CIA agent trying to recruit Russian officer detained in Moscow: FSB

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    CIA agent trying to recruit Russian intelligence officer detained in Moscow - FSB

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    Source: Cloak, dagger and a blond wig? CIA agent nabbed in Moscow – FSB — RT News

    Oops. :lol:
     
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    Re: CIA agent trying to recruit Russian officer detained in Moscow: FS

    Nothing in the article provides information about this "operative", nor, apparently did the "CIA agent" actually meet with anyone.

    The sum of FSB case is this.

    Of course they can expel him, but as a court case it would go nowhere.

    It's a game, apparently with no consequences except embarrassment.:rolleyes:
     
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    Send him to Siberia to work in some mine ...
     
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    They will expel him. We will expel one of theirs. It's the game.
     
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    The CIA agent is not even using USD but Euro what a traitor :rofl:
     
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    Probably he was contacting his recruit or it was a dead drop ..... he seems to have some basic stuff to disguise and some electronics gadget.

    Catching an Professional Agent in an act is very difficult and he needs to be trapped in doing so , as is shown in this episode and the Russian case of 10 deep sleepers caught.
     
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    Re: CIA agent trying to recruit Russian officer detained in Moscow: FS

    http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...ruit-russian-officer-detained-moscow-fsb.html

    Just posting FYI...
     
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    It is normal behavior of Russia, USA, China Israel to recruit agents in other countries, something seems real fishy about all of this, nothing is ever put in writing or do agents wear disguises.

    Many Western observers, however, have questioned if Fogle could really be an officer of the Central Intelligence Agency, and whether the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) simply framed an unsuspecting junior American diplomat. Much of the skepticism expressed by Western commentators focuses on the articles that were allegedly found by the FSB in Fogle’s backpack. They included several pairs of sunglasses, recording devices, as well as two wigs. Would a CIA officer be foolish enough to be carrying with him surreptitious recording devices in downtown Moscow? And do modern case officers still employ wigs when walking the streets of foreign capitals recruiting spies? The answer is, of course, yes.

    As with everything else, technological advancement has had a direct impact on numerous practical aspects of espionage. But many traditional features of spy trade craft remain intact in the 21st century. They include the use of intuition, good driving skills, compasses, radio receivers or transmitters, and, yes, even wigs, as well as fake beards and mustaches. The latter, in association with the regular use of different hats, shirts, jackets or coats, are often invaluable in enabling case officers avoid detection and surveillance. This applies especially to intelligence case officers attached to embassies, as their residences and places of work are almost constantly under surveillance by native counterintelligence agencies. This is the reason why ‘dry-cleaning’ —detecting and evading surveillance— is among the first sets of skills instilled on fresh intelligence recruits destined for hands-on clandestine work.

    Does this mean that Ryan Fogle should have been carrying with him the bizarre collection of spy paraphernalia that was allegedly found in his possession? It depends on the type of operation he was involved in when he was arrested, as well as on his personal approach to spy craft. Like all government agencies involved in intelligence operations, the CIA has standard operating procedures that must be followed for all clandestine work. But, aside from the basics of espionage, which are instilled on case officers during training, there is plenty of wiggle room for an individual case officer’s personality and experience to come through in their work. There are probably as many approaches to recruiting spies as there are case officers, and nobody at the Agency is going to go over a case officer’s backpack to see what they are carrying with them when preparing to step out into the night for a meeting with a potential asset.

    Fogle, in particular, might have been careless, desperate, or simply inexperienced. In any case, it seems that he was a relatively junior CIA operative, and that the Russian FSB did not view his alleged recruitment activities as a serious threat. If they did, chances are that Fogle would have never known that he was being trailed on Monday night. The FSB would have simply allowed him to believe he had successfully recruited his target, and would have enjoyed pocketing the CIA’s money while gaining a valuable insight into the Agency’s modus operandi and feeding Washington deliberately false information. The very fact that Fogle was stopped so publicly, shows that the whole incident was meant for domestic consumption and to taunt the Americans. The staff at the CIA station in Moscow will probably roll their eyes, spend the weekend assessing the damage caused by Fogle’s arrest and expulsion, and get back to work on Monday. For them, it’s just another week in spy world.
    http://intelnews.org/2013/05/16/01-1260/

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sHbx1EWtZ6Y
     
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    Re: CIA agent trying to recruit Russian officer detained in Moscow: FS

    It's possible that the incident was for public consumption. But it seems at least four CIA agents were nabbed over the past 2 years, trying to recruit officers from various Russian intelligence agencies. Also it is quite possible the Russians already have agents in the US intelligence Community, maybe that's why they weren't very keen on allowing this recruitment to happen.

    Anyway,

    FSB: CIA crossed ‘red line’ with agent Fogle

    FSB: CIA crossed ‘red line’ with agent Fogle — RT News
     
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    From what I know of the subject and that is considerable, this entire episode is weird. Every Russian, USA, Chinese and most other couintries have intelligence officers trying to turn citizens of the countries they are located in for information, poltical, scientific and military . I expect this has more do do with the USA arresting ten Russians for spying then about anything else.


    The FBI has arrested 10 people who allegedly spied for Russia for up to a decade - posing as innocent civilians while trying to infiltrate U.S. policymaking circles and learn about U.S. weapons, diplomatic strategy and political developments

    http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-202_162-6627393.html

    Tretyakov, who defected in 2000, claimed in a 2008 book that his agents helped the Russian government steal nearly $500 million from the U.N.'s oil-for-food program in Iraq before the fall of Saddam Hussein. He said he oversaw an operation that helped Saddam's regime manipulate the price of Iraqi oil sold under the program and allowed Russia to skim profits.

    Russian sounds like a prostitute screaming she has been raped because she was not paid.
     
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    Re: CIA agent trying to recruit Russian officer detained in Moscow: FS

    Several intel techniques are linked in this article:

    Tradecraft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    Now that's funny.
     
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    Re: CIA agent trying to recruit Russian officer detained in Moscow: FS

    When Russia offers its hand in friendship, the natural American response is to try ripping its arm off
     
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    Russia has not changed since Lenin.

    “Lenin put it another way, often saying that capitalist dupes 'will
    sell us the rope with which to hang them.' He called them 'the useful
    idiots.'”

    http://hnn.us/articles/122.html
     

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