Combat Aircraft technology and Evolution

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  1. Defcon 1

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    Starting a new thread to act as the air force equivalent of "MBT and armor technology" thread for general discussion related to combat aircraft.

    I have a question, In the India pakistan scenario, where the ground based radars have excellent coverage all over the airspace, do the passive detection technologies such as IRST and RWR still hold any significance? Considering that one's aircraft will be detected by the enemy regardless of whether it switches on its radar or not? Thanks.
     
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    Various designs sent by US defence companies in response RFI sent for the ATF(Advanced Tactical fighter) program, which resulted in the birth of F22 Raptor.

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    Mods please this thread sticky. Thanks
     
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    @Kunal Biswas @p2prada @Austin

    Hi, Do you guys know if any upgrade of HMD system of Mig29 was performed in Mig29UPG upgrade? Do you have any informational source on that which can explain the upgrades in deep? Thanks
     
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  5. Kunal Biswas

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    Some information >>

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    2:36 and watch the pilot use the reticle to point the seeker head.
     
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    It is only an upgrade of the first HMS system. No HMD.

    Shchel-3UM-1.

    Before that it was Shchel-3UM on Mig-29A.

    Igor had posted the upgrade list on his blog. Kunal posted it.
     
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    A noob question... Why doesn't aircrafts have a tail mounted CIWS for defense against VSHORADS & SHORADS? Is it only due to size and weight?

    Ilyushin Il-102 had a similar thing...

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    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    Its a tail gunner, the philosophy of shooting down aircraft from WW2, IAF IL-76 dont have a tail gunner..
     
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    Topsight HMD is being used in IN MIG-29K. Same was supposed to be fitted to upgraded MIG-29s of IAF
     
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    arnabmit Homo Communis Indus Senior Member

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    Sir, the pic is of IL-102, not IL-76.

    My question is what stops aircrafts to have an automated tail mounted CIWS for defense against VSHORADS & SHORADS?

     
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    Both Air crafts So does many other Soviet Origin even B-52 have this Philosophy which is no longer present in new generation bomber and transport..

    Israeli are working on some thing similar but its more like Iron fist APS on helicopter, About cannon ( CIWS ) on aircraft, SAMs are too small and fast so does more felxiable, Adding a good cannon based CIWS also increase weight..

     
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    Off topic: Aircraft junkies on this forum seem to be jealous of us tankies.

    Anyway, can somebody post information on the MiG-19?

    I always thought that the Farmer was underrated.

    And perhaps the Focke-Wulf aircrafts during WW2?

    I have a pretty nice book on 20th century aircrafts, I'll see what I can scan from it tomorrow.
     
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    The B-52 Gunners


     
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    And Germans - FW (WW2):
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