, UNHCR as mentioned. Dhanyavaad & regards. Let us together make a difference, says Dr Pravin Togadia



From Dr Pravin Togadia,

International Working President, Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP),

Sankatmochan, Sector 6, R. K. Puram, New Delhi – 110020

Date: May 14, 2012

URGENT LETTER TO THE HON. PRIME MINISTER, INDIA THAT IS BHARAT

Shri Manmohan ji Singh,

Hon. Prime Minister,

Govt of India

New Delhi

Subject: Infiltrators named 'Rohingya Muslims' from Bangla Desh in Delhi demanding refugee status from the United Nations (UN) through United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) office in Delhi.

Reference: Information from various authentic sources & complaints that we received from the residents of the related areas in New Delhi and attached appendix (total 4) about terror links of Rohingya Muslims.

Dear Sir,

Jai Shreeram. With reference to the above, I hereby wish to draw your attention to the following extremely urgent issues related to India's safety & security:

1. Approximately 3000+ Rohingya Muslims infiltrated from Bangla Desh border & reached up to India's capital New Delhi have parked themselves – men, women, children etc. – in various areas in & around New Delhi. Before we get into the basic question that how such a large number of infiltrating groups could even enter India's border & reach nation's capital, I wish to inform you that this large group of Rohingya Muslims has been creating danger & dirt for the residents of New Delhi especially near the UNHCR office in Vasant Vihar, demanding Refugee Status from the UN.
2. After much complaining & our peaceful intervention, these Rohingya Muslims have been now sheltered in the Mosques in the villages near Vasant Vihar area of New Delhi where the UNHCR office is located. They have been sheltered there by the Ex Vice Chancellor of Jamia Milia Islamic University Mr. Nawab Zafar Jung who also happens to be now a sitting member of the Government of India's Monitoring Committee for Minority Education.
3. Holding a Govt post & yet helping the illegal infiltrators not only reach New Delhi all the way from the Bangla Desh – Myanmar border, but also sheltering them in the mosques nearby despite complaints by the local residents, is a completely anti-national activity by a Govt Committee member.
4. For your ready reference: Rohingya Muslims is the community that is born of Burmese (Myanmar) mothers & Bangla Desh Muslim Fathers & the community follows Islam. Staying in Arakan area at the border of Bangla Desh & Myanmar, they are internationally known for the massacres & ethnic cleansing of Buddhists (Chakma Buddhists & others) that Rohingya Muslims did just 10-15 years back.
5. Some of the survived Buddhists are still staying in the worse human conditions in India that is Bharat in Tripura & surrounding areas. Rohingyas are also known for killing thousands of people from Jumma Tribe in their area.

1. Rohingya Muslims, the way they have suddenly popped up in New Delhi with the help of local Muslims in Bharat, also tried to infiltrate Thailand & create terror there. Thailand has therefore banned the entry of Rohingya Muslims. (Reference: Attached Appendix)

1. More so, as the said Rohingya Muslims have a track record of Jehadi Terrorism, not just in their own area that is a Arakan at Bangla Desh – Myanmar border, but also in Afghanistan, on Russia Border, Thailand & Saudi Arabia etc. (Please refer to the attached Appendix Number 1: Bin Laden & Rohingya Muslims – Weekly Blitz, Appendix 2: Paper – Suicide Jihadi Terrorism in Bangla Desh- by Shri B. Raman, Additional Secretary (Retd.), Cabinet Secretariat, Govt of India & Director, Institute for Tropical Studies, Chennai & other attached documents)

1. The above documents by the authentic sources clearly prove that the Rohingya Muslims are directly involved in Jehadi Terror activities independently & also through their Terror outfit RSO (Rohingya Solidarity Organization). The above documents mentioned in my point number 7 also prove in no uncertain terms the serious links of Rohingya Muslims with HUJI, Al Qaeda, ISI, LET & other Jehadi operatives in Pakistan, Bangla Desh, Afghanistan & more importantly, in Jammu & Kashmir.

1. American Govt has issued a serious Jehadi Threat alert about the Rohingya Muslim community recently & also declared them terrorists since they fought hand in hand with Talibans in Afghanistan on the border of Russia during Afghanistan – Russia war. (Apart from the above ref documents: See Appendix 3: Bangla Desh- Breeding Ground for Terror – Asia Times printed interview of American Govt & Military officials – CNN) This clearly mentions specific Rohingya Muslims as Jehadi terror group having links with most Jehadi operatives for current & active Jehad.

10. There are over 40+ Lakh (4 Million) Rohingya Muslims in the world. They are spread as follows:

a) Burma : 20 Lakh (2 M)

b) Bangla Desh : 6 Lakhs (0.6 M)

c) Pakistan: 3.5 Lakh (0.35 M)

d) Saudi Arabia: 4 Lakh (0.4 M)

e) Thailand: 1 Lakh (0.1 M)

11. Rohingya Muslims' mother country Myanmar, with the new democratic rule there now, has asked them to get out due to their Jehadi activities & mainly because of their war against Myanmar for creating a separate Islamic State – Arakan.

1. 12. After using Rohingya Muslims for spreading Jehadi terror all over the world, in Myanmar & in Bharat, now Bangla Desh has realized that globally Rohingya Muslims are now exposed in Jehadi Terror & creating a separate state dividing Bangla Desh, now their father's country Bangla Desh also is chasing them out.

