CIA made doctors torture suspected terrorists after 9/11

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    CIA made doctors torture suspected terrorists after 9/11, taskforce finds | World news | The Guardian

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    Torturing Terrorists, how sad..

    These each and every expects sympathy.
     
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    The terrorists are being given their own medicine?
     
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    1. A substantial number of torture victims at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo were later found to be innocent.
    2. The main charge in the article is that the US was forcing doctors to violate the Hippocratic Oath.
     
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    Consider the source. OSF is George Soros. No doubt conclusions were determined in advance.
     
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    Suspected.

    I have no problem with torture once proved that one is terrorist but not otherwise.
     
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    1. A substantial number of Gitmo detainees show up in AQ operations after release.

    2. The doctors made a choice, I believe, and could have refused by requesting transfers.
     
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    ...perhaps the same concern should be extended to the Tibetans and the Uighur, who are treated similarly!
     
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    Cry me a river
     
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    It is all very well to say "Doctors ignored their code of ethics" in a news item. But guess what? Doctors are not taught about torture and anything about torture is better known to others without a doctor's advice being required. So what sort of work did these doctors do? I mean a doctor can do damage that is serious. A surgeon can deliberately tie off a blood vessel that can lead to disability and death or simply cock up an operation on the intestines or brain. But in every case one is taking a man who is well and making him sick or leaving him at death's door So what sort of sicknesses were created by those doctors? It should be easy or another doctor to figure that out - so are there any medical records of these Al Qaeda types being examined by other doctors to state what was done?

    It is different if live people were taken and kidneys and eyes harvested and sold for transplantation. That occurs in a lot of countries. So what did these CIA doctors do.. The whole story sounds like a Pakistani coming out of Gitmo and saying "Bad things happened". After that everyone and his uncle are cursing jailers for doing "bad things" while no one is asking exactly what "Bad things" means?
     
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    Just FYI...

    Guantanamo's Uighur detainees ask Supreme Court to free them

    Published: June 5, 2009

    By Carol Rosenberg — The Miami Herald

    Attorneys for 17 Muslims from China locked up inside a prison camp at Guantanamo asked the U.S. Supreme Court Friday to take on the case of the men whom a judge ordered set free eight months ago.

    "The historic role of the Judicial Branch is todemand the release of prisoners precisely when the political branches find release inconvenient," the 16-page appeal said.

    Ignoring the case of the Uighurs, men from a Muslim minority in China who won a lawsuit in a lower court, would signify "a hobbled judiciary," they argued.

    The appeal comes at a time of tension surrounding the case of the Uighurs, 17 men whom China brands terrorists from an Islamic separatist movement in Xinjiang province.

    At Guantánamo Monday, several of them staged a brief poster-board protest inside their half-acre fence- and barbed-wire enclosed compound, Camp Iguana, while journalists inspected the lockup.

    In self-taught, broken prison-camp English, they asked to be freed, likened democracy to communism and branded the United States a "double Hetler," an apparent reference to the Nazi leader Adolf Hitler.

    The Uighurs are approaching their eighth year in U.S. detention. Pakistani and Afghan allies turned them over to U.S. troops during their 2001 invasion of Afghanistan. They were sent to Guantánamo as suspected al-Qaeda trainees and sympathizers.

    Five were cleared by 2006 and sent to Albania because the State Department concluded that China would persecute them in their homeland.
     
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