1. 13. After trying to settle in Thailand etc & being shunned everywhere because of Jehadi Terror links, now the Rohingya Muslims have fixed their eyes on India that is Bharat. Therefore, over 3000+ of them have parked themselves in & around capital New Delhi demanding Refugee Status by the UN.

14. With men, women, children (2 women even delivered kids in Delhi recently!), these Rohingya Muslims are now playing a diplomatic Jehadi war against Bharat by pushing the UN to give them Refugee status. This means that Bharat will never be then able to ask them to leave Bharat irrespective of their Jehadi Terror links or activities. At this moment only 3000+ Rohingya Muslims are seen in Delhi, but the way they entered Bharat all the way from Bangla Desh border, proves that they have strong support from either the Jehadi groups in Bharat or/ and by the Govts. Otherwise without any interruption, such a large group of infiltrators known for Jehad would have never reached New Delhi. And after reaching there, would not have been sheltered, supported & lobbied for by the Govt committee member.

15. The Rohingya Muslims, well taken care of by such groups & a few students unions in Delhi have been doing international Public Relations & lobbying projecting them as 'victims' of bangle Desh's tyranny & therefore getting Refugee Status to force Govt of India to give them shelter, food, education, jobs & then citizenship to their kids. At this moment, even though only 3000+ are seen in Delhi, they either may be hiding all over India or waiting to hoard immediately in India once they get the Refugee status.

16. As the Rohingya Muslims are responsible for the massacre & ethnic cleansing of the peace loving Buddhists like Chakma Buddhists etc in the Arakan area near India border, any effort of Govt of India to help Rohingya Muslims will permanently spoil Indi's relations with all Buddhists & Buddhist nations hurting over 100 Crore (1000 Million) Buddhists & more than that Hindus globally & in India!

Our Urgent Demands:



1. Rohingya Muslims are known & proven Jehadi Terrorists condemned by & currently alerted about by the American & European Govts, Russian Govt & by the international terrorism research groups & institutions. Sheltering them in India means sheltering Jehadi Terror. We demand that the Govt of India immediately deport them from where they came without any further delay.
2. There should be a blanket ban on the entry of the Rohingya Muslims into India from any border or by any means.
3. Govt of India should write to the United Nations & to UNHCR (United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees) in New York & in New Delhi NOT to give them any status (Refugee, Asylum Seeker or any such) ever.
4. As Rohingya Muslims are directly involved in the HUJI, IM, Pakistan's ISI & other such Jehadi linked terror in Jammu & Kashmir as well as on the borders, those who helped them enter India, travel through various Indian states up till Delhi, gave them shelter & other help should immediately prosecuted for Treason & under all prevailing anti Terror laws.

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1. Once it is found out exactly who are the people & institutions have been helping Jehadi Terror Group Rohingya Muslims, in India, such institutions should be banned & people running them should be prosecuted.
2. India that is Bharat already has been facing various Jehadi terror threats. Despite international terror alert about Rohingya Muslims, if Govt of India does not take immediate actions against them, then this would clearly mean a political decision to support Jehadi terror group. This will put Bharat's safety & security in danger.
3. Considering the relations of India with America & Russia, sheltering the Rohingya Muslims despite these countries warning about them will permanently spoil India's diplomatic relations with them. Therefore, Govt of India should take help from America & Russia to prevail on the UN for not giving Refugee status to Rohingya Muslims.
4. This is an urgent matter as the Rohingya Muslims have been bragging that on May 15, 2012 they will get the Refugee status by the UN. Therefore, if the Govt of India is truly serious about the war against terror as it keeps on saying on various forums, then leaving aside the slow Govt processes, every step should be taken to stop the UN from giving Refugee status to the Rohingya Muslims as it will not only harm the majority of Bharat but will lead to the second partition as well as destruction of resources of Bharat with over 40 Lakh (4 Million) Rohingya Muslims putting their additional load on India with their Jehadi terror links!

Dhanyavaad & hoping for a quick & concrete action against Rohingya Muslims

Sincerely

Dr Pravin Togadia

Copy to:

1. The Secretary General, United Nations, New York, USA
2. The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees – HO, New York
3. The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees – New Delhi
4. The Hon. President – India
5. The Home Minister, Govt of India
6. The External Affairs Minister, Govt of India
7. President, Russia
8. President, United State of America
9. The Hon. Chief Justice, Hon. Supreme Court of India

Attached Appendix:

1. Bin Laden & Rohingya Muslims – Weekly Blitz
2. Paper – Suicide Jihadi Terrorism in Bangla Desh- by Shri B. Raman, Additional Secretary (Retd.), Cabinet Secretariat, Govt of India & Director, Institute for Tropical Studies, Chennai
3. Bangla Desh- Breeding Ground for Terror – Asia Times printed interview of American Govt & Military officials – CNN
4. 4. Rohingya Terrorism: Terrorism Monitor – Volume 6, Issue 10.

 

[Dovah]

"We came to India because it is the land of 'raham-karam' (mercy and fate/ providence)," says Hamza.

 

[Bangalorean]

"We came to India because it is the land of 'raham-karam' (mercy and fate/ providence)," says Hamza.

Go back, you were misinformed. You also have the choice of moving on to Pakisatan, or to Bangladesh.